OFFICIAL Esan Marsters [Discussion]

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I have been impressed with his development this year. Great when a young player is given a chance and takes it with both hands.

If we do not secure Rona and Kevin moves on why can't we go for a backline of

Lolohea
Nofoaluma
Marsters
Suli
Milne
Reynolds
Brooks

The backline might lack some pace but it would have some size about them and would help our forwards out from kick returns.

Happy for Marsters to play off the bench as I don't believe we should have a hooker on the bench.

As other Forum members have pointed out McQueen has undergone a serious neck operation and Lawrence has lost time through injuries so we may require Aloiai, Marsters, MCK to play second rower during the season. There is talk Taylor may sign with the Warriors.

Bench in 2018

Twal (prop and lock rotation)
Sue/Grant (prop rotation)
Aloiai (prop and second row rotation)
Marsters (backs and forwards)

Additional players

Michael Chee Kam (played well on the weekend)
J J Felise
Matt McIlwrick (if LIddle wins the hooker battle for 2018)

MWZ? I would say Milne will start on the bench first thing in 2018\. Nonetheless we should have great depth in the backline come next year.
 
@ said:
@ said:
I have been impressed with his development this year. Great when a young player is given a chance and takes it with both hands.

If we do not secure Rona and Kevin moves on why can't we go for a backline of

Lolohea
Nofoaluma
Marsters
Suli
Milne
Reynolds
Brooks

The backline might lack some pace but it would have some size about them and would help our forwards out from kick returns.

Happy for Marsters to play off the bench as I don't believe we should have a hooker on the bench.

As other Forum members have pointed out McQueen has undergone a serious neck operation and Lawrence has lost time through injuries so we may require Aloiai, Marsters, MCK to play second rower during the season. There is talk Taylor may sign with the Warriors.

Bench in 2018

Twal (prop and lock rotation)
Sue/Grant (prop rotation)
Aloiai (prop and second row rotation)
Marsters (backs and forwards)

Additional players

Michael Chee Kam (played well on the weekend)
J J Felise
Matt McIlwrick (if LIddle wins the hooker battle for 2018)

MWZ? I would say Milne will start on the bench first thing in 2018\. Nonetheless we should have great depth in the backline come next year.

Fonua? I would argue he'd be ahead of a few mentioned above…
 
Glad he got the opportunity and he's grabbed it with both hands. Think he could play the utility role off the bench but he doesn't look out of place at centre.
 
@ said:
@ said:
I have been impressed with his development this year. Great when a young player is given a chance and takes it with both hands.

If we do not secure Rona and Kevin moves on why can't we go for a backline of

Lolohea
Nofoaluma
Marsters
Suli
Milne
Reynolds
Brooks

The backline might lack some pace but it would have some size about them and would help our forwards out from kick returns.

Happy for Marsters to play off the bench as I don't believe we should have a hooker on the bench.

As other Forum members have pointed out McQueen has undergone a serious neck operation and Lawrence has lost time through injuries so we may require Aloiai, Marsters, MCK to play second rower during the season. There is talk Taylor may sign with the Warriors.

Bench in 2018

Twal (prop and lock rotation)
Sue/Grant (prop rotation)
Aloiai (prop and second row rotation)
Marsters (backs and forwards)

Additional players

Michael Chee Kam (played well on the weekend)
J J Felise
Matt McIlwrick (if LIddle wins the hooker battle for 2018)

MWZ? I would say Milne will start on the bench first thing in 2018\. Nonetheless we should have great depth in the backline come next year.

We're not St George, we can't and shouldn't carry a centre on the bench, especially if we're taking an extra hooker too. MWZ has earned first crack with Kev gone, but for the first time in a while we've got legitimate competition for positions, Milne has a full pre-season to prove himself and I'd back Cleary's call either way.
FWIW, I'd love to see Esan playing on an edge off the bench with
1\. Lolohea
2\. Nofoaluma
3\. Suli
4\. Fonua
5\. Rona/MWZ
 
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i still think his best position is backrow, but yes bench utility at worst next year.

Yeah I agree. He's a capable stop-gap centre, much better than JT previously throwing Lovett to the wolves there, but backrow is his position. When you look at our forward pack as a whole for next year, we have a few options in the backrow so Cleary may need to do some juggling around because I see a lot of upside with some of our forwards…Let's see:

Packer - Front row
Liddle/McIlwrick
Matulino - Front row
McQueen - Backrow
Lawrence - Backrow
Taylor - Lock/Backrow
Aloiai - Backrow
Sue - Front row/back row
Eisenhuth - Front row/backrow/lock
Twal - Front row
Chee-Kam - Backrow (stop gap centre)
Marsters - Backrow (stop gap centre)

We have options. I think Sue needs to focus on front row, and off the bench for impact subject to injuries. Eisenhuth offers more versatility and Twal is also comfortable in the middle. McQueen starts on one edge and either Rowdy or Taylor on the other. We need to make room for Aloiai and Marsters IMO because they both have a bit of footwork, especially Marsters and offer a bit more variety in attack, especially second phase play with offloads.

For next season I don't think we run with two hookers on the bench, we need the firepower in the middle and on the edges so four forwards on the bench, two props and a backrower and a middle player.
 
Happy for Marsters stay in the centres bust tackles, break the line, get away a few offloads, score the odd TRY and rack up 80 Supercoach points a week till the end of the season…

He's more than just a back up centre...
 
@ said:
@ said:
@ said:
I have been impressed with his development this year. Great when a young player is given a chance and takes it with both hands.

If we do not secure Rona and Kevin moves on why can't we go for a backline of

Lolohea
Nofoaluma
Marsters
Suli
Milne
Reynolds
Brooks

The backline might lack some pace but it would have some size about them and would help our forwards out from kick returns.

Happy for Marsters to play off the bench as I don't believe we should have a hooker on the bench.

As other Forum members have pointed out McQueen has undergone a serious neck operation and Lawrence has lost time through injuries so we may require Aloiai, Marsters, MCK to play second rower during the season. There is talk Taylor may sign with the Warriors.

Bench in 2018

Twal (prop and lock rotation)
Sue/Grant (prop rotation)
Aloiai (prop and second row rotation)
Marsters (backs and forwards)

Additional players

Michael Chee Kam (played well on the weekend)
J J Felise
Matt McIlwrick (if LIddle wins the hooker battle for 2018)

MWZ? I would say Milne will start on the bench first thing in 2018\. Nonetheless we should have great depth in the backline come next year.

We're not St George, we can't and shouldn't carry a centre on the bench, especially if we're taking an extra hooker too. MWZ has earned first crack with Kev gone, but for the first time in a while we've got legitimate competition for positions, Milne has a full pre-season to prove himself and I'd back Cleary's call either way.
FWIW, I'd love to see Esan playing on an edge off the bench with
1\. Lolohea
2\. Nofoaluma
3\. Suli
4\. Fonua
5\. Rona/MWZ

My mistake, I didn't necessarily mean on the bench. I meant in the extended team. As in probably not a starter until he gets a few games under his belt in reserves per say. Maybe he'll stun in pre season and start in FG, but I would say with the competition for positions he will have his work cut out for him.
 
I'll say one thing - Marsters was all over Copley yesterday, to think that Copley was hot property a few years ago.
 
Marsters should be playing in the 2nd row from next year. A couple years and hed be a top player. He has the build and committment. Just needs the experience.
 
He was always seen as a 2nd rower however ATM he has been doing a great job in the centres. So why change things if they are working.
Suddenly our right hand defence has become a non issue.
He is making metres and scoring tries.
If things are working…why change them?
 
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He was always seen as a 2nd rower however ATM he has been doing a great job in the centres. So why change things if they are working.
Suddenly our right hand defence has become a non issue.
He is making metres and scoring tries.
If things are working…why change them?

True that. :master:
 
Why Marsters was born to win

Martin Gabor Wed 09 Aug, 2017, 9:30am

If his name is anything to go by then we can expect great things from Wests Tigers rookie Esan Marsters.

How so, you might be asking yourselves. Well, Esan's middle name is Nike, and in Greek mythology, she is the goddess of victory; a good trait for someone involved in professional sport.

Fittingly, the 20-year-old has been a revelation at right centre since he made his debut in Round 13, with the former NYC star scoring four tries from nine appearances to sit equal third on the club's try-scorer list in 2017.

While Greek mythology would provide a fun backstory to explain his cool middle name, there is a far simpler explanation as to how he was given the name Nike.

"When I was born, my aunty didn't get to choose a name for my older brother so she asked my mum – who's her twin sister – if she could choose a name for me, and my mum told her that she could give me my middle name," Marsters explained to NRL.com.

"At that time she really liked Nike sporting gear so she went from there and my mum agreed. She made nothing of it at the time but now it's a pretty cool story, I guess.

"I still get a few questions from people who can't believe that's my middle name so it's good ice breaker. At Holy Cross (his high school), they used my middle name and everyone got excited, but now that I'm a bit older I just use my two names."

In a world dominated by personal brands, Marsters admitted he had entertained the idea of being sponsored by the iconic company, and it seems a more than likely scenario given the fact Nike already supplies him with clothing apparel.

"I want to sort that out because my manager already gets me Nike gear for this season so it would make sense for them to hopefully sponsor me one day," he added.

Just to add further spice to the story, Esan's aunt has a son of her own who is on track to play NRL in the coming years.

Steven Marsters has been a shining light at fullback and on the wing for the Dragons in the Holden Cup this season and was rewarded for his enterprising play with a call-up to the Junior Kiwis squad for the mid-year Test in Canberra.

The pair are so close that Esan refers to him as his little brother, while it's also rumoured that Steven has a brilliant middle name of his own; although Esan's mum didn't play any part in it.

"If you talk to him you'll have to ask him about his middle name because I think it's Hawk," Esan said.

"I think he gets jealous of me sometimes because his mum named me, but he's playing really good footy at the moment so I'm really proud of him."

http://www.nrl.com/why-marsters-was-born-to-win/tabid/10874/newsid/110850/default.aspx
 
Why Marsters was born to win

Wed 09 Aug, 2017, 9:30am
By Martin Gabor, National Correspondent‌‌, ‌‌‌NRL.com

If his name is anything to go by then we can expect great things from Wests Tigers rookie Esan Marsters.

How so, you might be asking yourselves. Well, Esan's middle name is Nike, and in Greek mythology, she is the goddess of victory; a good trait for someone involved in professional sport.

Fittingly, the 20-year-old has been a revelation at right centre since he made his debut in Round 13, with the former NYC star scoring four tries from nine appearances to sit equal third on the club's try-scorer list in 2017.

While Greek mythology would provide a fun backstory to explain his cool middle name, there is a far simpler explanation as to how he was given the name Nike.

"When I was born, my aunty didn't get to choose a name for my older brother so she asked my mum – who's her twin sister – if she could choose a name for me, and my mum told her that she could give me my middle name," Marsters explained to NRL.com.

"At that time she really liked Nike sporting gear so she went from there and my mum agreed. She made nothing of it at the time but now it's a pretty cool story, I guess.

"I still get a few questions from people who can't believe that's my middle name so it's good ice breaker. At Holy Cross (his high school), they used my middle name and everyone got excited, but now that I'm a bit older I just use my two names."

In a world dominated by personal brands, Marsters admitted he had entertained the idea of being sponsored by the iconic company, and it seems a more than likely scenario given the fact Nike already supplies him with clothing apparel.

"I want to sort that out because my manager already gets me Nike gear for this season so it would make sense for them to hopefully sponsor me one day," he added.

Just to add further spice to the story, Esan's aunt has a son of her own who is on track to play NRL in the coming years.

Steven Marsters has been a shining light at fullback and on the wing for the Dragons in the Holden Cup this season and was rewarded for his enterprising play with a call-up to the Junior Kiwis squad for the mid-year Test in Canberra.

The pair are so close that Esan refers to him as his little brother, while it's also rumoured that Steven has a brilliant middle name of his own; although Esan's mum didn't play any part in it.

"If you talk to him you'll have to ask him about his middle name because I think it's Hawk," Esan said.

"I think he gets jealous of me sometimes because his mum named me, but he's playing really good footy at the moment so I'm really proud of him."
 
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