OFFICIAL Esan Marsters [Discussion]

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The problem with Felise, and I always thought it was obvious is that he his just SOFT.
And that ain't gunna be fixed. Good junior, big kid playing against smaller kids. Straight out of the Seumanufagai mould, lumbers up with the ball as casual as you like, never breaks the line, never get an off load away.
I always thought Tatola was the better prospect after watching the Junior Kangaroos play last year, far more mongrel.
I know somebody was stupid enough to resign Felise last year, where are you JT.
Ivan has got to do the right thing by everyone here including Felise, and let him know, he's not going to play in the NRL side in 2018 and is free to start looking at alternatives options.
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He didn't play like you are suggesting in the games he played last year in the NRL or are you not counting those games. Didn't look soft to me. Hard to be a big tough guy pushing forward with a bunch of pillows playing with you.
 
Ivan should buy Tui a new pair of runners and tell him that he wants the soles worn out by the end of the season. Tui needs to get his aerobic conditioning up to scratch - that can only be done pounding the bitumen or even 30 minutes on a rowing ergo machine.

Tui needs to get fit.
 
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Ivan should buy Tui a new pair of runners and tell him that he wants the soles worn out by the end of the season. Tui needs to get his aerobic conditioning up to scratch - that can only be done pounding the bitumen or even 30 minutes on a rowing ergo machine.

Tui needs to get fit.
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Warriors' supporters were suggesting Kearney wanted him to put on some size. Regardless, he demonstrated enough on Saturday to suggest he will bring that x factor which we need.
 
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Felise was terrible defensively. Really disapointed in him. I had high hopes but startimg to fear he hasn't got it. Tim Grant was our best middle player.

Marsters had decent game time but limited opportunities on the right. He has a nice right foot step that i think will cause teams problems once we can go forward and have decent halves.

Lolo is not a half at all. He needs to be fullback and just run.
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What makes you say Lolohea is not a half at all..I think you need to expand on that…I was not a great fan of his but given he's only been here a couple of weeks ..he has exceeded my expectations ...especially in defence...massive upgrade on Moses in the front line...in attack he is not an organiser he's a runner and watching him against the Dragons and Roosters I can see a twinge of Benji in him in that he doesn't know exactly what he is going to do let alone the players around him but again only been here a couple of weeks and hasn't played with Brooks yet..

I agree on Marsters he looks capable whenever the ball comes his way attracts a lot of defenders but could have caught a cold at times in the 2nd half...

Felise just seemed to get lost as well bar a couple of good charges ..his effort upon effort in defence is also a worry...
 
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Felise was terrible defensively. Really disapointed in him. I had high hopes but startimg to fear he hasn't got it. Tim Grant was our best middle player.

Marsters had decent game time but limited opportunities on the right. He has a nice right foot step that i think will cause teams problems once we can go forward and have decent halves.

Lolo is not a half at all. He needs to be fullback and just run.

What makes you say Lolohea is not a half at all..I think you need to expand on that…I was not a great fan of his but given he's only been here a couple of weeks ..he has exceeded my expectations ...especially in defence...massive upgrade on Moses in the front line...in attack he is not an organiser he's a runner and watching him against the Dragons and Roosters I can see a twinge of Benji in him in that he doesn't know exactly what he is going to do let alone the players around him but again only been here a couple of weeks and hasn't played with Brooks yet..

I agree on Marsters he looks capable whenever the ball comes his way attracts a lot of defenders but could have caught a cold at times in the 2nd half...

Felise just seemed to get lost as well bar a couple of good charges ..his effort upon effort in defence is also a worry...
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Ok saying "not at all" may be a bit harsh. The reason i say he isn't a half is this….he looks to me that he's a player that would do better the less he thinks. Simple role, run and run and the passes will naturally flow from that. In the halves its easier said then done to focus on running first. Thats my gut feeling on him, less organising the better.
 
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The problem with Felise, and I always thought it was obvious is that he his just SOFT.
And that ain't gunna be fixed. Good junior, big kid playing against smaller kids. Straight out of the Seumanufagai mould, lumbers up with the ball as casual as you like, never breaks the line, never get an off load away.
I always thought Tatola was the better prospect after watching the Junior Kangaroos play last year, far more mongrel.
I know somebody was stupid enough to resign Felise last year, where are you JT.
Ivan has got to do the right thing by everyone here including Felise, and let him know, he's not going to play in the NRL side in 2018 and is free to start looking at alternatives options.
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You might be right, but Felise has been promoted by two separate FG coaches and Tatola has not.
 
What is his position?

From what I have seen he doesn't look out of place in the centres, but be could also be anything in the backrow…

At this stage I would be looking at a Marsters/Suli centre combination for next season, but in saying that we also have Milne joining the club.

Nice to finally see some competition for spots.
 
Would be a super utility player of the bench, I don't think we should carry two hookers next year with the roster we have..Masters is versatile enough to slip in anywhere.
 
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What is his position?

From what I have seen he doesn't look out of place in the centres, but be could also be anything in the backrow…

At this stage I would be looking at a Marsters/Suli centre combination for next season, but in saying that we also have Milne joining the club.

Nice to finally see some competition for spots.
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If Rona joins the club, he might also end up in the centres potentially…
 
Had a great game yesterday, and I can only see improvement at Centre for now. Will more than likely end up in the Backrow, but that is 2 years off in my view. I think once a decision is made to switch him to Backrow, he should be given the right preparation of a full off-season before moving him.

Milne doesnt deserve a walk-up start for 2018… We need to make him earn it!
 
We've been calling for him to get a chance and when he did, he made the most of it.
Im a fan.
 
Ultimately he doesn't have the pace to play centre but he can do a decent job there as he's solid defensively and can be a handful running the ball. We don't have any impact back rowers so he could be one off the bench. Another off season will do him the world of good.
 
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Had a great game yesterday, and I can only see improvement at Centre for now. Will more than likely end up in the Backrow, but that is 2 years off in my view. I think once a decision is made to switch him to Backrow, he should be given the right preparation of a full off-season before moving him.

Milne doesnt deserve a walk-up start for 2018… We need to make him earn it!
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Yeah, not sure what Ivan's plans are though, if he's desperate to shore up the second row now he may bring him on early. With McQueen as an unknown quantity following his surgery and Lawrence seemingly always injured we're quite lean on competitive second rowers. We don't even know if ET is going to take up his option.

Ivan seems a patient man, he may wait it out with Esan, but who knows.
 
I have been impressed with his development this year. Great when a young player is given a chance and takes it with both hands.

If we do not secure Rona and Kevin moves on why can't we go for a backline of

Lolohea
Nofoaluma
Marsters
Suli
Milne
Reynolds
Brooks

The backline might lack some pace but it would have some size about them and would help our forwards out from kick returns.

Happy for Marsters to play off the bench as I don't believe we should have a hooker on the bench.

As other Forum members have pointed out McQueen has undergone a serious neck operation and Lawrence has lost time through injuries so we may require Aloiai, Marsters, MCK to play second rower during the season. There is talk Taylor may sign with the Warriors.

Bench in 2018

Twal (prop and lock rotation)
Sue/Grant (prop rotation)
Aloiai (prop and second row rotation)
Marsters (backs and forwards)

Additional players

Michael Chee Kam (played well on the weekend)
J J Felise
Matt McIlwrick (if LIddle wins the hooker battle for 2018)
 
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