OFFICIAL Esan Marsters [Discussion]

[Nelson]

I'm sure he'll have his moments like most youngsters, but he has a lot of upside, he's mobile with good footwork and has a nice offload in his game. Getting up to speed with defence in FG will be his big test IMO.

His defence was rubbish in NYC so it's definitely going to be an issue in first grade.

 

[sideline_eye]

He's listed as being 110 kegs, so he's a solid package and he'll get stronger as he matures. A real keeper if ever I've seen one.

 

[tigerap]

If Chris Lawrence is not a good mentor, then I struggle to name someone else who meets his standing.

Lawrence is a top bloke and was a tremendous centre, but he's never been much more than a replacement level second rower.
Hoffman was close to, if not the best second rower in the world at his peak. He'd know exactly what special efforts are required to get there - extra cardio and/or strength work, eating better, mental preparation, whatever.
The coaching staff will definitely help, but you need to do a bit extra if you want to be the very best. Especially if our facilities are as inferior to others as reported.

Remember the story about Blair doing extra work when he was here?
http://www.weststigersforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=25437

I mentioned Lawrence specifically for his knowledge/qualification in the areas you highlighted, not withstanding their respective playing abilities as second rowers, but he also represented his country before his hip/hamstring complications.

Also it's a mistake to assume that better players make better coaches / mentors, if that was the implication Lawrence vs Hoffman. Trent Robinson wasn't much of a footballer, good coach though.

Anyone with the number of brown paper bags that Robinson has would be a good coach

 

[Milky]

I hope he can build his minutes this season…If he can get to 80 mins, next year we will have Marsters/McQueen backrow with both playing a fullgame. Gives our props the ability to get some refreshers.

 

[ricksen]

I think Luke Lewis would be the ideal mentor for both Esan Marsters and Chris Lawrence…I would sign him over Hoffman for 2 Years...

Agree with that. I assume he'll re-sign with the Sharks, but who knows.

 

[TIGER]

Give him the centre position for the rest of the season, he has to be better than MCK.

 

[krayola]

How'd they go today?

I only saw the first half. Thought Lolo kinda disappeared after 20 minutes. Did he reappear in the second half?

Marsters and Felise only came on around 30 mins from what I could tell. They do much in the second? I think there's a lot of potential with those two.

 

[Guest]

Lolohea was quiet after a bright start. Needs to take more kicking responsibility because JLJ wouldn't threaten an under 8's team with his kicking. Felise was ok in limited minutes and Marsters looks alright out there, decent footwork and shows some ticker.

 

[king_sirro]

Felise was terrible defensively. Really disapointed in him. I had high hopes but startimg to fear he hasn't got it. Tim Grant was our best middle player.

Marsters had decent game time but limited opportunities on the right. He has a nice right foot step that i think will cause teams problems once we can go forward and have decent halves.

Lolo is not a half at all. He needs to be fullback and just run.

 

[Tiger_Watto]

Felise was terrible defensively. Really disapointed in him. I had high hopes but startimg to fear he hasn't got it. Tim Grant was our best middle player.

Marsters had decent game time but limited opportunities on the right. He has a nice right foot step that i think will cause teams problems once we can go forward and have decent halves.

Lolo is not a half at all. He needs to be fullback and just run.

JJ was very lazy yesterday on more than one occasion… He looks like a structured player in attack, but that doesnt excuse him from tightening up his defense and remaining focused.

Cleary needs to smash him at training to get him re-focused!

 

[krayola]

thanks for the info boys

 

[cqtiger]

Lewis going to - guess who? The roosters.
Apparently Sharks not offering what Lewis wants so talk he is going to a club that can afford him, lol.

There really needs to be some changes to TPA rules. It's really a mockery.

 

[851]

Lewis going to - guess who? The roosters.
Apparently Sharks not offering what Lewis wants so talk he is going to a club that can afford him, lol.

There really needs to be some changes to TPA rules. It's really a mockery.

They will have to sack SKD or pay him out, so that cap will have to be pretty full

 

[InBenjiWeTrust]

Lolohea had excellent start, than that short kick to cheerleaders, and than that dropped ball within 10 m.
Looks like confidence player, hopefully it will a different story when he is paired with Brooks.

 

[tigerap]

Yeah Felise is not living up to his 2016 form…
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Its sad that most of our U20 stars have turned out to be duds at NRL level....

 

[WT2K]

Played 49 minutes vs the chooks

 

[tig_prmz]

he had a great game. thought he was our best with the ball tbh

 

[magpiecol]

Felise was terrible defensively. Really disapointed in him. I had high hopes but startimg to fear he hasn't got it. Tim Grant was our best middle player.

Marsters had decent game time but limited opportunities on the right. He has a nice right foot step that i think will cause teams problems once we can go forward and have decent halves.

Lolo is not a half at all. He needs to be fullback and just run.

:righton:

 

[WT2K]

Felise was terrible defensively. Really disapointed in him. I had high hopes but startimg to fear he hasn't got it. Tim Grant was our best middle player.

Marsters had decent game time but limited opportunities on the right. He has a nice right foot step that i think will cause teams problems once we can go forward and have decent halves.

Lolo is not a half at all. He needs to be fullback and just run.

Good summary

 

[Tigers17]

The problem with Felise, and I always thought it was obvious is that he his just SOFT.
And that ain't gunna be fixed. Good junior, big kid playing against smaller kids. Straight out of the Seumanufagai mould, lumbers up with the ball as casual as you like, never breaks the line, never get an off load away.
I always thought Tatola was the better prospect after watching the Junior Kangaroos play last year, far more mongrel.
I know somebody was stupid enough to resign Felise last year, where are you JT.
Ivan has got to do the right thing by everyone here including Felise, and let him know, he's not going to play in the NRL side in 2018 and is free to start looking at alternatives options.