@ron burgandy said:
Classic Ron - if only Fitzy had have realised that earlier… He must be kicking himself!
Fitzy blitzes fans in the proper forum
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Classic Ron - if only Fitzy had have realised that earlier… He must be kicking himself!
I don't think us fans should be whinging about Sheens sledge towards us. We do a lot of "I told you so" stuff on this forum after Sheens gets things wrong. In his opinion Fitzy was great last night at fullback, we won, and he is having his moment in the sun. Fair enough in my opinion have a shot back. Although its probably worst "great" performance i have ever seen from an individual if that makes any sense. Sheens has history with this sort of stuff. He attacked the fans after Morris played a slightly above average game last season.
My only problem is by attacking the fans Sheens is showing he is distracted and under pressure. Attacking the clubs fans is pretty bizzarre, and shows a man who is feeling the heat, and perhaps trying to prove a point overs the fans. I would of thought a coach with over 600 games experience would simply knuckle down and let the results at the end of the season speak for themselves. Weird.
My only problem is by attacking the fans Sheens is showing he is distracted and under pressure. Attacking the clubs fans is pretty bizzarre, and shows a man who is feeling the heat, and perhaps trying to prove a point overs the fans. I would of thought a coach with over 600 games experience would simply knuckle down and let the results at the end of the season speak for themselves. Weird.
@ron burgandy said:
Ron…don't hold you breath....did you renew I thought you were out on protest...
Eddie says it well...
Paris_Cobbs
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I am a huge supporter of this forum and absolutely support everyone's right to express their opinions - that's what the forum is for. This article bothers me, though, because it suggests that, as WT fans we are not prepared to give our support to every WT player.
As far as I am concerned, anyone who runs on the field in a WT jersey has my 100% support, whether I agreed with his selection or not. If you don't think Fitzy is the best player for the spot, express that opinion on the forum, then get out to the ground on the weekend if you can and scream your lungs out for Fitzy to do well.
The attacks on Fitzy have become personal, and that isn't necessary, or fair. He is the club's second-highest try scorer and deserves respect for that.
Sheens is right to support his players and it would be wrong of him to criticise them in public no matter how they play. Hence the 'so-called fans' remark. My own view is that Fitzy will drop to the bench or State Cup when Taniela returns, and that has always been the plan. The fact that the team has suffered so many injuries has caused Sheens to select Fitzy for his experience. He did well on Friday night.
In the article, Fitzy says he doesn't read the forum - I hope he is telling the truth because some of what has been written on here about him is hurtful and personal. I want him to know that he has my unwavering support on the field, whether I think he is the best full back in the club or not. Go the Fitz. Go the Tigers.
As far as I am concerned, anyone who runs on the field in a WT jersey has my 100% support, whether I agreed with his selection or not. If you don't think Fitzy is the best player for the spot, express that opinion on the forum, then get out to the ground on the weekend if you can and scream your lungs out for Fitzy to do well.
The attacks on Fitzy have become personal, and that isn't necessary, or fair. He is the club's second-highest try scorer and deserves respect for that.
Sheens is right to support his players and it would be wrong of him to criticise them in public no matter how they play. Hence the 'so-called fans' remark. My own view is that Fitzy will drop to the bench or State Cup when Taniela returns, and that has always been the plan. The fact that the team has suffered so many injuries has caused Sheens to select Fitzy for his experience. He did well on Friday night.
In the article, Fitzy says he doesn't read the forum - I hope he is telling the truth because some of what has been written on here about him is hurtful and personal. I want him to know that he has my unwavering support on the field, whether I think he is the best full back in the club or not. Go the Fitz. Go the Tigers.
simonthetiger
New member
Very well said,agree 100%.
Tiger_Watto
New member
@stryker said:
My 8yr old boy reads these forums and as a result, they have influenced his opinions of certain players. As a result, he was Boo'ing players on the Weekend of the Eels game, including Wests Tigers players. I sat him down and made it very clear that Boo'ing isnt acceptable behaviour.
If anyone thinks boo'ing is acceptable, I can only presume they are bad role models in society…
S
system
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Don't see the bid deal with this article.
We all have our opinions, Sheens included. We express our opinions on the performances of players and our coach by the criteria we set for them based on our expectations. Tim Sheens is doing the same thing from where I sit and I am doing what players and Sheens should do and ignoring it and using my own yard stick to judge whether I am a fan or not.
I doubt Sheens reads the forums himself but no doubt someone from the club would as part of their role to make sure there is no severe defamation etc. Even if he does that is not too much of a concern for me.
I understand the initial reaction by fans like hybrid because of the inflammatory language used. I shared the reaction in some way but after reading it again it is very clear that it was phrased in such a way to illicit a response. If we can't take it out when the tables are turned than maybe we shouldn't dish it out.
It is unreasonable to criticise by standards you set yet refuse to be measured by the standards that the same people you criticise in the first place.
I just don't see the need for the offence. You are doing exactly what the statement was put out there to achieve. Statements against the clubs players, coaching staff and administration have been ramped up in the vitriol stakes since this article and it makes this forum seem like a home of reactionaries and more interested in how they are perceived than they are about the team they support.
Media is a game and alot of you need to realise that and re-engage the brain
Just my opinion
We all have our opinions, Sheens included. We express our opinions on the performances of players and our coach by the criteria we set for them based on our expectations. Tim Sheens is doing the same thing from where I sit and I am doing what players and Sheens should do and ignoring it and using my own yard stick to judge whether I am a fan or not.
I doubt Sheens reads the forums himself but no doubt someone from the club would as part of their role to make sure there is no severe defamation etc. Even if he does that is not too much of a concern for me.
I understand the initial reaction by fans like hybrid because of the inflammatory language used. I shared the reaction in some way but after reading it again it is very clear that it was phrased in such a way to illicit a response. If we can't take it out when the tables are turned than maybe we shouldn't dish it out.
It is unreasonable to criticise by standards you set yet refuse to be measured by the standards that the same people you criticise in the first place.
I just don't see the need for the offence. You are doing exactly what the statement was put out there to achieve. Statements against the clubs players, coaching staff and administration have been ramped up in the vitriol stakes since this article and it makes this forum seem like a home of reactionaries and more interested in how they are perceived than they are about the team they support.
Media is a game and alot of you need to realise that and re-engage the brain
Just my opinion
innsaneink
Well-known member
I dunno smeg…when you make a conscious decision to be a public figure, you should expect some criticism on your performances from time to time, it happens every day with politics, religion, entertainment, community leaders etc.
I have been critical of Fitzy at times (minimally this year I hasten to add) but when I financially support an organisation and so called professionals who are on bloody good coin , I dont really like it when i'm included in a broad swipe by a leading figure of that organisation that my $$$'s help to keep the personnel at that club, and the club viable.
*Without the fans, the coaches and players are working like the rest of us....
*Without the coaches and players, the rest of us are still working as per usual.
When they bring in a professional supporters association and we as supporters start to recieve the coin the players + coaches are getting, then they can throw some mud back.
I have been critical of Fitzy at times (minimally this year I hasten to add) but when I financially support an organisation and so called professionals who are on bloody good coin , I dont really like it when i'm included in a broad swipe by a leading figure of that organisation that my $$$'s help to keep the personnel at that club, and the club viable.
*Without the fans, the coaches and players are working like the rest of us....
*Without the coaches and players, the rest of us are still working as per usual.
When they bring in a professional supporters association and we as supporters start to recieve the coin the players + coaches are getting, then they can throw some mud back.
It staggers me that anyone at the club would bother to troll forums. If you think you may not like what you will see, why would you bother? If you are certain that any criticism (constructive or otherwise)on forums is not going to be helpful, then why bother to read them?
What would one expect to read from the fans after 4 straight losses and 4 years without playing 1 game in the post-season? A plethora of "We love Tim Sheens" threads?
What would one expect to read from the fans after 4 straight losses and 4 years without playing 1 game in the post-season? A plethora of "We love Tim Sheens" threads?
supercoach
Well-known member
I think we are seeing a person that has had total control over everything including the media starting to loose his grip and people from all quarters are starting to ask questions and he is reacting. He may slip through the next few weeks but he is in for one hell of a couple months running into the semi finals. Where their is smoke their is fire, Sheens is under the pump and should have been two years ago!!
bonstonker
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my take is that the journo is talking about the forums and sheens is talking about the fans at the ground in regards to fitzy.
i never hear the boos on the tv.
but plenty on here say fitzy gets plenty of boos at the ground.
is it at all possible sheens hears them too.
think it's funny how big people act on forums and what they expect from sportsmen and women but one little negative thrown back at them and they all start crying.
harden up
i never hear the boos on the tv.
but plenty on here say fitzy gets plenty of boos at the ground.
is it at all possible sheens hears them too.
think it's funny how big people act on forums and what they expect from sportsmen and women but one little negative thrown back at them and they all start crying.
harden up
@bonstonker said:
so true…he certainly hears them coming up stairs the WestSFS....so much so they built him a special lift at Cambo...
I'm sure a lot of the abuse hurled as the left the SCG wouldn't have fell on dear ears either...
simonthetiger
New member
I can understand the fans are frustrated….I am at times too.
But I am pretty sure its half way though the season and we are in the top 8.
IMO its way too early to be calling for heads.
But I am pretty sure its half way though the season and we are in the top 8.
IMO its way too early to be calling for heads.
innsaneink
Well-known member
@bonstonker said:
Before they run out each and every player is introduced individually to the crowd with a large image and personal sponsors on the big screen…theres usually booing when his name is broadcast (not by me I may add)
One swallow doesn't make a summer… Fitzy had a reasonably solid game, and if he was to play like he did in the second half on Friday night for the rest of the year, I'd personally have no problem with him remaining in the side.
The fact that Sheens has taken pot shots at us though for actually voicing our frustrations about **our** club and he is now having a "I told you so" moment shows that results and a top 8 finish are coming second to vindicating a decision after one good performance when in reality the preceeding 9 weren't so flash.
The fact that Sheens has taken pot shots at us though for actually voicing our frustrations about **our** club and he is now having a "I told you so" moment shows that results and a top 8 finish are coming second to vindicating a decision after one good performance when in reality the preceeding 9 weren't so flash.
