Farah calls in cops over vile tweet

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@Yossarian said:
@Blakeeeeeee said:
could someone PM me what was said and what farah's reply was?

Robbie himself retweeted the offending tweet. It should still be on twitter. Also a quick google will tell you. I'm just giving these options because I don't feel right even about typing a PM to you using the original wording. Let's just say it concerned his mother and a fairly juvenile taunt.

I know we have our moments, but this is NOT one of them.

"Juvenile" describing it as juvenile is going waaaaay to soft on this animal, we were discussing it at work, how someone can even think the things he wrote down - the person is sick, ill, mental, deranged, a lowlife disgusting and vile piece of work…..an I didnt think I was naive, maybe I am....to realize there are people out there that can assess Robbies situation and add his gross perverted imagination to it, send it to him.....this is up there with offences on kids etc imo....I try not to lose sight of what a beatiful country were in, we all come across dickheads every day.....its a battle, and well done to robbie for fighting the GOOD fight
 
@Tiger Watto said:
If you are high profile personality, you WILL become a target!

This is so true.

There is no way I would be on twitter if I was famous. There are pathetic people out there who are extreme losers in life yet online they can create whatever persona they like. These people are your cyber bullies/trolls. They find weaknesses and target them without any care of consequences. Unfortunately for Robbie,the online victimisation of his mother is an easy and very powerful trolling act. There are groups of these pussies who dare each other to take down celebrities or create the perfect troll. It truly sucks and I'd suggest there is bugger all that can be done about it without impacting upon the whole country's freedoms.
 
I don't think I could have a social media account either if I were well known Stryker. Seems like for every genuine fan there's some douchebag who is jealous of your success wanting to take pot shots from the sideline.

That said, footy players (and celebrities in general,) get on social media by and large to interact with their fans. It's given them a means to interact with their fans without being physically invasive. Why should they forfeit it because some goose with a chip on his shoulder decides to make inappropriate & offensive comments?
 
@innsaneink said:
@Yossarian said:
@Blakeeeeeee said:
could someone PM me what was said and what farah's reply was?

Robbie himself retweeted the offending tweet. It should still be on twitter. Also a quick google will tell you. I'm just giving these options because I don't feel right even about typing a PM to you using the original wording. Let's just say it concerned his mother and a fairly juvenile taunt.

I know we have our moments, but this is NOT one of them.

"Juvenile" describing it as juvenile is going waaaaay to soft on this animal, we were discussing it at work, how someone can even think the things he wrote down - the person is sick, ill, mental, deranged, a lowlife disgusting and vile piece of work…..an I didnt think I was naive, maybe I am....to realize there are people out there that can assess Robbies situation and add his gross perverted imagination to it, send it to him.....this is up there with offences on kids etc imo....I try not to lose sight of what a beatiful country were in, we all come across dickheads every day.....its a battle, and well done to robbie for fighting the GOOD fight

Bang on Ink… Even if it were this creep's own twisted interpretation of a "joke," you'd have to wonder what sort of thoughts inhabit this person's head, it's far from normal to say the very least and when this persons identity is made public (which you'd imagine is only a matter of time,) you'd have to say that those in proximity to him will think much less of them. The only redeeming thing in this whole sad issue is that the life of this goose will inevitably become hell for them.

I'm proud of Robbie for sticking it to the clown, having the courage and tenacity to retweet this fools comment so that his 27 thousand odd follows could cast their own assessment on this sadistic piece of work. Some of his followers did the legwork and obtained this pissant's IP so I think we would find that the police will be paying that person a visit in the very near future.
 
@innsaneink said:
@Yossarian said:
@Blakeeeeeee said:
could someone PM me what was said and what farah's reply was?

Robbie himself retweeted the offending tweet. It should still be on twitter. Also a quick google will tell you. I'm just giving these options because I don't feel right even about typing a PM to you using the original wording. Let's just say it concerned his mother and a fairly juvenile taunt.

I know we have our moments, but this is NOT one of them.

"Juvenile" describing it as juvenile is going waaaaay to soft on this animal, we were discussing it at work, how someone can even think the things he wrote down - the person is sick, ill, mental, deranged, a lowlife disgusting and vile piece of work…..an I didnt think I was naive, maybe I am....to realize there are people out there that can assess Robbies situation and add his gross perverted imagination to it, send it to him.....this is up there with offences on kids etc imo....I try not to lose sight of what a beatiful country were in, we all come across dickheads every day.....its a battle, and well done to robbie for fighting the GOOD fight

Yeah you're right. Juvenile is probably too kind. I was more meaning it was the kind of taunt you expect from people who lack adult social skills. But you're spot on - it was really the most offensive and hurtful thing you could say to someone in those circumstances. I was saying to the wife the other day that I thought civility and courtesy have gone downhill in this country.

I'm glad Robbie has taken this up not just from his personal perspective but the issue in general. I also think Barry O'Farrell, a man who I'm not a great admirer of, has done well so far. It's about time everyone remembered that actions have consequences.
 
Social media and in particular twitter is a breeding ground for morons such as this. With much better Internet accessibility and the notion of being anonymous, expect more of the same.

It's a huge problem and the status quo will be maintained until there is a bigger deterrent to post such baseless tripe I.E 3-5 years gaol hands down if somebody makes explicit, hurtful attacks online hands down.
 
The whole things is disturbing.
The trolls comments are unbelievably offensive and should be dealt with, but that doesn't mean they should create a police state because of a few stupid people.
I don't see how 'celebrities' cant understand how their public 'private' conversations with other 'celebrities' feed this type of nonsense.

How is it different to someone saying that exact same thing in the street to another person which happens every day. Its just that other people don't hear it and its not said to someone famous so we don't care.

Laws are meant to be for us, the common folk, not for the rich and famous.
 
Sticks and stones
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Seriously … we're letting a rugby league football player lead the discussion about online freedom of speech in this country?
When I first wrote that sentence, I thought maybe I was exaggerating - that the suggestion a vile tweet to NRL star Robbie Farah about his dead mother had actually caused a political reaction - was really quite silly.
Then I heard no-less than the Premier of NSW, Barry O'Farrell saying on ABC Radio : "I'm going to speak to the Police Commissioner about this specific incident.
"But there's a bigger issue here and that is how the states [can] work with the federal government, particularly the Communications Minister, to see what can be done," O'Farrell said.
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NSW Police Minister Michael Gallacher then told a press conference in Sydney Monday morning that Twitter trolls should be arrested.
"Honestly, these clowns who hide behind their keyboards in their mothers' basements thinking that they can send offensive messages … we've got to empower police with the ability to replace their keyboards with handcuffs."
Wow.
On the weekend I wrote a column in which I questioned the absurdity of media types (MTs), paid for the privilege of transmitting their opinions to millions, wailing about a miniscule number of "nobodies" and "losers" getting a shot in with their own thoughts on Twitter.
It's intriguing how far my industry disappears up its own bottom at times, with journalists and MTs giving endless oxygen to issues that barely register with the people who consume our product.
A case in point is Twitter - a micro-blogging site used extensively by MTs to snarkily critique the world and self-promote but, when that self is attacked with metaphoric rotting fruit from the raucous groundlings, they get all offended.
Note the glee with which the media runs stories about "thin-skinned corporations" when a multinational's Facebook page is attacked and said company deletes offensive posts to "protect their brand".
Yet when journalists or MTs, who also market themselves as brands, are attacked in a similarly vile fashion, other journalists and MTs rush to sympathise, while the high-profile 'victim' deletes all traces of their often equally offensive involvement in the cyber kerfuffle.
More startling are the calls from these aggrieved elites that "trolls should be bought to account!" or "the laws must be changed!" to protect their featherbed sensibilities.
The very same champions who recoil from suggestions of state censorship and "gummint control of the meeja" seem to think there are two types of free speech: the polite, professional version they produce and the crude, brutal, inconvenient offerings of the general public.
Unfortunately, a couple of paragraphs were cut for space and one of them was this:
This is not to condone hate speech as identified by existing legal statutes - just the easily avoided, nasty crap people tend to say online when they disagree with you.
We have laws to deal with racial and religious vilification, libel, defamation, the revealing of state secrets, as well as advertising standards to reign in corporations ... so to say we have "free speech" in this country is something of a misnomer.
There are always limits to what you can say in a society, although, we do not presently have any law against tweeting nasty stuff about peoples' dead mothers, nor the hosts of reality TV shows.
This is not to say this will always be the case. Another paragraph removed from my weekend column made this point.
Our recent generations' enlargement of moral sympathy to include both genders, all races, most religions, the disabled, the poor - even animals and trees might be our defining virtue.
One hundred years ago you could pretty much say - not to mention do - what you wanted about women, homosexuals and people of other races and religions.
It's almost unthinkable now - which may well be the case in the future with comments the likes of which Robbie Farah has dealt with.
At the moment, though, it is not.
Sportsmen such as Farah often use Twitter to remove the "filter of the media", so fans can get their idols' undiluted thoughts and opinions.
They should therefore not be surprised when the odd turd blows back up the social media spout because they've removed this screen between themselves and the masses.
I think Farah is a great hooker and his performance in State of Origin II this year was almost superhuman (63 tackles, not one tackle missed).
From all accounts he's a good bloke as well, loved his mother and, yes, it's obscene that anyone would mock her.
However, it is currently not illegal to be an insensitive dickhead on Twitter and putting up with grubs like the one who baited Farah is an unfortunate consequence of all of us being able to voice our opinions in a democratic society.
And to insist that corporations like Twitter or Facebook adjudicate on what is "offensive" - outside of legal statutes - strikes me as ridiculous as asking Telstra to disconnect people because they say shitty things over the phone.
For more than 2000 years, the right to freedom of speech has been a debate that occupied greater minds than Barry O'Farrell, Robbie Farah and Charlotte Dawson.
I'd encourage anyone who cares about this issue to read the likes of Plato, John Locke, Hobbes, Machiavelli, John Stuart Mill and Voltaire to have your opinion enlarged beyond "them trolls need to be stopped".
Noam Chomsky puts it this way: "If you believe in freedom of speech, you believe in freedom of speech for views you don't like".
That includes ones that offend you as well.
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Saw this article on the matter this morning, he makes some good points I reckon
 
He's had a few tweets from some other clown today which are in the same category as those yesterday. Robbie just laughed at him and told him he feels sorry for him.
 
@dermo said:
Sticks and stones
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Seriously … we're letting a rugby league football player lead the discussion about online freedom of speech in this country?
When I first wrote that sentence, I thought maybe I was exaggerating - that the suggestion a vile tweet to NRL star Robbie Farah about his dead mother had actually caused a political reaction - was really quite silly.
Then I heard no-less than the Premier of NSW, Barry O'Farrell saying on ABC Radio : "I'm going to speak to the Police Commissioner about this specific incident.
"But there's a bigger issue here and that is how the states [can] work with the federal government, particularly the Communications Minister, to see what can be done," O'Farrell said.
Advertisement
NSW Police Minister Michael Gallacher then told a press conference in Sydney Monday morning that Twitter trolls should be arrested.
"Honestly, these clowns who hide behind their keyboards in their mothers' basements thinking that they can send offensive messages … we've got to empower police with the ability to replace their keyboards with handcuffs."
Wow.
On the weekend I wrote a column in which I questioned the absurdity of media types (MTs), paid for the privilege of transmitting their opinions to millions, wailing about a miniscule number of "nobodies" and "losers" getting a shot in with their own thoughts on Twitter.
It's intriguing how far my industry disappears up its own bottom at times, with journalists and MTs giving endless oxygen to issues that barely register with the people who consume our product.
A case in point is Twitter - a micro-blogging site used extensively by MTs to snarkily critique the world and self-promote but, when that self is attacked with metaphoric rotting fruit from the raucous groundlings, they get all offended.
Note the glee with which the media runs stories about "thin-skinned corporations" when a multinational's Facebook page is attacked and said company deletes offensive posts to "protect their brand".
Yet when journalists or MTs, who also market themselves as brands, are attacked in a similarly vile fashion, other journalists and MTs rush to sympathise, while the high-profile 'victim' deletes all traces of their often equally offensive involvement in the cyber kerfuffle.
More startling are the calls from these aggrieved elites that "trolls should be bought to account!" or "the laws must be changed!" to protect their featherbed sensibilities.
The very same champions who recoil from suggestions of state censorship and "gummint control of the meeja" seem to think there are two types of free speech: the polite, professional version they produce and the crude, brutal, inconvenient offerings of the general public.
Unfortunately, a couple of paragraphs were cut for space and one of them was this:
This is not to condone hate speech as identified by existing legal statutes - just the easily avoided, nasty crap people tend to say online when they disagree with you.
We have laws to deal with racial and religious vilification, libel, defamation, the revealing of state secrets, as well as advertising standards to reign in corporations ... so to say we have "free speech" in this country is something of a misnomer.
There are always limits to what you can say in a society, although, we do not presently have any law against tweeting nasty stuff about peoples' dead mothers, nor the hosts of reality TV shows.
This is not to say this will always be the case. Another paragraph removed from my weekend column made this point.
Our recent generations' enlargement of moral sympathy to include both genders, all races, most religions, the disabled, the poor - even animals and trees might be our defining virtue.
One hundred years ago you could pretty much say - not to mention do - what you wanted about women, homosexuals and people of other races and religions.
It's almost unthinkable now - which may well be the case in the future with comments the likes of which Robbie Farah has dealt with.
At the moment, though, it is not.
Sportsmen such as Farah often use Twitter to remove the "filter of the media", so fans can get their idols' undiluted thoughts and opinions.
They should therefore not be surprised when the odd turd blows back up the social media spout because they've removed this screen between themselves and the masses.
I think Farah is a great hooker and his performance in State of Origin II this year was almost superhuman (63 tackles, not one tackle missed).
From all accounts he's a good bloke as well, loved his mother and, yes, it's obscene that anyone would mock her.
However, it is currently not illegal to be an insensitive peanut on Twitter and putting up with grubs like the one who baited Farah is an unfortunate consequence of all of us being able to voice our opinions in a democratic society.
And to insist that corporations like Twitter or Facebook adjudicate on what is "offensive" - outside of legal statutes - strikes me as ridiculous as asking Telstra to disconnect people because they say s*** things over the phone.
For more than 2000 years, the right to freedom of speech has been a debate that occupied greater minds than Barry O'Farrell, Robbie Farah and Charlotte Dawson.
I'd encourage anyone who cares about this issue to read the likes of Plato, John Locke, Hobbes, Machiavelli, John Stuart Mill and Voltaire to have your opinion enlarged beyond "them trolls need to be stopped".
Noam Chomsky puts it this way: "If you believe in freedom of speech, you believe in freedom of speech for views you don't like".
That includes ones that offend you as well.
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Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/executive-style/culture/blogs/all-men-are-liars/sticks-and-stones-20120910-25n74.html#ixzz2680A9lLI

Saw this article on the matter this morning, he makes some good points I reckon

Freedom of speech is fine - what was tweeted to Farah was not an opinion - it was a disgusting insult.
It is ridiculous to say you invite insults by having an account…er , is that the same as a woman inviting rape because she makes herself look attractive?
What the writer conveniently glosses over is the problem that people who say these things on twitter/facebook hide behide the cloak of anonymity.
Feel free to spout your filth - but be prepared to put your name to it .
If you were to speak like that on the street then people could deal with you as they saw fit... these cowards would never have the guts to get out of their hovels and stand behind their words.
 
Someone else has started on him now… Not that the opinion of some jerk-off bong rat would really matter to him anyway.
 
The Police Commissioner is involved?

That's awesome news! That means the police have solved every other crime. I might call 000 and see if they've found my TV.

Twitter has a block button as does Facebook, and there's plenty of laws protecting against libel and hate speech. which this doesn't even come close to falling under.

And to anyone who disagrees with my opinion: I consider that offensive and will report you to Barry O'Farrell.
 
@Sataris said:
The Police Commissioner is involved?

That's awesome news! That means the police have solved every other crime. I might call 000 and see if they've found my TV.

Twitter has a block button as does Facebook, and there's plenty of laws protecting against libel and hate speech. which this doesn't even come close to falling under.

And to anyone who disagrees with my opinion: I consider that offensive and will report you to Barry O'Farrell.

Think you'll find what was tweeted will easily fit as a crime.
It wasn't an opinion - it was a deliberate sick and perverted statement that any reasonable person would find offensive.
After they charge this clown you can call 000 and see if they think your stolen TV is an emergency.
If not then just tweet Barry O'Farrell and ask him…politely of course.
 
@cktiger said:
Think you'll find what was tweeted will easily fit as a crime.
It wasn't an opinion - it was a deliberate sick and perverted statement **that any reasonable person would find offensive.**
After they charge this clown you can call 000 and see if they think your stolen TV is an emergency.
If not then just tweet Barry O'Farrell and ask him…politely of course.

I'm not disagreeing it's sick and offensive.

However, offensiveness isn't illegal. And If they do charge him, Under what law?

Because the law only covers threats afaik.
 
@Cultured Bogan said:
Someone else has started on him now… **Not that the opinion of some jerk-off bong rat would really matter to him anyway.**

This is where i stand on it, I don't see how you can get offended by words on a screen that were written by someone you don't even know? In Robbies case its probably a little different being that his mother passed so recently, but I think jail terms like many on here are saying is a little harsh
 
Forget jail terms…just name and shame him/them and let natural justice prevail.

As the old saying goes..."nothing teaches a lesson better than the loss of an eye"....
 
@dermo said:
@Cultured Bogan said:
Someone else has started on him now… **Not that the opinion of some jerk-off bong rat would really matter to him anyway.**

This is where i stand on it, I don't see how you can get offended by words on a screen that were written by someone you don't even know? In Robbies case its probably a little different being that his mother passed so recently, but I think jail terms like many on here are saying is a little harsh

Do you know what its like to be a celebruty, a well known public figure….Im guessing youre just another average joe like the rest of us.

That might be a bit different for Robbie.....while he doesnt know this jerk, this jerk knows a fair bit about robbie.
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@yoss said:
Yeah you're right. Juvenile is probably too kind. I was more meaning it was the kind of taunt you expect from people who lack adult social skills. But you're spot on - it was really the most offensive and hurtful thing you could say to someone in those circumstances. I was saying to the wife the other day that I thought civility and courtesy have gone downhill in this country.

I'm glad Robbie has taken this up not just from his personal perspective but the issue in general. I also think Barry O'Farrell, a man who I'm not a great admirer of, has done well so far. It's about time everyone remembered that actions have consequences.

Well said, yoss, I agree totally

@ck said:
Freedom of speech is fine - what was tweeted to Farah was not an opinion - it was a disgusting insult.
It is ridiculous to say you invite insults by having an account…er , is that the same as a woman inviting rape because she makes herself look attractive?
What the writer conveniently glosses over is the problem that people who say these things on twitter/facebook hide behide the cloak of anonymity.
Feel free to spout your filth - but be prepared to put your name to it .
If you were to speak like that on the street then people could deal with you as they saw fit... these cowards would never have the guts to get out of their hovels and stand behind their words.

As above CK, agree totally
 
@Sataris said:
@cktiger said:
Think you'll find what was tweeted will easily fit as a crime.
It wasn't an opinion - it was a deliberate sick and perverted statement **that any reasonable person would find offensive.**
After they charge this clown you can call 000 and see if they think your stolen TV is an emergency.
If not then just tweet Barry O'Farrell and ask him…politely of course.

I'm not disagreeing it's sick and offensive.

However, offensiveness isn't illegal. And If they do charge him, Under what law?

Because the law only covers threats afaik.

As posted by Glen McWilliams on page 2:

Commonwealth Criminal Code

474.17 Using a carriage service to menace, harass or cause offence

(1) A person is guilty of an offence if:

(a) the person uses a carriage service; and

(b) the person does so in a way (whether by the method of use or the content of a communication, or both) that **reasonable persons would regard as being**, in all the circumstances, menacing, harassing or **offensive**.

Penalty: Imprisonment for 3 years.
 

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