Fans have right to ire over Cleary: Tigers

[LCA]

I agree that the situation was managed well by the leaders of our club. The outcome though?

Maybe the appointment of Maguire was the best outcome in the circumstances; certainly the best for him. He seems to be the complete opposite of Cleary though; intense and driven. Is that what the club needed? Hmmmmm…...not so sure.

Happy to let his record as WT coach determine that.

But, due to the vagaries of membership opt out auto-renewal, I've parted (according to the credit card statement) with another $1400 to see how season 2019 pans out for us. Here's hoping.

 

[The_Patriot]

Hatred for Elias aside he has a point. For the first time in years the guy is correct.

 

[tigerap]

Hatred for Elias aside he has a point. For the first time in years the guy is correct.

As much as I dislike the crap that comes out of Elias’ mouth I have to agree with him here

 

[Defiant]

We do owe thanks to Cleary for showing Moses the door. Was hoping that was the last we heard from Elias…...

 

[The_Patriot]

If he was in charge and called the shots while these players exited our club then he is responsible for the rebuilding of our club once they are gone

Instead he bails on us mid contract. . .

Its not something that will ever be forgiven and i think if people want to say he is responsible for those guys leaving then they have every right to say that. In fact the only person who should be defending those accusations has just left the building.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

If he was in charge and called the shots while these players exited our club then he is responsible for the rebuilding of our club once they are gone

Instead he bails on us mid contract. . .

Its not something that will ever be forgiven **and i think if people want to say he is responsible for those guys leaving then they have every right to say that**. In fact the only person who should be defending those accusations has just left the building.

Then they’d be contradicting themselves, because they defended him for a year saying it wasn’t his fault, it was Taylor’s.

 

[Nucky_Thompson]

Hatred for Elias aside he has a point. For the first time in years the guy is correct.

I'd agree with anyone hating on ivan.

 

[The_Patriot]

If he was in charge and called the shots while these players exited our club then he is responsible for the rebuilding of our club once they are gone

Instead he bails on us mid contract. . .

Its not something that will ever be forgiven **and i think if people want to say he is responsible for those guys leaving then they have every right to say that**. In fact the only person who should be defending those accusations has just left the building.

Then they’d be contradicting themselves, because they defended him for a year saying it wasn’t his fault, it was Taylor’s.

This changes it

**If he was in charge and called the shots while these players exited our club then he is responsible for the rebuilding of our club once they are gone**

If something happens on your watch then you bail before it gets cleaned up im pretty sure most people would blame the guy who bailed.

I think people like yourself should ask yourself if you want to waste your time defending a guy like Cleary.

 

[ryanda01]

If he was in charge and called the shots while these players exited our club then he is responsible for the rebuilding of our club once they are gone

Instead he bails on us mid contract. . .

Its not something that will ever be forgiven **and i think if people want to say he is responsible for those guys leaving then they have every right to say that**. In fact the only person who should be defending those accusations has just left the building.

Then they’d be contradicting themselves, because they defended him for a year saying it wasn’t his fault, it was Taylor’s.

This changes it

**If he was in charge and called the shots while these players exited our club then he is responsible for the rebuilding of our club once they are gone**

If something happens on your watch then you bail before it gets cleaned up im pretty sure most people would blame the guy who bailed.

I think people like yourself should ask yourself if you want to waste your time defending a guy like Cleary.

Its not like Ricky Stuart did it at Parra….

 

[The_Patriot]

If he was in charge and called the shots while these players exited our club then he is responsible for the rebuilding of our club once they are gone

Instead he bails on us mid contract. . .

Its not something that will ever be forgiven **and i think if people want to say he is responsible for those guys leaving then they have every right to say that**. In fact the only person who should be defending those accusations has just left the building.

Then they’d be contradicting themselves, because they defended him for a year saying it wasn’t his fault, it was Taylor’s.

All im really saying GNR is that given how Ivan has carried on and the position he left us in im not about to correct anyone if they want to lay full blame on Cleary.

 

[Nucky_Thompson]

‘He’s tough but fair’: Tigers legends back Michael Maguire to finish the club’s rebuild

WESTS Tigers premiership winners Pat Richards and John Skandalis have backed new coach Michael Maguire to finish Ivan Cleary’s rebuild at the NRL club.

Scott Bailey
AAP OCTOBER 29, 201810:24AM

WESTS Tigers premiership winners Pat Richards and John Skandalis have backed new coach Michael Maguire to finish Ivan Cleary’s rebuild at the NRL club.

Maguire will take over as Tigers coach on a three-year deal after his appointment was confirmed on Sunday, with Cleary headed to Penrith on a long-term deal.

The former South Sydney mentor becomes the Tigers’ fifth coach in eight years, but the first to arrive with premiership-winning experience since Tim Sheens in 2003.

“I think his record speaks for itself,” Skandalis, who is now an assistant with the club’s NSW Cup side, said.

“He got a premiership in England as well with Wigan and came over to Souths and got a premiership there. He’s doing a great job with the Kiwis at the moment.

“His record is enough to say he’s a very good coach and good fit for the club.”

The Tigers haven’t played finals football since 2011, but last year had their second-best defensive season in the joint-venture’s history as they finished ninth.

“Ivan has left the club in a good spot as well,” Richards said while playing in the Battle of the Smashers charity cricket match with Skandalis on Sunday.

“Madge (Maguire) is not coming in to a side that is struggling, they played really well last year and I think Madge will really help them continue to grow.

“He’s great with the young guys coming through … He’ll be tough on them but he’s fair as well.”

Maguire will arrive at the club’s Concord headquarters when he returns from New Zealand’s tour of England next month, and will be there when senior players return for pre-season training on November 15.

He will be the only change to the club’s football staff, as the Tigers made clear throughout talks with both he and Bennett they wanted to keep their current department in place.

“We were very transparent and forthright through the process that we feel like we’ve got a really strong high performance and football department,” chief executive Justin Pascoe told AAP.

“We’re comfortable and confident in the program and I think you saw the improvement levels in strength and fitness and all the key attributes last year so that will just continue.”

Suprised the football staff stay in tack. However expect mass changes 2020.

 

[innsaneink]

‘He’s tough but fair’: Tigers legends back Michael Maguire to finish the club’s rebuild

WESTS Tigers premiership winners Pat Richards and John Skandalis have backed new coach Michael Maguire to finish Ivan Cleary’s rebuild at the NRL club.

Scott Bailey
AAP OCTOBER 29, 201810:24AM

WESTS Tigers premiership winners Pat Richards and John Skandalis have backed new coach Michael Maguire to finish Ivan Cleary’s rebuild at the NRL club.

Maguire will take over as Tigers coach on a three-year deal after his appointment was confirmed on Sunday, with Cleary headed to Penrith on a long-term deal.

The former South Sydney mentor becomes the Tigers’ fifth coach in eight years, but the first to arrive with premiership-winning experience since Tim Sheens in 2003.

“I think his record speaks for itself,” Skandalis, who is now an assistant with the club’s NSW Cup side, said.

“He got a premiership in England as well with Wigan and came over to Souths and got a premiership there. He’s doing a great job with the Kiwis at the moment.

“His record is enough to say he’s a very good coach and good fit for the club.”

The Tigers haven’t played finals football since 2011, but last year had their second-best defensive season in the joint-venture’s history as they finished ninth.

“Ivan has left the club in a good spot as well,” Richards said while playing in the Battle of the Smashers charity cricket match with Skandalis on Sunday.

“Madge (Maguire) is not coming in to a side that is struggling, they played really well last year and I think Madge will really help them continue to grow.

“He’s great with the young guys coming through … He’ll be tough on them but he’s fair as well.”

Maguire will arrive at the club’s Concord headquarters when he returns from New Zealand’s tour of England next month, and will be there when senior players return for pre-season training on November 15.

He will be the only change to the club’s football staff, as the Tigers made clear throughout talks with both he and Bennett they wanted to keep their current department in place.

“We were very transparent and forthright through the process that we feel like we’ve got a really strong high performance and football department,” chief executive Justin Pascoe told AAP.

“We’re comfortable and confident in the program and I think you saw the improvement levels in strength and fitness and all the key attributes last year so that will just continue.”

Suprised the football staff stay in tack. However expect mass changes 2020.

Yep, no doubt…maybe not mass changes but there will be some.
Just because Ivan dogged it doesnt mean the support staff should be penalised, tarred with the same brush...i think it should help Madge and the players transition having some familiar support staff around that already know the ins and outs of the squad

 

[sideline_eye]

Pascoe for President

Well, maybe Vice President behind Tommy Raudonikis!

 

[The_Patriot]

Make Wests great again

 

[happy_tiger]

Who is Ivan Cleary?

Don't answer that, I don't really care.

He's somebody that we used to know….

Which lead me to write this (to the tune of Somebody that I Used to Know)

Now and then I think of when we were together
Like when you said you felt so happy that you'd signed
Told myself that you were on the bus
Thought you were glad to be away from Gus
But it’s a lie and it's an ache I still remember

As Tigers fans you‘re addicted to a certain kind of sadness
Like resignation to the end, always the end
So when we found out, we could not make sense
And then you weren’t clear in your press conference
I'll admit that I am glad it’s all over

But you didn't have to cut us off
Make out like it never happened and that we were nothing
And we don't even need your son
Cause in the Dally M’s Luke Brooks he nearly won
I'll admit that I am glad it’s all over

No, you didn't have to stoop so low
Send your text without addressing all the players
I guess that I don't need that though
At the awards night you were a poor no show
And now you're just somebody that we used to know

Now and then I think of how you screwed us over
Had us believing you would see out your contract
But I don't wanna live that way
Reading into every word you say
Now I think that you are really just a liar
The talk of buses and team was really just for show
But it’s a win for us because we signed Maguire
And now you're just somebody that we used to know

Apologies to the original artist - Gotye

Thought this could be just as apt a song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fr-9Bh9a0sQ&list=RDfr-9Bh9a0sQ&start_radio=1#t=38

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Who is Ivan Cleary?

Don't answer that, I don't really care.

He's somebody that we used to know….

Which lead me to write this (to the tune of Somebody that I Used to Know)

Now and then I think of when we were together
Like when you said you felt so happy that you'd signed
Told myself that you were on the bus
Thought you were glad to be away from Gus
But it’s a lie and it's an ache I still remember

As Tigers fans you‘re addicted to a certain kind of sadness
Like resignation to the end, always the end
So when we found out, we could not make sense
And then you weren’t clear in your press conference
I'll admit that I am glad it’s all over

But you didn't have to cut us off
Make out like it never happened and that we were nothing
And we don't even need your son
Cause in the Dally M’s Luke Brooks he nearly won
I'll admit that I am glad it’s all over

No, you didn't have to stoop so low
Send your text without addressing all the players
I guess that I don't need that though
At the awards night you were a poor no show
And now you're just somebody that we used to know

Now and then I think of how you screwed us over
Had us believing you would see out your contract
But I don't wanna live that way
Reading into every word you say
Now I think that you are really just a liar
The talk of buses and team was really just for show
But it’s a win for us because we signed Maguire
And now you're just somebody that we used to know

Apologies to the original artist - Gotye

Hahaha, that is brilliant mate.

 

[TheDaBoss]

Make Wests great again

build a wall

 

[The_Patriot]

Make Wests great again

build a wall

Yes, on our try line

 

[oldprop]

Who is Ivan Cleary?

Don't answer that, I don't really care.

He's somebody that we used to know….

Which lead me to write this (to the tune of Somebody that I Used to Know)

Now and then I think of when we were together
Like when you said you felt so happy that you'd signed
Told myself that you were on the bus
Thought you were glad to be away from Gus
But it’s a lie and it's an ache I still remember

As Tigers fans you‘re addicted to a certain kind of sadness
Like resignation to the end, always the end
So when we found out, we could not make sense
And then you weren’t clear in your press conference
I'll admit that I am glad it’s all over

But you didn't have to cut us off
Make out like it never happened and that we were nothing
And we don't even need your son
Cause in the Dally M’s Luke Brooks he nearly won
I'll admit that I am glad it’s all over

No, you didn't have to stoop so low
Send your text without addressing all the players
I guess that I don't need that though
At the awards night you were a poor no show
And now you're just somebody that we used to know

Now and then I think of how you screwed us over
Had us believing you would see out your contract
But I don't wanna live that way
Reading into every word you say
Now I think that you are really just a liar
The talk of buses and team was really just for show
But it’s a win for us because we signed Maguire
And now you're just somebody that we used to know

Apologies to the original artist - Gotye

Hahaha, that is brilliant mate.

Very good mctiger. Love it. Says it all.

 

[Seantice]

We get a premiership coach and get paid a percentage for it. Is the Wests Tigers? Usually it would be the other way around.

I think we would of gotten 500k plus Maguire which is great news.