Farah to SOUTH SYDNEY in 2017..OFFICIAL..

[barra]

if souths pay 450k, and we pay 500k + 250k for this year. shouldnt only 500k be on our cap for next year?

250k is just from this years money which we still owe him, correct me if im misunderstanding

pH', the way I understand it is that working on those figures, Souths is in the cap for 450k and we'd be in the cap for 750k because back-loading is counted on the year it is paid up.

That's all if he is contracted for 950k for next year…

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

Money well spent. Cancer costs a fair bit to remove.

Beats me who they won 3/4 of last games played with RF - maybe it went into remission.

 

[barra]

Does it really matter ???

The point was to get rid of Farah…that was their main goal. It was always going to cost us minimum $500-$600k.

Ballin and Grant are on subsidized contracts from Manly & Souths.....we will probably pickup another 2-3 players in the off season ( maybe 1-2 of them could also be subsidized )......hence it will all work itself out in the wash. Out of a $6M salary cap we should still have some money to attract a few solid players.

2018 we are clean so its all coming to an end. For the WT not having the Farah/Taylor distraction is the 1st positive.....we can't have a war within the club.

I do feel for Robbie F....he is a club legend....but no player is bigger than the club. In saying that how can we build a culture in the club.....if we don't respect our past. Difficult questions....I'm sure Melb wouldn't treat Smith/Cronk or Slater the way Farah was treated.

But we need to move on.......pay whatever it costs and start moving forward to 2017.

Agree with this point of view re contracts and costs.

But I don't think you can compare our outfit with the Storm. Firstly, they would never have been so dumb to backload contracts the way we did.

And re building a culture here, maybe we don't want a culture of ego, sooking, and boys' club??

 

[jirskyr]

Reading between the lines of other reports, I think we are footing $500k towards next year's contract, plus $250k which is owed to Robbie in back payments.

So yeah, not a lot of change left out of the transaction to throw at anybody else.

This is why back-ending contracts is so dangerous, and hopefully we wont be doing this anymore in the future.

Spot-on Abe. It's a big cost, but a significant amount is back-payment, i.e. he's already played the matches in previous years and now the payments are catching up.

So rather than just paying Farah a bucket of money in 2017, we are paying him a proportion for work already done, plus a proportion towards his salary at his new club.

There are some people who seem to think removing Farah was primarily about saving money - clearly that is not the case, because no other team would stump the bill, so they are moving him on regardless of cost. That should tell you something pretty clear about how much the club wanted to move Farah on.

The reality of player transfers is once you are adamant to move a player on, unless the other team is desperate to fill a spot in their roster, you have the weak position for negotiations. Hence why we were paying our Blair, Tim Grant and ET paid out by Panthers etc.

This was not about saving $200K. That being said, that is not an insignificant amount of money and if it can be used to retain or upgrade an existing good player, it is well spent.

 

[newtiger]

No one really knows who is paying what unless someone here is RF Ayoub or Pascoe

 

[Doc_Tiger]

Money well spent. Cancer costs a fair bit to remove.

Beats me who they won 3/4 of last games played with RF .

:laughing:

 

[PrattenParkMagpie]

Strange that confidential negotiations have found there way into the Media…If true the NRL should be having a close look at the new Clubs books...

Are any of the figures even true, he was supposedly earning $950,000 for 2016-17 with $250,000 of that having been deferred from 2014-15.

However if we go back to when Farah re-signed in 2013 it was widely reported as being $3.5m over 4 years, which equates to $875,000 per season (massive overs thanks to Ayoub and the supposed interest from the Eels), however if he is on $950,000 in 2016 and 2017 that leaves $800,000 in payments for each of 2014 and 2015, or $75,000 being deferred for each of the first 2 years, a big difference to the $250,000 it ballooned into..

What can we really believe

 

[sideline_eye]

This article cannot be true. If Farah was contracted to us for $950,000, the NRL would not allow Souths to register him for their contribution of $200,000\. They would have to contribute whatever the value of a SOO player is - probably at least $450,000 - leaving our contribution at $500,000\. This is why the Roosters couldn't get Robbie for the low amount that they were offering earlier this year. (plus a player revolt if he went there!)

 

[matchball]

Rothfield is having a big swipe at Taylor today about Robbie.
How predictable from the beetroot. Paid lackey.

 

[Newtown]

And people actually believe what jurnos write in sport sections. What ever agreement Farah and the club came to you can bet your bottom dollar there was a confidential clause in the settlement. Anything these Jurnos are sprouting is purely speculation

It is fact, there is a confidentiality clause in the contract.

 

[Newtown]

Rothfield is having a big swipe at Taylor today about Robbie.
How predictable from the beetroot. Paid lackey.

Rothfield is so low. He just came back this week after suspended by DT for three weeks re his dealings with the brothel king and barred big punter, Hayson.

 

[Newtown]

Money well spent. Cancer costs a fair bit to remove.

Beats me who they won 3/4 of last games played with RF .

:laughing:

They won most of their games this year when Farah wasn't playing.

 

[Needaname]

Firstly, read the article.
Farah will be paid 1.2 next year in total.

On that basis Souths cannot register him under there cap for under his nominal value.
$750,000 from us requires $450,000 from them.
Essentially works out that they have managed to sign Farah to a 2yr contract for the same amount we would have been paying him for 1 season.
Smart.
But then again they are paying almost 1/2 a mil for an over the hill veteran till he is almost 35.
Confusing for me considering Souths finally got their act together once Damien Cook
Started playing 80mins of hooker in the back end of the year.

So no it's not about money, the club clearly wanted to force an end to the culture of the last decade of the tigers.

But then again, you've got to ask yourself would Farah have just played one more year of football with us providing he has just signed to play 2 years to play on with Souths.

The club has decided to accelerate this process by one year because we all know at the end of next year we would have been kicking tins if Farah re signed for another season for lets say $500,000 and we may have lost a promising junior or influential senior player as the outcome.

For mine, I wish we could have come to an agreement last year but then again that would have been 2 yrs of less than $750,000 on the cap.

Finally we can move on and we have $200,000 to sign a couple of depth players.

Remember the end of last season where we kept saying to ourselves, we need to sign players but we have no money, well I expect this off season to be very similar in that regard.
There will be a few players looking for opportunity to play in a growing side.

We will have enough money to secure who we need to.

 

[upthetigers]

Where does it say that moving on Farah was all about saving cap money? Sure, it may have been part of it, but if he was Cameron Smith I doubt they'd be trying to move him on.. I do feel bad for Farah, was sad seeing him walk around Leichhardt to farewell the club and fans, but maybe there really were issues.. Yes he's a good player, but I think it's more than a coincidence that the team really seemed to lift and unite after he'd been dropped.

Is this some kind of sick joke? :roll Yeah, they did so well after he was dropped :bash

 

[Swordy]

Taylor had his power play seven weeks ago.
This is the inevitable outcome.
Paying 12% of our salary cap for nothing???
To me it's ridiculous.
Anyway plenty on this forum have supported Taylor in this, although very quite on this thread I notice!!

I agree with what you have written. As you have noted, the absence of the JT fan boys is noticeable. :laughing:

It's not about being a fan boy for anyone in particular.
It's about supporting the club regardless of who is in charge.

Give him a chance. I don't think he is the best but we would do worse by sacking him. If we sacked him now who with a better resume would come here?

Let the contract run it's course and start the interview process free of all the drama the revolving door of coaches does.

We've had two years of putrescence under JT. He hasn't made the 8 and he does not get another year unless he did. We'll see now if Pascoe and the Board are serious about taking the club forward or are they happy with the mediocrity.

Call me a JT fanboy if you like, I couldn't care less. What I do know is that at whatever price, it was worth every cent!!! Free at last.

 

[Telltails]

Well the first game free of Farah was a bit of disaster - can only get better I guess whatever miracle people expect is going to happen now he has gone.
Same coach, pretty much the same roster, not sure exactly what huge difference its going to make

 

[gallagher]

I agree with what you have written. As you have noted, the absence of the JT fan boys is noticeable. :laughing:

It's not about being a fan boy for anyone in particular.
It's about supporting the club regardless of who is in charge.

Give him a chance. I don't think he is the best but we would do worse by sacking him. If we sacked him now who with a better resume would come here?

Let the contract run it's course and start the interview process free of all the drama the revolving door of coaches does.

We've had two years of putrescence under JT. He hasn't made the 8 and he does not get another year unless he did. We'll see now if Pascoe and the Board are serious about taking the club forward or are they happy with the mediocrity.

Call me a JT fanboy if you like, I couldn't care less. What I do know is that at whatever price, it was worth every cent!!! Free at last.

Agreed. I don't care what It cost.

 

[Doc_Tiger]

I agree with what you have written. As you have noted, the absence of the JT fan boys is noticeable. :laughing:

It's not about being a fan boy for anyone in particular.
It's about supporting the club regardless of who is in charge.

Give him a chance. I don't think he is the best but we would do worse by sacking him. If we sacked him now who with a better resume would come here?

Let the contract run it's course and start the interview process free of all the drama the revolving door of coaches does.

We've had two years of putrescence under JT. He hasn't made the 8 and he does not get another year unless he did. We'll see now if Pascoe and the Board are serious about taking the club forward or are they happy with the mediocrity.

Call me a JT fanboy if you like, I couldn't care less. What I do know is that at whatever price, it was worth every cent!!! Free at last.

Calling fans JT fanboys makes them feel good. They don't get that just because we support the coach doesn't necessarily mean we think he is the clubs saviour. I mean, I'm not convinced he's much of a coach at all. But the fact is, he's the coach and we can't keep changing coaches as we have been. I'd rather we still had Potter. I'd rather a lot of people than JT, but he's what we have and it's great that the club has decided to stick with him for stability. The problem (as the club sees it) has now gone.

As a matter of interest - does anyone know if RF's still sitting on the scoreboard? Thought we might find him this morning trying to create more headlines before he leaves.

 

[magpiecol]

Journos get feed alot of information. The geniuses at wests tigers have off loaded him for $500k. So he is probably getting another $450kvfrom the rabbits. What the geniuses forgot was $250k they still owed him. Thats what he would have wanted up front. So it counts towards our salary cap meaning we only save $200k. So Farah next year is earning $1.15 million, one of the highest paid players. Well done tigers, what a debacle and an embarrasemwnt.

There is a confidentuality clause in the agreement. So what you are spewing is pure bile and speculation.

You do not have a clue and neither does anyone else, except the parties concerned.

:crazy

 

[tigers2005]

Journos get feed alot of information. The geniuses at wests tigers have off loaded him for $500k. So he is probably getting another $450kvfrom the rabbits. What the geniuses forgot was $250k they still owed him. Thats what he would have wanted up front. So it counts towards our salary cap meaning we only save $200k. So Farah next year is earning $1.15 million, one of the highest paid players. Well done tigers, what a debacle and an embarrasemwnt.

There is a confidentuality clause in the agreement. So what you are spewing is pure bile and speculation.

You do not have a clue and neither does anyone else, except the parties concerned.

:crazy

You know this because you read the contract lol. News flash almost every deal thats done is announced on one media form or another. They hayne deal, corey norman, the number or years and dollars always come out.

Oh and btw, you know they dont play footy at lidcombe oval anymore.