Footballing Robots.

[happy_tiger]

Of course focusing on defence is a good thing you pair of geeks, none of us are disputing that. What most of us are saying is that if Taylor and co think the ridiculous attack strategy of 5 x one out hit ups followed by a clearing kick will aid our defence they will be sadly mistaken.

Throwing almost zero attack at a professional Rugby League side will result in the following:

1\. The opposition defenders will easily read the attack resulting in far more dominant tackles slowing down our play the ball.

2\. This will also lead to more of our runners being blindsided in potentialy injury causing hits as their minds are on simply catching, taking the tackle and playing the ball without error. This single focus will take them out of what's happening on their periphery.

3\. Due to the ruck being slowed down, the opposition line will always be set resulting in us needing low percentage plays to score.

4\. The opposition lose very low energy levels defending which means they have higher than normal levels for their attack.

5\. We lose field position

6\. We continue losing games.

Concentration on only one facet of the game will not bring success. Playing negatively will not guarantee victories. You have to excell in both areas to win.

And as JT has said he thinks we can't do both successfully enough , consistently enough so is making defence the priority

Tell me apart from the Dogs game when we have successfully put more than say 25 minutes together When we are left to play without structure they slip straight into the NYC make up that you yourself said you hate

In 12 months time nothing seems to change I'll drive you down to Sydney myself to kidnap Taylor

We aren't going to agree Stryker simple as that

Winning games is important yes , changing the entire culture is more important in my opinion

I would rather see some short term pain but for our club to come out a better unit overall

Your comments in regards to our attack are true , but we need to get the opposition going backwards and controlling the ruck with our attack and our defence

If our defence controls the ruck we control the entire game , you seem to forget that and then we can play the game at our own speed our own way

Our defence can become our attack in a matter of speaking

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

I'm not sure I read this right, Birds performances are average???????????
If that's average, well I'll take him any day. And I have seen most of his games,
He's a hell of a lot better than our two Koala bears , and if him and our two kids were on the open market, I know who'd be in demand.

It's one thing to be blinkered about our kids , but if you can't recognise the talent that Bird is, then your football knowledge is severely limited. Bird has had a spectacular introduction to first grade, whereas our two are living off a reputation from previous years , which is rapidly running out., as is probably their value. Which brings into question, whether the money paid to them is going to come back and bite us on the bum in Salary cap problems if we have to recruit a new 5/8 or half down the track.
I'm sick of the excuses about them. They're in first grade and they will be judged on their performances in that grade , it's convenient for their fans to be able to blame Taylor for their crap games, but he's not out there making them throw bad passes and missing tackles( Moses game high missed tackles again in Cows game)

Personally I think you are over-reacting to Bird, but you are entitled to your opinion.

Not saying he doesn't have some talent, but I'm not sold on him as the games next biggest talent and football careers take a long time to put together.

I'll tell you this: Jack Bird is NOT in the Top 20 for tries scored, try assists, line-break assists, line breaks, offloads or kicks in play. I know Bird is a few games short (7 played) but Brooks is in 3 of those lists.

Jack Bird 7 games
Brooks 30 games. He'd want be higher up in something, Brooks isn't the one I'm most worried about, it's moses
You forgot their position in the missed tackle counts

Moses is the new whipping boy!!!

Keep a note of this post GCT - I'll back Moses any day to end up as a much better 5/8 than Bird.
Bird will probably end up as a lock I think.

Nothing's changed, since Moses showed that he's not up to first grade, I have had the opinion that he was brought up way to soon, Brooks has at least shown that he can ( at times) handle it better than Moses can , and has a body that can handle it better also. I have also pointed out that I don't blame Mitchell at all , but I think that the club has a lot to answer for, for putting him in this position. All the fan club can come up with is what a fantastic player he is .
Sorry I can only go on what I see, not what I want to happen 6 months from now
He's not a whipping boy, I just would hate to see him belted out of first grade to satisfy the fan club, he's not the first to be pushed to far, and won't be the last

And I'd much rather see HIS welfare looked after , and for him to be brought up when he has the body for it, or do you think that an 80 kilo body can stand up to the Cassiano's and the Frank Pritchards of the game for long,
Whos welfare are you interested in???
The expectations on him are way to high,

 

[stevetiger]

Of course focusing on defence is a good thing you pair of geeks, none of us are disputing that. What most of us are saying is that if Taylor and co think the ridiculous attack strategy of 5 x one out hit ups followed by a clearing kick will aid our defence they will be sadly mistaken.

Throwing almost zero attack at a professional Rugby League side will result in the following:

1\. The opposition defenders will easily read the attack resulting in far more dominant tackles slowing down our play the ball.

2\. This will also lead to more of our runners being blindsided in potentialy injury causing hits as their minds are on simply catching, taking the tackle and playing the ball without error. This single focus will take them out of what's happening on their periphery.

3\. Due to the ruck being slowed down, the opposition line will always be set resulting in us needing low percentage plays to score.

4\. The opposition lose very low energy levels defending which means they have higher than normal levels for their attack.

5\. We lose field position

6\. We continue losing games.

Concentration on only one facet of the game will not bring success. Playing negatively will not guarantee victories. You have to excell in both areas to win.

Great post.

Negative footy will not lead to winning games now or in the future. Its dumb.

 

[jirskyr]

Benji just made an interesting comment on NRL 360 saying that when he was at the Wests Tigers it was all about attack ….since 2005 we wanted to score more points than the other team ,,,the majority of training was about attack,,,,they took pride in it,,,

Now at the Dragons we take pride in keeping the opposition out,,,certainly working for them...

Benji was a major part of our woes ….
He's just gloating now , he couldn't dent a coke can !

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Oppositions still target Benji at the Dragons!

 

[Tiger_In_The_Gong]

Of course focusing on defence is a good thing you pair of geeks, none of us are disputing that. What most of us are saying is that if Taylor and co think the ridiculous attack strategy of 5 x one out hit ups followed by a clearing kick will aid our defence they will be sadly mistaken.

Throwing almost zero attack at a professional Rugby League side will result in the following:

1\. The opposition defenders will easily read the attack resulting in far more dominant tackles slowing down our play the ball.

2\. This will also lead to more of our runners being blindsided in potentialy injury causing hits as their minds are on simply catching, taking the tackle and playing the ball without error. This single focus will take them out of what's happening on their periphery.

3\. Due to the ruck being slowed down, the opposition line will always be set resulting in us needing low percentage plays to score.

4\. The opposition lose very low energy levels defending which means they have higher than normal levels for their attack.

5\. We lose field position

6\. We continue losing games.

Concentration on only one facet of the game will not bring success. Playing negatively will not guarantee victories. You have to excell in both areas to win.

What you are saying makes too much rugby league sense for the outcome to be any different.

5 hit ups and bomb from 40m out will never get anyone anywhere.

This is what he needs to change, he can keep working on the defense and asking the team to be tougher. Everyone wants that but this nonsense with the bomb on the end of a structured the set will be the thing that brings him undone.

If he doesnt change it he wont last the year.

Even the positive at all cost brigade will turn eventually.

 

[Russell]

Respect your opinion GCT.

However, I think Mitchell is handling it ok - big forwards running at him and all, with no protection and our forwards not going forward. I think he is handling it better than Brooks to be perfectly honest. He is doing what JT wants / even though his instincts want him to do something else.

He is the long term answer and he is not going to get any better hiding him in NSW Cup or relegating him down to learn something. He needs the experience of NRL football and the team need him to get the experience as soon as possible (but it will still take time). I would like to see most of the team put their bodies (much bigger bodies by the way) on the line as often and without fear as he does. Then we might be talkin'.

I am a fan - probably his biggest and I'm not saying he is a fantastic player - I am saying he is the best Tigers prospect I have seen in 65 years and will (not maybe) be a champion. I don't want him sacrificed or belted out of the game either but he will never amount to anything if you wrap him in cotton wool. If he gets injured - so be it.

Then you can scrounge around for an inferior replacement like Drinkwater.

 

[cktiger]

Respect your opinion GCT.

However, I think Mitchell is handling it ok - big forwards running at him and all, with no protection and our forwards not going forward. I think he is handling it better than Brooks to be perfectly honest. He is doing what JT wants / even though his instincts want him to do something else.

He is the long term answer and he is not going to get any better hiding him in NSW Cup or relegating him down to learn something. He needs the experience of NRL football and the team need him to get the experience as soon as possible (but it will still take time). I would like to see most of the team put their bodies (much bigger bodies by the way) on the line as often and without fear as he does. Then we might be talkin'.

I am a fan - probably his biggest and I'm not saying he is a fantastic player - I am saying he is the best Tigers prospect I have seen in 65 years and will (not maybe) be a champion. I don't want him sacrificed or belted out of the game either but he will never amount to anything if you wrap him in cotton wool. If he gets injured - so be it.

Then you can scrounge around for an inferior replacement like Drinkwater.

Agree with just about all of that but would like to add that I hate to see guys like himself and Brooks who have dominated because of their attacking skills told to turn it off and just concentrate on defence.
Ok to concentrate on defence when we are defending - but why on earth not let them play what is in front of them when we have the ball?
Sure they'll make a few errors , but they'll also put on plenty of points.
Bird and Austin are allowed to play what they see and I don't think either have the skill set that our kids have - yet I don't hear their fans or coaches complaining about letting them off the leash.
And you're exactly right about wishing some of our bigger guys had the same ticker as Moses.
If only…

 

[Year_of_the_Tiger]

Austin has decent forward pack.

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[Tigermama]

Respect your opinion GCT.

However, I think Mitchell is handling it ok - big forwards running at him and all, with no protection and our forwards not going forward. I think he is handling it better than Brooks to be perfectly honest. He is doing what JT wants / even though his instincts want him to do something else.

He is the long term answer and he is not going to get any better hiding him in NSW Cup or relegating him down to learn something. He needs the experience of NRL football and the team need him to get the experience as soon as possible (but it will still take time). I would like to see most of the team put their bodies (much bigger bodies by the way) on the line as often and without fear as he does. Then we might be talkin'.

I am a fan - probably his biggest and I'm not saying he is a fantastic player - I am saying he is the best Tigers prospect I have seen in 65 years and will (not maybe) be a champion. I don't want him sacrificed or belted out of the game either but he will never amount to anything if you wrap him in cotton wool. If he gets injured - so be it.

Then you can scrounge around for an inferior replacement like Drinkwater.

Agree with just about all of that but would like to add that I hate to see guys like himself and Brooks who have dominated because of their attacking skills told to turn it off and just concentrate on defence.
Ok to concentrate on defence when we are defending - but why on earth not let them play what is in front of them when we have the ball?
Sure they'll make a few errors , but they'll also put on plenty of points.
Bird and Austin are allowed to play what they see and I don't think either have the skill set that our kids have - yet I don't hear their fans or coaches complaining about letting them off the leash.
And you're exactly right about wishing some of our bigger guys had the same ticker as Moses.
If only…

That's what I don't get either CQ. Why stifle their attack when we have the ball?? Let them rip in. Loosen the restraints JT. 😛ray:

 

[happy_tiger]

Of course focusing on defence is a good thing you pair of geeks, none of us are disputing that. What most of us are saying is that if Taylor and co think the ridiculous attack strategy of 5 x one out hit ups followed by a clearing kick will aid our defence they will be sadly mistaken.

Throwing almost zero attack at a professional Rugby League side will result in the following:

1\. The opposition defenders will easily read the attack resulting in far more dominant tackles slowing down our play the ball.

2\. This will also lead to more of our runners being blindsided in potentialy injury causing hits as their minds are on simply catching, taking the tackle and playing the ball without error. This single focus will take them out of what's happening on their periphery.

3\. Due to the ruck being slowed down, the opposition line will always be set resulting in us needing low percentage plays to score.

4\. The opposition lose very low energy levels defending which means they have higher than normal levels for their attack.

5\. We lose field position

6\. We continue losing games.

Concentration on only one facet of the game will not bring success. Playing negatively will not guarantee victories. You have to excell in both areas to win.

Great post.

Negative footy will not lead to winning games now or in the future. Its dumb.

We have tried to attack our way to victory since Day 1 and on most occasions have failed miserably

Time to try something different fix the defence first and then the attack

Does anyone get at all what Taylor is trying to achieve ??He will take the brakes off when they can prove they can follow a game plan , not panic when we start losing the ruck or get into the grind

The Roosters game was the perfect example , we weren't likely to win but when we stayed in the grind we kept it close

The minute we panicked and tried some low percentage plays we swing the possession % into overload and got beaten

Warriors game same thing , lost it in a brutal 8 minute period

They don't know when to hang in or when to turn the screws on an opposition

JT is simplifying it all , back to basics This is not a quick fix , this is a long term plan to try and work on the same mentality as the clubs who are consistently successful

Wouldn't everyone be prepared to have a season where we fix everything to become a League powerhouse that is a Top 6 side consistently

I just am dumbfounded at the short sightedness of many on here , really :brick:

Again too many people think back to 2005 and think that is the be all and end all

We will never see that again , get over it for the sake of this club

 

[TurnStyle]

the way i see (part of) this:

- stryker and HT: i think the reason youre both disagreeing is that you are both quite right in your assessments…two sides of the same coin so to speak.

HT sees the long term plan and is pragmatic and realistic about the time its going to take for such a plan to start to bear fruit.

i was looking at foxsports this afternoon and reading an article on Mick Malthouses sacking that i related very much to (what i think) is what Stryker is saying:

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/mick-malthouse-sacked-six-mistakes-that-led-to-carlton-coach-axing/story-e6frf3e3-1227370015188

4\. POOR GAME PLAN, LITTLE HOMEWORK
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MALTHOUSE’S lacklustre, defensively-minded game plan had demotivated the Carlton playing group, according to David King.
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The North Melbourne premiership player said it had got to the point where Carlton players had not been playing and training in an enjoyable environment over recent months, meaning they weren’t fully invested in Malthouse’s game plan.
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“They’ve had the life sucked out of them over the past six months. They need someone to come in who’s got a CV and says ‘if we do this correctly, we can win a flag’,” King told SEN on Saturday.
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“I’m pushing for (a coach) that’s got a brand of football these players can enjoy in a lot of ways. I don’t think (Carlton players) have enjoyed their football over the past six months. It’s not just the losing, it’s the fact they don’t have the flare that they’ve got.”

could it be that by implementing this plan has the players not enjoying actually playing the game? i know it has the fans not enjoying watching it right now, so maybe there is a possibility that the players themselves - as has been mentioned previously (sorry, dont remember poster) - are frustrated (eg; moses yelling at the trainer) and bored and losing motivation?

so we are left with a bit of a catch 22: will the players be happy to spend so long and have faith long enough for Taylors grand scheme to come to fruition (it seems he has/had the right people believing he is the guy who "has the CV and says if we do this we will win a flag")? will they want to go somewhere else where they will enjoy playing? everyone knows the old saying "a happy worker is a productive worker" - true in every job and no less so in rugby league.

and as has also been posted, is it wise to simply continue on this path no matter what? its true the club is basically stuck with Taylor for the term of his contrat, but there is certainly no guarantee following this selected path will actually work. and again (paraphrasing other posters) is this the game plan that is going to set up the foundations for the likes of brooks, moses, tedesco to have their type of game permeate the defensive nature that will be inherent in the team once they are actually free to play more off the cuff?

if in, say, a year and a half's time we are seeing the attack has developed and has been given the correct genesis then Taylor will be hailed as a supercoach.

what if the players become so disillusioned with losing and playing a "dour/gritty" game that they just dont want to be there?

i guess (as has been the buzzword in 2015), all we can do is be "patient" (getting sick of that word!!) and see...

 

[TurnStyle]

JT is simplifying it all , back to basics This is not a quick fix , this is a long term plan to try and work on the same mentality as the clubs who are consistently successful
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Wouldn't everyone be prepared to have a season where we fix everything to become a League powerhouse that is a Top 6 side consistently

i think this is an extremely astute post. it is very difficult to go through the setting up phase - especially as there are no guarantees.

but as i asked in my post above: will the players the club needs be prepared to wait until they are allowed to play?!!

*come to think of it, my two paragraphs just now could easily save you all the time of my previous rambling post… :blah

just read this one! :laughing:

 

[stevetiger]

JT is simplifying it all , back to basics This is not a quick fix , this is a long term plan to try and work on the same mentality as the clubs who are consistently successful

Wouldn't everyone be prepared to have a season where we fix everything to become a League powerhouse that is a Top 6 side consistently

The problem with this comment is that its all based on a massive assumption.

Your assumption is this:-

JT is getting the defence right and this will lead to us having good defence for the next 10 years and make us a consistent top 6 side.

I personally don't believe this for one second. Its the sort of thing you state to scam people into believing that despite everything looking crap you are doing the right thing.

I think a much more accurate assessment of the current situation is that JT has no idea at all and he is killing this club. His defensive don't lose attitude has lost us games. I think it was the Canterbury game where JT came out and half time and said defence will win us this game. We played negatively and we lost. You can't win just off defence. You need to play positive footy. 5 crappy one out hit-ups and a bomb might win you a game here and there but overall it will lose you games and you will never be a top 6 side. Those tactics also make it really easy for the opposition.

I think our only hope is that JT realizes that he has no idea or the players rebel. We need to play to our players strength. The problem is that the moron is defending his crappy tactics and people like yourself are buying into it. I hope he is mature enough to realize that his job is on the line and what he is currently doing isn't working.

 

[Tiger_In_The_Gong]

I think a much more accurate assessment of the current situation is that JT has no idea at all and he is killing this club. His defensive don't lose attitude has lost us games. I think it was the Canterbury game where JT came out and half time and said defence will win us this game. We played negatively and we lost. You can't win just off defence. You need to play positive footy. 5 crappy one out hit-ups and a bomb might win you a game here and there but overall it will lose you games and you will never be a top 6 side. Those tactics also make it really easy for the opposition.
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This is exactly what happened against the Cowboys, the game was there to win.

We lost because we threw nothing at them except mid field bombs.

If they are going to have a practice year they should at least reduce ticket prices.

 

[TrueTiger]

I think a much more accurate assessment of the current situation is that JT has no idea at all and he is killing this club. His defensive don't lose attitude has lost us games. I think it was the Canterbury game where JT came out and half time and said defence will win us this game. We played negatively and we lost. You can't win just off defence. You need to play positive footy. 5 crappy one out hit-ups and a bomb might win you a game here and there but overall it will lose you games and you will never be a top 6 side. Those tactics also make it really easy for the opposition.
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This is exactly what happened against the Cowboys, the game was there to win.

We lost because we threw nothing at them except mid field bombs.

If they are going to have a practice year they should at least reduce ticket prices.

Well fellas,as I said earlier,I have no problem JT setting up a defensive structure for the team to follow…we have needed to harden our defence up for a long time now...in having said that,what is wrong with letting the young halves releasing some attacking flair for about ten mins a game and if things don't work out or we don't score points go back to the defensive structure...you never know everybody could be surprised how well they handle both sides of the game..just my opinion,but I'm a mug cause I follow this lot... :smiley:

 

[cktiger]

Of course focusing on defence is a good thing you pair of geeks, none of us are disputing that. What most of us are saying is that if Taylor and co think the ridiculous attack strategy of 5 x one out hit ups followed by a clearing kick will aid our defence they will be sadly mistaken.

Throwing almost zero attack at a professional Rugby League side will result in the following:

1\. The opposition defenders will easily read the attack resulting in far more dominant tackles slowing down our play the ball.

2\. This will also lead to more of our runners being blindsided in potentialy injury causing hits as their minds are on simply catching, taking the tackle and playing the ball without error. This single focus will take them out of what's happening on their periphery.

3\. Due to the ruck being slowed down, the opposition line will always be set resulting in us needing low percentage plays to score.

4\. The opposition lose very low energy levels defending which means they have higher than normal levels for their attack.

5\. We lose field position

6\. We continue losing games.

Concentration on only one facet of the game will not bring success. Playing negatively will not guarantee victories. You have to excell in both areas to win.

Great post.

Negative footy will not lead to winning games now or in the future. Its dumb.

We have tried to attack our way to victory since Day 1 and on most occasions have failed miserably

Time to try something different fix the defence first and then the attack

Does anyone get at all what Taylor is trying to achieve ??He will take the brakes off when they can prove they can follow a game plan , not panic when we start losing the ruck or get into the grind

The Roosters game was the perfect example , we weren't likely to win but when we stayed in the grind we kept it close

The minute we panicked and tried some low percentage plays we swing the possession % into overload and got beaten

Warriors game same thing , lost it in a brutal 8 minute period

They don't know when to hang in or when to turn the screws on an opposition

JT is simplifying it all , back to basics This is not a quick fix , this is a long term plan to try and work on the same mentality as the clubs who are consistently successful

Wouldn't everyone be prepared to have a season where we fix everything to become a League powerhouse that is a Top 6 side consistently

I just am dumbfounded at the short sightedness of many on here , really :brick:

Again too many people think back to 2005 and think that is the be all and end all

We will never see that again , get over it for the sake of this club

Come on happy - they are first grade footballers - how long does it take to learn to stand in a line and tackle?
You mention against the Roosters we had little chance to win but blew it when we actually tried to win.
Should we be happy to just play boring attacking football and lose?
We lost both that game and the Warriors game through periods of poor defence so I don't have a problem with an emphasis on that - but why does that mean you can't attack when you have the football in your hands?
We (supposedly) tackle good against NQ and lose - when the only chance we had to win came off unstructured play by Moses.
The attacking game plan is murdering players who are instinctively attacking weapons.
He should be teaching guys to follow them and run with, and off, them.
If you can't see in the faces of our spine how they feel then try looking into the eyes of a tiger caged up at a circus.
It's killing their spirit.

 

[Russell]

If the players are not enjoying it - maybe they can leave.

I think it is more a case of being dirty on themselves for failing to carry out the game plan, or giving away a cheap penalty or dropping the ball etc. etc. It doesn't have to mean they don't want to be there.

As for Moses yelling at the trainer - who knows what he was saying (plenty of guesses on here) maybe he was saying he left the engine running on the car or he forgot to turn off the electric kettle in the dressing room.

Trying to read peoples attitude or demeanor is fraught with danger and invariably wrong.
My wife does it all the time with me - I think she has been right once in 35 years.

 

[Tiger_In_The_Gong]

If the players are not enjoying it - maybe they can leave.

I think it is more a case of being dirty on themselves for failing to carry out the game plan, or giving away a cheap penalty or dropping the ball etc. etc. It doesn't have to mean they don't want to be there.

As for Moses yelling at the trainer - who knows what he was saying (plenty of guesses on here) maybe he was saying he left the engine running on the car or he forgot to turn off the electric kettle in the dressing room.

Trying to read peoples attitude or demeanor is fraught with danger and invariably wrong.
My wife does it all the time with me - I think she has been right once in 35 years.

Yes because happy players yell at a trainer.

We all want that tougher more structured side the same as you Russel but come on, this five hit ups and a bomb is rubbish.

What if the playmaker can sense an overlpap developing if they hit a side quickly a couple of time. No not under this coach at the moment, stick to the plan and bomb at the end.

We are now losing games that are there to be won.

 

[happy_tiger]

If the players are not enjoying it - maybe they can leave.

I think it is more a case of being dirty on themselves for failing to carry out the game plan, or giving away a cheap penalty or dropping the ball etc. etc. It doesn't have to mean they don't want to be there.

As for Moses yelling at the trainer - who knows what he was saying (plenty of guesses on here) maybe he was saying he left the engine running on the car or he forgot to turn off the electric kettle in the dressing room.

Trying to read peoples attitude or demeanor is fraught with danger and invariably wrong.
My wife does it all the time with me - I think she has been right once in 35 years.

Yes because happy players yell at a trainer.

We all want that tougher more structured side the same as you Russel but come on, this five hit ups and a bomb is rubbish.

What if the playmaker can sense an overlpap developing if they hit a side quickly a couple of time. No not under this coach at the moment, stick to the plan and bomb at the end.

We are now losing games that are there to be won.

I don't think JT is stifling them at all , they have to earn the right to attack when in the right field position

We aren't getting in good field position because of our defence , because of our kicking game and our kick chase

Do you honestly think that Taylor tells Brooks and Moses to kick down the fullbacks throat ??

Yes he is looking for hang time with his kicks but surely he is telling them to kick in behind the fullback left or right side and wanting them to kick return from a corner

And when they get in the opposition red zone we do and can use the ball , but more often than not we panic with a stupid kick , lose scrums against the head , throw a bad pass , bad ball carry , you name it we've done it

We lack a back rower with true penetration and that runs good lines like an Ellis or Fulton

I could be wrong , but we look like we have lost confidence in our attack

 

[Tiger_In_The_Gong]

Do you honestly think that Taylor tells Brooks and Moses to kick down the fullbacks throat ??

Yes.

And im surprised you are even questioning that. It is so obviously a tactic. You must be watching a completely different game.