FITZHENRY YOUR THOUGHTS

@crouching_tiger said:
@hybrid_tiger said:
One game. And that just sums up Sheens' ridiculous selection policy anyway, so hardly a point in your trolling argument.

Lucky for you hey…because you got your wish after his one game...John Morris for 3 years after that..

Not my wish champ.

Both Morris and Fitzhenry have plenty in common though, both are tagged as utilities, both are mediocre at best and both are picked by Sheens every week.
 
@hybrid_tiger said:
@Yossarian said:
But we're talking about picking someone on a bench who can adequately fill in for a number of positions. Once again, it's your opinion he can only play wing to an NRL standard, not a fact so It's not a flawed argument at all. It's a perfectly valid argument to suggest someone is capable of coming on and playing a range of positions to a fair degree. But it's all about how you rate their ability to do so - I think he's of a reasonable enough standard to play these positions, you don't.

You having a different opinion on this doesn't invalidate the argument at all.

I'd love to know who else besides yourself, Tim Sheens and CT thinks that Fitzhenry is capable of playing the following positions to a fair degree:

Fullback
Five-eighth
Halfback
Hooker
Lock

Fitzhenry is not a utility. This is not an opinion, it's a fact.

You obviously don't know the difference between fact and opinion.

Look I'm not actually advocating picking DF, just suggesting that some people think his ability to play other positions is good enough to mean he could replace a number of our team should they get injured. You don't think he's worth a pinch of salt outside of wing - fair enough, that's your opinion.
 
:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: That's it…...it becomes so clear now,,,,,

Only in the world of footy cards can Fitzhernry be considered the next immortal.......best utility on the planet.....

So pumped now....the pressure is certainly on Daniel Fitzhenry.....I hope he can live up to the hype...

Notice he wasn't training in Beau's vacant spot.....so it will be the bench once again for Fitzy...

Thank God ..........cause if anything where to happen to Robbie we're covered.....
 
Fitzy was only five-eighth in the World Club Challenge because the messiah was injured. Benji being injured and Fitzy at five-eighth are 2 very big reasons why we lost that game! Whoever is on the right wing against the Roosters this week (Fitzy or Brown) better get ready for the cross kicks by the Roosters.
 
@Yossarian said:
@hybrid_tiger said:
@Yossarian said:
But we're talking about picking someone on a bench who can adequately fill in for a number of positions. Once again, it's your opinion he can only play wing to an NRL standard, not a fact so It's not a flawed argument at all. It's a perfectly valid argument to suggest someone is capable of coming on and playing a range of positions to a fair degree. But it's all about how you rate their ability to do so - I think he's of a reasonable enough standard to play these positions, you don't.

You having a different opinion on this doesn't invalidate the argument at all.

I'd love to know who else besides yourself, Tim Sheens and CT thinks that Fitzhenry is capable of playing the following positions to a fair degree:

Fullback
Five-eighth
Halfback
Hooker
Lock

Fitzhenry is not a utility. This is not an opinion, it's a fact.

You obviously don't know the difference between fact and opinion.

Look I'm not actually advocating picking DF, just suggesting that some people think his ability to play other positions is good enough to mean he could replace a number of our team should they get injured. You don't think he's worth a pinch of salt outside of wing - fair enough, that's your opinion.

I know full well the difference, but that's completely irrelevant.

I think anyone who think he is good enough in the positions listed above either have never seen him play, or aren't watching the same game I am.

Daniel Fitzhenry is not a utility.
 
:laughing: Oh Dear….those things are deathtraps.....

Innk's right ...Should be FITZHENRY- RANDOM THOUGHTS
 
@hybrid_tiger said:
@Yossarian said:
@hybrid_tiger said:
I'd love to know who else besides yourself, Tim Sheens and CT thinks that Fitzhenry is capable of playing the following positions to a fair degree:

Fullback
Five-eighth
Halfback
Hooker
Lock

Fitzhenry is not a utility. This is not an opinion, it's a fact.

You obviously don't know the difference between fact and opinion.

Look I'm not actually advocating picking DF, just suggesting that some people think his ability to play other positions is good enough to mean he could replace a number of our team should they get injured. You don't think he's worth a pinch of salt outside of wing - fair enough, that's your opinion.

I know full well the difference, but that's completely irrelevant.

I think anyone who think he is good enough in the positions listed above either have never seen him play, or aren't watching the same game I am.

Daniel Fitzhenry is not a utility.

Ah the old "You disagree with me so you know crap about football" line… Would I pick his as starting centre? Of course not. Starting hooker? Nope. Do I think he can come up and plug a hole for almost an entire game if someone gets injured? Yeah I do. Would I pick him on the bench? Probably not - if I had to choose a back I'd go for Brown.
 
Hybrid,some people are happy with mediocrity,Sheens,Simmons,CT and Yossarian,but what can you do,but just laugh,anyone with any knowledge of the game(just ask any supporter from any other team) will tell you,he is a winger,and nothing else.
Morris is more of a utility than Fitzy,and he got a belted for 3 seasons here,in fact if I had to pick between Morris and Fitzy for the 14 spot,JMo would get my vote,that is how high I rate Fitzy
 
@851 said:
Morris is more of a utility than Fitzy,and he got a belted for 3 seasons here,in fact if I had to pick between Morris and Fitzy for the 14 spot,JMo would get my vote,that is how high I rate Fitzy

So would I because Morris could have actually played lock when he came on. His defence was good. I just didn't like him in the halves.
 
@851 said:
Hybrid,some people are happy with mediocrity,Sheens,Simmons,CT and Yossarian,but what can you do,but just laugh,anyone with any knowledge of the game(just ask any supporter from any other team) will tell you,he is a winger,and nothing else.
Morris is more of a utility than Fitzy,and he got a belted for 3 seasons here,in fact if I had to pick between Morris and Fitzy for the 14 spot,JMo would get my vote,that is how high I rate Fitzy

I typed out a massive reply and the stupid computer refreshed itself for some reason I lost it all! Uggh!!

To summarise it, I mentioned Proton and thanked them for the free tickets they were handing out at the game, apologised for being off topic, then stated that basically a fitzy topic is rarely a serious one anyway. Then went on about my view on this topic of Fitzy - which was long, so I'm not typing it again.

Basically I agree with what 851 has said, and also what Alien said about Morris. I also would prefer Morris > Fitzy as a utility but not in the halves. Nothing against Fitzy - I like him, on the wing I guess but I don't think we need him.

So we get to look forward to lots of pointless topics about the games he saves in his 6 minutes on field. But I'm sure he will claw himself up with his amazing utility value into a starting spot in any number of positions :unamused:
 
CT that's a load of crap and u no it. What ur saying has nothing to do with fitzy utility value he was only there because the uncertainty of lotis fitness, and if you try deny that your as dumb as you look. Every position fitzy has played bar his wing position has been poor, hence his uk club looking for a fulltime hooker. With a full fit loti and TNT fitzy has no place at our club, like I said ild rather look to the future and not the past.
 
@851 said:
Hybrid,some people are happy with mediocrity,Sheens,Simmons,CT and Yossarian,but what can you do,but just laugh,anyone with any knowledge of the game(just ask any supporter from any other team) will tell you,he is a winger,and nothing else.
Morris is more of a utility than Fitzy,and he got a belted for 3 seasons here,in fact if I had to pick between Morris and Fitzy for the 14 spot,JMo would get my vote,that is how high I rate Fitzy

Another "anyone who disagrees with me knows stuff all about the game" post. If you bothered to read my posts you'd see I'm not saying Fitzy should be picked at all. All I've said is that the idea of having a utility on the bench is a reasonable one and if you are going to have one, Fitzy fits the bill.

I've never suggested picking DF in the run on team, even as a winger. At least not in 2010.
 
@Yossarian said:
@851 said:
Hybrid,some people are happy with mediocrity,Sheens,Simmons,CT and Yossarian,but what can you do,but just laugh,anyone with any knowledge of the game(just ask any supporter from any other team) will tell you,he is a winger,and nothing else.
Morris is more of a utility than Fitzy,and he got a belted for 3 seasons here,in fact if I had to pick between Morris and Fitzy for the 14 spot,JMo would get my vote,that is how high I rate Fitzy

Another "anyone who disagrees with me knows stuff all about the game" post. If you bothered to read my posts you'd see I'm not saying Fitzy should be picked at all. All I've said is that the idea of having a utility on the bench is a reasonable one and if you are going to have one, Fitzy fits the bill.

I've never suggested picking DF in the run on team, even as a winger. At least not in 2010.

Yossarian,

The point is that no one can understand how you could bill Fitzy as a utility let alone the best utility. Being equally crap in all positions does not make you a utility. Whether that is opinion or fact is not the point. The point is that most judges think Fitzy is rubbish and I tend agree.
 
@Yossarian said:
Ah the old "You disagree with me so you know crap about football" line… Would I pick his as starting centre? Of course not. Starting hooker? Nope. Do I think he can come up and plug a hole for almost an entire game if someone gets injured? Yeah I do. Would I pick him on the bench? Probably not - if I had to choose a back I'd go for Brown.

Someone who can come up and plug a hole for almost an entire game if someone gets injured is a utility.

Daniel Fitzhenry is NOT a utility.

If the idea of having a utility on the bench is a reasonable one, you pick a utility, not a mediocre winger. So Fitzhenry doesn't fit the bill.
 
@REHAB said:
CT that's a load of crap and u no it. What ur saying has nothing to do with fitzy utility value he was only there because the uncertainty of lotis fitness, and if you try deny that your as dumb as you look. Every position fitzy has played bar his wing position has been poor, hence his uk club looking for a fulltime hooker. With a full fit loti and TNT fitzy has no place at our club, like I said ild rather look to the future and not the past.

Oh then that explains why Fitzhenry played hooker during the Foundation Cup, Mackay trial, was listed on the wing for the Sharks trial, and came on the field the same time Lote was STILL out on the field last Monday to play 2nd receiver and replaced a forward…
Only person looking dumb is you..
 
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