Farah to SOUTH SYDNEY in 2017..OFFICIAL..

[Tigerdon]

So disappointed about JAC .. they really stuffed up there.

Agree re: Ado Carr. That's bad communication/ man management. I know fitting everyone into the salary cap is difficult and player managers are mostly just looking at dollars. If someone from Melbourne was waving a contract around it would be hard not to sign if you had nothing solid from everyone else.
The WTs v Newcastle swop would be good for Newcastle and bad for us. We will be a weaker team on the field and a poorer team off it. Newcastle will end up ditching a player currently in Reggies and get extra cash curtesy of us.
Goes against the Born&Breed v Brought&Feed ….or however that saying goes.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Geez Snake
Its well documented Benji and Robbie took less when they were worth more.. And that was to help the club.
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Poor Robbie will get more daggers aimed at him when he retires..
I feel for the bloke

The irony is that backended deal allowed the club to retain other players and remain under the cap. Now the club are banking on Farah again to help them out to retain ET.
Pascoe will need to be very measured when negotiating with Farah in light of what happened about this time last year.

Farah should do the right thing his employer has stated that his services are no longer required ,they have assured him he will be paid what he is owed regardless .What does this tell you about the man ,he has no regard for this club he has again as usual got his nose out of joint and will just sit back and cruise to the end of next season .It amuses me when many keep bringing up the money HELLO he is going to get his money it is not about money it is all about him as usual!

That's outright wrong: the club has stated that it will honour Farah's contract if he doesn't leave - which it has no choice but to do, quite frankly. It has categorically not said that it will still pay him if he leaves.

Farah has clearly not been able to find anyone else who will pay him what the Tigers are contracted to do, so he is exercising his right to be paid what the club agreed to pay him. Why should he walk away from his contracted salary just because his employer was run by a bunch of halfwits three years ago?

I never understand why fans reliably take the side of management in these disputes. Farah negotiated and was given this contract, and he's doing his best to earn it on the field. If he's no longer 'worth' the dollar value, that's not his fault. If no-one else will match the contract, that's not his fault. If he hasn't found anywhere he'd rather play than the Tigers, that's quite possibly also not his fault.

Farah won't leave for the same money or less. The club has clearly shown that it will continue to pick him if he stays and he will be paid what he is owed if he stays (as he should be.)

I would say it's not unreasonable to suggest that Farah will not be financially disadvantaged in any circumstance.

 

[batboy]

Geez Snake
Its well documented Benji and Robbie took less when they were worth more.. And that was to help the club.
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Poor Robbie will get more daggers aimed at him when he retires..
I feel for the bloke

The irony is that backended deal allowed the club to retain other players and remain under the cap. Now the club are banking on Farah again to help them out to retain ET.
Pascoe will need to be very measured when negotiating with Farah in light of what happened about this time last year.

Farah should do the right thing his employer has stated that his services are no longer required ,they have assured him he will be paid what he is owed regardless .What does this tell you about the man ,he has no regard for this club he has again as usual got his nose out of joint and will just sit back and cruise to the end of next season .It amuses me when many keep bringing up the money HELLO he is going to get his money it is not about money it is all about him as usual!

That's outright wrong: the club has stated that it will honour Farah's contract if he doesn't leave - which it has no choice but to do, quite frankly. It has categorically not said that it will still pay him if he leaves.

Farah has clearly not been able to find anyone else who will pay him what the Tigers are contracted to do, so he is exercising his right to be paid what the club agreed to pay him. Why should he walk away from his contracted salary just because his employer was run by a bunch of halfwits three years ago?

I never understand why fans reliably take the side of management in these disputes. Farah negotiated and was given this contract, and he's doing his best to earn it on the field. If he's no longer 'worth' the dollar value, that's not his fault. If no-one else will match the contract, that's not his fault. If he hasn't found anywhere he'd rather play than the Tigers, that's quite possibly also not his fault.

Not it's not "outright wrong" - You are….

Club has stated more than once through more than one person - That Farah will get every cent he's owed, No matter where he is.

You don't remember the headlines?

 

[2041]

The irony is that backended deal allowed the club to retain other players and remain under the cap. Now the club are banking on Farah again to help them out to retain ET.
Pascoe will need to be very measured when negotiating with Farah in light of what happened about this time last year.

Farah should do the right thing his employer has stated that his services are no longer required ,they have assured him he will be paid what he is owed regardless .What does this tell you about the man ,he has no regard for this club he has again as usual got his nose out of joint and will just sit back and cruise to the end of next season .It amuses me when many keep bringing up the money HELLO he is going to get his money it is not about money it is all about him as usual!

That's outright wrong: the club has stated that it will honour Farah's contract if he doesn't leave - which it has no choice but to do, quite frankly. It has categorically not said that it will still pay him if he leaves.

Farah has clearly not been able to find anyone else who will pay him what the Tigers are contracted to do, so he is exercising his right to be paid what the club agreed to pay him. Why should he walk away from his contracted salary just because his employer was run by a bunch of halfwits three years ago?

I never understand why fans reliably take the side of management in these disputes. Farah negotiated and was given this contract, and he's doing his best to earn it on the field. If he's no longer 'worth' the dollar value, that's not his fault. If no-one else will match the contract, that's not his fault. If he hasn't found anywhere he'd rather play than the Tigers, that's quite possibly also not his fault.

Not it's not "outright wrong" - You are….

Club has stated more than once through more than one person - That Farah will get every cent he's owed, No matter where he is.

You don't remember the headlines?

All the club has said is that it won't breach the contract it gave him. If Farah chooses to 'do the right thing' as you put it and walk away from the contract the club will not pay him out of the goodness of its heart. You're asking him to walk away from money he's owed, which he has absolutely no reason to do.

Think about it for a minute. If the Tigers were actually going to pay him out under any circumstances clearly the sensible thing for Farah to do would be to take the money. Then he could negotiate with anyone as a completely free agent, without the albatross of an overvalued contract round his neck. He could even re-sign with the Tigers on the minimum! Why would he tie himself to a contract if he can realise its value in full any time he wants?

You have completely misunderstood what the club means by paying him whatever. All the Tigers mean is that they aren't going to break the contract - which would be illegal anyway so is largely meaningless. Actually the club has zero leverage here except by persuading gullible mugs like you and the media that panders to them to paint Farah in a bad light.

 

[vlad]

The key to Farah staying in the NRL might be Daley .
If Loz repeats his 'I'd pick him from NSW Cup' quote from last year , Farah will play on to get another blues jersey .

 

[supercoach]

The key to Farah staying in the NRL might be Daley .
If Loz repeats his 'I'd pick him from NSW Cup' quote from last year , Farah will play on to get another blues jersey .

Really who is Daley going to pick in front him??? NSW are not bursting at the seams with hookers. Peat maybe, but is he any better the Farah.

I can see Farah hanging around, 2017 you would think we are more the capable of a finals finish,blues are a chance of a SOO title and he becomes a one team man. Plenty of good reasons to hang around not mention a million bucks

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

Look at it another way - who would want to go to freezing and raining ruddy England for a season unless forced to?

 

[Masterton]

Look at it another way - who would want to go to freezing and raining ruddy England for a season unless forced to?

I dare say he'd get a 3 year contract over there. Travel Europe, go see his favourite soccer team regularly. I can see the appeal.

 

[Regan]

Robbie is owed money by the club and will get it ….its terrible that people on here count his money and say he is hurting the club its the boards fault they did not listen to Mick Potter when he said sign him for two years then review it.... Robbies career at the Tigers has been great the last couple of years his form is not at the same high standards but age gets most players near the end of there career and that is the boards fault you have high risk if you backend an aging players contract

I wonder what will happen when Teddy is 29 and wants a 4 year contract for big money will the board ok it ?

The only problem I have ever had with Robbie was when he ran off the field when he was captain at Campbelltown to the escape hole in the wire fence such a cowardly act he left the club and Mick Potter in a hole and that is why I am no longer a fan of his but to count his money and blame him is wrong when the board ok it

 

[balmain boy]

Great read, thanks TT for the updates its much appreciated

A few points/questions though

. Has the coaching staff ever considered putting Kev back at wing and possibly putting Helata at centre or anyone else?

. If JAC has formally told Melbourne he doesn't want to go, you'd think especially a club like Melbourne who aren't struggling would come to discussions and let him leave. If he does the unlikely and stays with Ryan P coming through the ranks who would make way between Simona and Kev whom are both young blokes?

. With the Farah situation, people would be lying if they would say they would leave and possibly move to England or Newcastle. Farah is entitled to stay and remain a one club player, captain and premiership winner. Show some respect to the bloke, I honestly feel for the man, he's done nothing wrong

. Is Curtis Sironen likely to get a call up soon?

. Who do you think coaches etc; feel is the better half between Moses and Brooks, having to pick one who would be most likely picked to stay?

. Good to hear the Gower rumours have cooled down…. Don't rate him tbh

. Who would be most likely to take over Taylor if he did get the sack, are we still interested in Cleary?

.Good to hear about ET!

Would be great if you could clarify some of these points, if that's possible. Love ya work TT!

I only share what I know to be true at least at that point in time - many issues remain in flux. I try to refrain from sharing unsourced rumours and my only biased opinions - which I declare when I let down my guard. Anyway here's what I know regarding your questions:
Kevvie to wing not on the radar, decision made in pre-season that he would play centre or not at all.
Helata working hard in sprint training, but hard to find a hole for him at the moment, not withstanding salary cap constraints that will keep him out of NRL team in 2016\. Ryan Papenhuyzen considered long term centre from 2018, Kevvie unlikely to be with the club by then. Kevvie will be 27 by then.
JAC I've shared all I know to be true, nothing else to add except my personal opinion that I think this was handled poorly whilst Pascoe was away from work dealing with personal matters. In short we left our run too late. He will be a star for Melbourne even though I know he would prefer to remain here - he's extremely close to his extended family all based in Sydney / NSW.
Sirro is impressing everyone with his new found attitude and Aloiai now under renewed pressure, Unlikely changes will be made but Chee Ham & Sirro are both close, Halatau will not be dropped. Sirro can still look elsewhere despite taking up the contract option in his favour, perhaps a change at the end of season. technically he wsa not resigned but took up an option in his favour.
Moses shading Brooks based on a better pre-season, and his fierce competiveness. To Taylor's credit he welcomes Moses standing up to him re game plans, they actually have a good / improving relationship.
Coach Taylor is growing in the role and O'Neill despite my skepticism has made a difference.
Cleary still preferred Board back up option, but Taylor continues to enjoy full Board support. Pascoe has been transparent - perform and you're safe, fail and you're gone. Pascoe will ultimately shape the clubs future with his new strategic plan ( he's still working under the plan he inherited)
That's it for now nothing else of substance to share.

2 other questions which any info would be much appreciated TT.

If Farah stays next season, from your knowledge is it possible that the club could still re-sign ET? Or would that only be possible if someone else on a hefty pay packet were to leave?

Have you heard anything about the club re-signing Moses Suli? A few clubs were chasing him before he got injured earlier in the season. Looks raw, but a fine centre prospect.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

Look at it another way - who would want to go to freezing and raining ruddy England for a season unless forced to?

I dare say he'd get a 3 year contract over there. Travel Europe, go see his favourite soccer team regularly. I can see the appeal.

Fair enough, in my day there was no favourite o/s soccer team because there was no coverage so I don't feel the appeal - but it has all changed now. I prefer to watch a Lomu over a Maradona - bit more exciting.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

What really do you think Farah will do …what would you do for One Million dollars a year when you only have to work for 30 mins a week and this guy has the balls to want a job after he retires ,bleed the club dry ,destroys any chance of signing any quality players to make a play for any finals appearance and some here actually think this is a good thing well good for you!This guy has been destroying this club for years..

Geez Snake
Its well documented Benji and Robbie took less when they were worth more.. And that was to help the club.
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Poor Robbie will get more daggers aimed at him when he retires..
I feel for the bloke

The fact that he did that, isn't counted :laughing:
At least not until Snake can figure out how to turn that into a Farah conspiracy to
Destroy the club!!!!
Sort of goes in the same basket as getting to keep a fullback in the club when he was about to leave.
What was his name now….....That's right...Tedesco wasn't it?? :blah
Another mortal blow to the Club, by Farah :roll

 

[stevetiger]

goldcoast tiger - has Farah done anything else that bad. I can't believe that we aren't lynching him.

 

[gallagher]

The key to Farah staying in the NRL might be Daley .
If Loz repeats his 'I'd pick him from NSW Cup' quote from last year , Farah will play on to get another blues jersey .

Really who is Daley going to pick in front him??? NSW are not bursting at the seams with hookers. Peat maybe, but is he any better the Farah.

I can see Farah hanging around, 2017 you would think we are more the capable of a finals finish,blues are a chance of a SOO title and he becomes a one team man. Plenty of good reasons to hang around not mention a million bucks

Daley needs to pick someone who may influence the game. Picking Farah is just picking a guy you know will have zero influence on the game. He'd be better off blooding Peats or trying pearce there. Otherwise just pick four backrowers and play Jackson at dummy half.
Farah is no longer an origin player, that is a certainty.

 

[coopy]

The key to Farah staying in the NRL might be Daley .
If Loz repeats his 'I'd pick him from NSW Cup' quote from last year , Farah will play on to get another blues jersey .

Really who is Daley going to pick in front him??? NSW are not bursting at the seams with hookers. Peat maybe, but is he any better the Farah.

I can see Farah hanging around, 2017 you would think we are more the capable of a finals finish,blues are a chance of a SOO title and he becomes a one team man. Plenty of good reasons to hang around not mention a million bucks

Daley needs to pick someone who may influence the game. Picking Farah is just picking a guy you know will have zero influence on the game. He'd be better off blooding Peats or trying pearce there. Otherwise just pick four backrowers and play Jackson at dummy half.
Farah is no longer an origin player, that is a certainty.

I reckon that's a tad harsh. He was one of the Blues better players in games 1 and 2\. Admittedly he wasn't his best in game 3 but he certainly didn't disgrace himself.

 

[supercoach]

The key to Farah staying in the NRL might be Daley .
If Loz repeats his 'I'd pick him from NSW Cup' quote from last year , Farah will play on to get another blues jersey .

Really who is Daley going to pick in front him??? NSW are not bursting at the seams with hookers. Peat maybe, but is he any better the Farah.

I can see Farah hanging around, 2017 you would think we are more the capable of a finals finish,blues are a chance of a SOO title and he becomes a one team man. Plenty of good reasons to hang around not mention a million bucks

Daley needs to pick someone who may influence the game. Picking Farah is just picking a guy you know will have zero influence on the game. He'd be better off blooding Peats or trying pearce there. Otherwise just pick four backrowers and play Jackson at dummy half.
Farah is no longer an origin player, that is a certainty.

I reckon that's a tad harsh. He was one of the Blues better players in games 1 and 2\. Admittedly he wasn't his best in game 3 but he certainly didn't disgrace himself.

Throwing a backorder into D/H is not a smart move, we have seen it at club level blow up in our face more than once

 

[Nelson]

Farah should do the right thing his employer has stated that his services are no longer required ,they have assured him he will be paid what he is owed regardless .What does this tell you about the man ,he has no regard for this club he has again as usual got his nose out of joint and will just sit back and cruise to the end of next season .It amuses me when many keep bringing up the money HELLO he is going to get his money it is not about money it is all about him as usual!

That's outright wrong: the club has stated that it will honour Farah's contract if he doesn't leave - which it has no choice but to do, quite frankly. It has categorically not said that it will still pay him if he leaves.

Farah has clearly not been able to find anyone else who will pay him what the Tigers are contracted to do, so he is exercising his right to be paid what the club agreed to pay him. Why should he walk away from his contracted salary just because his employer was run by a bunch of halfwits three years ago?

I never understand why fans reliably take the side of management in these disputes. Farah negotiated and was given this contract, and he's doing his best to earn it on the field. If he's no longer 'worth' the dollar value, that's not his fault. If no-one else will match the contract, that's not his fault. If he hasn't found anywhere he'd rather play than the Tigers, that's quite possibly also not his fault.

Not it's not "outright wrong" - You are….

Club has stated more than once through more than one person - That Farah will get every cent he's owed, No matter where he is.

You don't remember the headlines?

All the club has said is that it won't breach the contract it gave him. If Farah chooses to 'do the right thing' as you put it and walk away from the contract the club will not pay him out of the goodness of its heart. You're asking him to walk away from money he's owed, which he has absolutely no reason to do.

Think about it for a minute. If the Tigers were actually going to pay him out under any circumstances clearly the sensible thing for Farah to do would be to take the money. Then he could negotiate with anyone as a completely free agent, without the albatross of an overvalued contract round his neck. He could even re-sign with the Tigers on the minimum! Why would he tie himself to a contract if he can realise its value in full any time he wants?

You have completely misunderstood what the club means by paying him whatever. All the Tigers mean is that they aren't going to break the contract - which would be illegal anyway so is largely meaningless. Actually the club has zero leverage here except by persuading gullible mugs like you and the media that panders to them to paint Farah in a bad light.

Are you just at cross purposes or what? Do you expect the club to just release him from his contractual obligations while paying him out the full value of his contract? So zero consideration for the club at all? That would be about the most commercially irresponsible thing they could do in the situation. He's not worth nothing on the open market, so why would they pay the full freight to cut him rather than seeking mitigation? He's not worthless to the club and I don't think that's ever been suggested. The problem is he's being paid well over his market value (current) which cripples the roster in other areas.

You're right in saying that the club have no leverage and can't force him out the door. I don't know what the club have been doing to "persuade gullible mugs…to paint Farah in a bad light" but perhaps you can enlighten us all?

 

[gallagher]

The key to Farah staying in the NRL might be Daley .
If Loz repeats his 'I'd pick him from NSW Cup' quote from last year , Farah will play on to get another blues jersey .

Really who is Daley going to pick in front him??? NSW are not bursting at the seams with hookers. Peat maybe, but is he any better the Farah.

I can see Farah hanging around, 2017 you would think we are more the capable of a finals finish,blues are a chance of a SOO title and he becomes a one team man. Plenty of good reasons to hang around not mention a million bucks

Daley needs to pick someone who may influence the game. Picking Farah is just picking a guy you know will have zero influence on the game. He'd be better off blooding Peats or trying pearce there. Otherwise just pick four backrowers and play Jackson at dummy half.
Farah is no longer an origin player, that is a certainty.

I reckon that's a tad harsh. He was one of the Blues better players in games 1 and 2\. Admittedly he wasn't his best in game 3 but he certainly didn't disgrace himself.

No he didn't disgrace himself. But he was ineffective. Even his most ardent supporters described his origin series as 'solid' or ' he did nothing wrong' ,
We need better than that at Origin level. I can't see why we'd pick him again

 

[gallagher]

Really who is Daley going to pick in front him??? NSW are not bursting at the seams with hookers. Peat maybe, but is he any better the Farah.

I can see Farah hanging around, 2017 you would think we are more the capable of a finals finish,blues are a chance of a SOO title and he becomes a one team man. Plenty of good reasons to hang around not mention a million bucks

Daley needs to pick someone who may influence the game. Picking Farah is just picking a guy you know will have zero influence on the game. He'd be better off blooding Peats or trying pearce there. Otherwise just pick four backrowers and play Jackson at dummy half.
Farah is no longer an origin player, that is a certainty.

I reckon that's a tad harsh. He was one of the Blues better players in games 1 and 2\. Admittedly he wasn't his best in game 3 but he certainly didn't disgrace himself.

Throwing a backorder into D/H is not a smart move, we have seen it at club level blow up in our face more than once

Thats a fair call. I probably exaggerated a bit. But I'd still go with Peats or Pearce.

 

[Club_Sandwich]

Peats absolutely has to play SOO next year