Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go

[gallagher]

The cobwebs are being dusted off plans to rejuvenate Manly's dilapidated Brookvale base into a sparkling 20,000-seater stadium as the Sea Eagles loom as the biggest beneficiary of Peter V'landys' push for up to four "mini-Bankwest Stadiums" to be built in Sydney.

Manly chief executive Stephen Humphreys confirmed the club is already sitting on designs for a total revamp of the famous northern beaches ground, which could be the first built under V'landys' suburban dream.

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The Australian Rugby League Commission boss confirmed on Monday the code would campaign for three, potentially four, boutique grounds, to be modelled on the $360 million Bankwest Stadium, lauded as the best rugby league viewing experience in the country.

V'landys will meet with the NSW government later this week after Premier Gladys Berejiklian announced on Sunday she had scrapped the $810 million redevelopment of ANZ Stadium in favour of job creation programs.

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Rugby league's most powerful administrator wants to divert the money to suburban grounds, which would be razed and rebuilt entirely rather than redeveloped. They would each have a capacity of up to 20,000.

Manly's Lottoland, Netstrata Jubilee Stadium at Kogarah, Campbelltown Stadium and Penrith's home base are in line for overhauls if the ANZ Stadium money can be diverted into multi-use suburban venues.

If we can get little Bankwest Stadiums in four different locations in Sydney, then they become that community's venue

Peter V'landys
"Bankwest Stadium is the best stadium to watch the game," V'landys said. "If we can get little Bankwest Stadiums in four different locations in Sydney, then they become that community's venue. That generates tribalism and it also provides so many uses for that facility.

"Why not knock them over and start them again and build them like a smaller scale version of Bankwest? It will rejuvenate the tribalism in our game and have people wanting to go to the ground. Tribalism is so important for the game. If you have these boutique five-star stadiums like Bankwest you're on a winner."

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The sentiment is music to the ears of long-suffering Manly fans, whose ground has been run down and was the subject of an asbestos scare last year before the elimination final against Cronulla.

Excavation planning was underway for the club's new centre of excellence and modern grandstand on the northern hill which prompted the asbestos finding. The project is in the final stages of planning and needs tick off from a state government independent planning panel.

Manly's Lottoland stadium is one of four venues set to be prioritised by the NRL following the NSW government's backdown on the ANZ Stadium rebuild.
Manly's Lottoland stadium is one of four venues set to be prioritised by the NRL following the NSW government's backdown on the ANZ Stadium rebuild.CREDIT:NRL PHOTOS

But there could be a bigger reward for the club, which has mothballed a larger master plan for the redevelopment of Lottoland pending funding - which now could become available - and approval of the development application.

"We do have what I would call a master plan that would bring a stadium of about 20,000 capacity with all the comfort and convenience a modern stadium can bring," Humphreys said.

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"I'm not saying we would necessarily be on the scale of Bankwest, but if you look at what it has done for Parramatta and some of the vision from games there last year ... to bring that style of stadium to the northern beaches which has been waiting for a long time, it would transform the gameday experience for the fans and give the community an asset to be really proud of. Our members think they're due - and I agree with them."

Northern Beaches Council mayor Michael Regan described the potential suburban funding for Lottoland as "smart".

The state government's ANZ Stadium backflip has thrown the SCG's hopes of hosting this year's grand final into disarray.

Moore Park was poised to host the NRL showpiece both this year and next while the Olympic stadium underwent a transformation.

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But with Sydney Olympic Park looking likely to be back online the grand final will be played at its traditional home, if the NRL decides not to move it interstate.

The NRL had a memorandum of understanding with the NSW government to play the grand final in Sydney for the next 27 years, pending the completion the city's $2 billion stadia overhaul. That included the ANZ Stadium transformation.

ANZ Stadium's anchor tenants, the Rabbitohs and Bulldogs, were kept in the dark over plans to abandon their ground's upgrade and were scheduled for a farewell match there mid-way through this year.

Penrith's chief executive Brian Fletcher said his club would welcome an investment in Panthers Stadium, in which it holds its long term lease.

"We'd love to be considered," he said. "We've got the biggest junior nursery in the state, a new airport being opened in 2026 and we're the biggest growing part of Sydney. It would be enormous for the community."

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Thanks mate, I just read using your clear history trick lol

No worries, sometimes I get through it by opening in incognito made

 

[WT2K]

Rupert (News corp) and Chanel 9 (SMH) can get stuffed..I ain't payin...

Incognito mode for SMH = readable

Edit - gallagher already mentioned it

 

[innsaneink]

why 8 at cambo ? nowhere near our leagues clubs or COE and makes no sense. We may aswell train at parramatta and play at kogarah oval ...

There is a leagues club attached to the ground and a railway station and a carpark. What's the COE got to do with were we play.


What does the Leagues Club at Campbelltown have to do with Wests Tigers?

Read the last few posts above. They were also on the board of Wests Tigers but gave their vote back to Wests Ashfield. They also were once one the partners in bankrolling WT but gave that away to focus on bankrolling the juniors in the area,


They do not contribute to the WT. End of story.

Nor do Balmain.


I never claimed that they did, nor did I make a point that their club was near their ground. Ill ask my original question to you......What does Wests Campbelltown have to do with the Wests Tigers.

Ill help you....nothing.

They contribute heavily to Wests Tigers Macarther junior leagues..


As do Balmain to Balmain Juniors. Wests Campbelltown have zero to do with WT. No board seats, no financial contribution.

?
Balmain?
They're gone... Wests Ashfield support BJRL

 

[Snake]

Bankwest next to Parra leagues ...club gets nothing on game day is cry ....Campbelltown oval next to a club with the word Wests in it but the Weststigers get ZIP on game day but that’s OK ! Go figure ... but this thinking has lead to the totally ridiculous multi home ground structure !
And by the way this club at Campbelltown have wanted to get rid of the name Wests for years ! Ask around ..

 

[diedpretty]

why 8 at cambo ? nowhere near our leagues clubs or COE and makes no sense. We may aswell train at parramatta and play at kogarah oval ...

There is a leagues club attached to the ground and a railway station and a carpark. What's the COE got to do with were we play.

It is nowhere near the Leagues club of our owners.

I have yet to find out when Wests Ashfield sold Wests Campbelltown. I know it is now part of the Wests Group Macarthur but who owns that. Not being smart. Wests Ashfield bought the leagues club at Campbelltown when the Magpies moved there. I have not been able to find anything that says they sold it.

Mate really good question, I have just spent the last 30 mins or so researching this, I can find that they are owned by Wests Group Macarthur and that the independent board was setup in 1996. What I can't find is who owns Wests Group or whether Ashfield has any interest in that group.

I got in touch with some knowledgeable Magpie supporters. They are pretty sure that Wests Ashfield gifted the club back to the Campbelltown community around 2000. Bad mistake if they did as that club and the Wests Macarthur Group are worth more than Wests Ashfield.

 

[cochise]

why 8 at cambo ? nowhere near our leagues clubs or COE and makes no sense. We may aswell train at parramatta and play at kogarah oval ...

There is a leagues club attached to the ground and a railway station and a carpark. What's the COE got to do with were we play.

It is nowhere near the Leagues club of our owners.

I have yet to find out when Wests Ashfield sold Wests Campbelltown. I know it is now part of the Wests Group Macarthur but who owns that. Not being smart. Wests Ashfield bought the leagues club at Campbelltown when the Magpies moved there. I have not been able to find anything that says they sold it.

Mate really good question, I have just spent the last 30 mins or so researching this, I can find that they are owned by Wests Group Macarthur and that the independent board was setup in 1996. What I can't find is who owns Wests Group or whether Ashfield has any interest in that group.

I got in touch with some knowledgeable Magpie supporters. They are pretty sure that Wests Ashfield gifted the club back to the Campbelltown community around 2000. Bad mistake if they did as that club and the Wests Macarthur Group are worth more than Wests Ashfield.

That is the impression I get from reading up on it but now where actually says it. I believe it occurred in 1996.

 

[diedpretty]

I just want to apologise to Tiger5150 for being a bit aggressive in replying to him. The reason i posed the question in the first place is that if Campbelltown is upgraded the NRL will obviously be putting pressure on WT to increase the number of games there. If that is the case i wanted to know if there was any benefit to Wests Ashfield financially in that the club is at the ground and would increase revenue on game days. Obviously there would be no kickback to Wests Ashfield.

 

[cochise]

I just want to apologise to Tiger5150 for being a bit aggressive in replying to him. The reason i posed the question in the first place is that if Campbelltown is upgraded the NRL will obviously be putting pressure on WT to increase the number of games there. If that is the case i wanted to know if there was any benefit to Wests Ashfield financially in that the club is at the ground and would increase revenue on game days. Obviously there would be no kickback to Wests Ashfield.

It really is a shame how that ended up, I believe they pulled out of the Wests Tigers because in their view Ashfield was siding with Balmain in voting thus making it difficult for them to have a say? Is that how it played out or was there some other reason?

 

[diedpretty]

I just want to apologise to Tiger5150 for being a bit aggressive in replying to him. The reason i posed the question in the first place is that if Campbelltown is upgraded the NRL will obviously be putting pressure on WT to increase the number of games there. If that is the case i wanted to know if there was any benefit to Wests Ashfield financially in that the club is at the ground and would increase revenue on game days. Obviously there would be no kickback to Wests Ashfield.

It really is a shame how that ended up, I believe they pulled out of the Wests Tigers because in their view Ashfield was siding with Balmain in voting thus making it difficult for them to have a say? Is that how it played out or was there some other reason?

Pretty much - As they only had 1 vote it meant nothing so they gave it back to Wests Ashfield and pulled the plug on anything to do with WT at NRL level.

 

[cochise]

I just want to apologise to Tiger5150 for being a bit aggressive in replying to him. The reason i posed the question in the first place is that if Campbelltown is upgraded the NRL will obviously be putting pressure on WT to increase the number of games there. If that is the case i wanted to know if there was any benefit to Wests Ashfield financially in that the club is at the ground and would increase revenue on game days. Obviously there would be no kickback to Wests Ashfield.

It really is a shame how that ended up, I believe they pulled out of the Wests Tigers because in their view Ashfield was siding with Balmain in voting thus making it difficult for them to have a say? Is that how it played out or was there some other reason?

Pretty much - As they only had 1 vote it meant nothing so they gave it back to Wests Ashfield and pulled the plug on anything to do with WT at NRL level.

Probably not a bad move on their part as they still get the game day profits with none of the outlay.

 

[Tiger5150]

I just want to apologise to Tiger5150 for being a bit aggressive in replying to him. The reason i posed the question in the first place is that if Campbelltown is upgraded the NRL will obviously be putting pressure on WT to increase the number of games there. If that is the case i wanted to know if there was any benefit to Wests Ashfield financially in that the club is at the ground and would increase revenue on game days. Obviously there would be no kickback to Wests Ashfield.

Mate thats not necessary but appreciated.

I am an old Balmain Tiger and I think many will automatically assume that means I am anti-CS. Im not. I dont want to abandon CS or the area, I feel it is an asset to the club and would be missed if thrown away. I am not sure that it is the entire answer though, Im not sure if 100% even at an upgraded CS would be successful.

Personally I dont think anyone was convinced me that there is actually a problem with the three ground situation. I think its possible that some clubs would like to have the opportunity for the stadium for big crowds and a couple of boutique grounds with history and soul to save money for the small crowds. I dont think it is a problem.

I do however have the strong feeling that Wests Ashfield are not strong advocates for Campbelltown. I dont know why though but its the feeling I get from most of their decisions.

 

[cochise]

I just want to apologise to Tiger5150 for being a bit aggressive in replying to him. The reason i posed the question in the first place is that if Campbelltown is upgraded the NRL will obviously be putting pressure on WT to increase the number of games there. If that is the case i wanted to know if there was any benefit to Wests Ashfield financially in that the club is at the ground and would increase revenue on game days. Obviously there would be no kickback to Wests Ashfield.


Mate thats not necessary but appreciated.

I am an old Balmain Tiger and I think many will automatically assume that means I am anti-CS. Im not. I dont want to abandon CS or the area, I feel it is an asset to the club and would be missed if thrown away. I am not sure that it is the entire answer though, Im not sure if 100% even at an upgraded CS would be successful.

Personally I dont think anyone was convinced me that there is actually a problem with the three ground situation. I think its possible that some clubs would like to have the opportunity for the stadium for big crowds and a couple of boutique grounds with history and soul to save money for the small crowds. I dont think it is a problem.

I do however have the strong feeling that Wests Ashfield are not strong advocates for Campbelltown. I dont know why though but its the feeling I get from most of their decisions.

The fact that Ashfield was voting along with Balmain and not Campbelltown leads me to believe you are correct about that.

 

[Geo]

I just want to apologise to Tiger5150 for being a bit aggressive in replying to him. The reason i posed the question in the first place is that if Campbelltown is upgraded the NRL will obviously be putting pressure on WT to increase the number of games there. If that is the case i wanted to know if there was any benefit to Wests Ashfield financially in that the club is at the ground and would increase revenue on game days. Obviously there would be no kickback to Wests Ashfield.


Mate thats not necessary but appreciated.

I am an old Balmain Tiger and I think many will automatically assume that means I am anti-CS. Im not. I dont want to abandon CS or the area, I feel it is an asset to the club and would be missed if thrown away. I am not sure that it is the entire answer though, Im not sure if 100% even at an upgraded CS would be successful.

Personally I dont think anyone was convinced me that there is actually a problem with the three ground situation. I think its possible that some clubs would like to have the opportunity for the stadium for big crowds and a couple of boutique grounds with history and soul to save money for the small crowds. I dont think it is a problem.

I do however have the strong feeling that Wests Ashfield are not strong advocates for Campbelltown. I dont know why though but its the feeling I get from most of their decisions.

The fact that Ashfield was voting along with Balmain and not Campbelltown leads me to believe you are correct about that.

What things were the voting on...?

 

[cochise]

I just want to apologise to Tiger5150 for being a bit aggressive in replying to him. The reason i posed the question in the first place is that if Campbelltown is upgraded the NRL will obviously be putting pressure on WT to increase the number of games there. If that is the case i wanted to know if there was any benefit to Wests Ashfield financially in that the club is at the ground and would increase revenue on game days. Obviously there would be no kickback to Wests Ashfield.


Mate thats not necessary but appreciated.

I am an old Balmain Tiger and I think many will automatically assume that means I am anti-CS. Im not. I dont want to abandon CS or the area, I feel it is an asset to the club and would be missed if thrown away. I am not sure that it is the entire answer though, Im not sure if 100% even at an upgraded CS would be successful.

Personally I dont think anyone was convinced me that there is actually a problem with the three ground situation. I think its possible that some clubs would like to have the opportunity for the stadium for big crowds and a couple of boutique grounds with history and soul to save money for the small crowds. I dont think it is a problem.

I do however have the strong feeling that Wests Ashfield are not strong advocates for Campbelltown. I dont know why though but its the feeling I get from most of their decisions.

The fact that Ashfield was voting along with Balmain and not Campbelltown leads me to believe you are correct about that.

What things were the voting on...?

I'm only going off what was rumored at the time, and what another poster said earlier. Maybe I shouldn't have used the word fact lol

 

[Geo]

I just want to apologise to Tiger5150 for being a bit aggressive in replying to him. The reason i posed the question in the first place is that if Campbelltown is upgraded the NRL will obviously be putting pressure on WT to increase the number of games there. If that is the case i wanted to know if there was any benefit to Wests Ashfield financially in that the club is at the ground and would increase revenue on game days. Obviously there would be no kickback to Wests Ashfield.


Mate thats not necessary but appreciated.

I am an old Balmain Tiger and I think many will automatically assume that means I am anti-CS. Im not. I dont want to abandon CS or the area, I feel it is an asset to the club and would be missed if thrown away. I am not sure that it is the entire answer though, Im not sure if 100% even at an upgraded CS would be successful.

Personally I dont think anyone was convinced me that there is actually a problem with the three ground situation. I think its possible that some clubs would like to have the opportunity for the stadium for big crowds and a couple of boutique grounds with history and soul to save money for the small crowds. I dont think it is a problem.

I do however have the strong feeling that Wests Ashfield are not strong advocates for Campbelltown. I dont know why though but its the feeling I get from most of their decisions.

The fact that Ashfield was voting along with Balmain and not Campbelltown leads me to believe you are correct about that.

What things were the voting on...?

I'm only going off what was rumored at the time, and what another poster said earlier. Maybe I shouldn't have used the word fact lol

Just curious because that is the theory long held and long proported by die hard Magpie fanatics but have never hear on what issues..

I mean what could a board vote or sign off on..size of the magpie on the sleeve , home grounds what canopy's to serve at meetings..

The only issue I could see is when Sheens wanted to unify the state cup team when both the Magpies and BRET fielded teams and eventually got his wish when Magpie players ended up playing for BRET for a season or 2..before they just became Wests Tigers..now they have the Magpies back in Canterbury Cup and people complain about that for branding..

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

probably should be wests tigers in canterbury cup and put the Wests magpies to the lower grades below that.
i supports wests tigers not wests magpies although wests pay the bills i do find it a bit weird supporting wests magpies in CC it seems devisive
However i would rather we have a succesful first grade side so just need to put up with CC team in reality

 

[cochise]

I just want to apologise to Tiger5150 for being a bit aggressive in replying to him. The reason i posed the question in the first place is that if Campbelltown is upgraded the NRL will obviously be putting pressure on WT to increase the number of games there. If that is the case i wanted to know if there was any benefit to Wests Ashfield financially in that the club is at the ground and would increase revenue on game days. Obviously there would be no kickback to Wests Ashfield.


Mate thats not necessary but appreciated.

I am an old Balmain Tiger and I think many will automatically assume that means I am anti-CS. Im not. I dont want to abandon CS or the area, I feel it is an asset to the club and would be missed if thrown away. I am not sure that it is the entire answer though, Im not sure if 100% even at an upgraded CS would be successful.

Personally I dont think anyone was convinced me that there is actually a problem with the three ground situation. I think its possible that some clubs would like to have the opportunity for the stadium for big crowds and a couple of boutique grounds with history and soul to save money for the small crowds. I dont think it is a problem.

I do however have the strong feeling that Wests Ashfield are not strong advocates for Campbelltown. I dont know why though but its the feeling I get from most of their decisions.

The fact that Ashfield was voting along with Balmain and not Campbelltown leads me to believe you are correct about that.

What things were the voting on...?

I'm only going off what was rumored at the time, and what another poster said earlier. Maybe I shouldn't have used the word fact lol

Just curious because that is the theory long held and long proported by die hard Magpie fanatics but have never hear on what issues..

I mean what could a board vote or sign off on..size of the magpie on the sleeve , home grounds what canopy's to serve at meetings..

The only issue I could see is when Sheens wanted to unify the state cup team when both the Magpies and BRET fielded teams and eventually got his wish when Magpie players ended up playing for BRET for a season or 2..before they just became Wests Tigers..now they have the Magpies back in Canterbury Cup and people complain about that for branding..

I know the rumours popped up around the time of the Wests Tigers contracted players being sent to BRET, I think that was also around the time of the reduction of games at CSS and LO. There were lots of rumours around that time, I even remember talk of Wests linking with Canberra at that time.

In honesty a lot of it probably came from Alien who was really agitating for the dissolving of the joint venture at that time, so its hard to know what was true and what was games on his part.

 

[cochise]

probably should be wests tigers in canterbury cup and put the Wests magpies to the lower grades below that.
i supports wests tigers not wests magpies although wests pay the bills i do find it a bit weird supporting wests magpies in CC it seems devisive
However i would rather we have a succesful first grade side so just need to put up with CC team in reality

I don't mind the Magpies being in CC, its funny my 6 year old took a long time to understand why I would watch them play and support them because they were not the Tigers and in her eyes we hate every other team. I had to explain to her that the Magpies help the Tigers by giving us players if any of our players get hurt. She came to me the other night saying we like 3 teams don't we dad. The Tigers, the Magpies because they help the Tigers, New South Wales because they are our state. I then told her there was another team because we live in Australia so we support them when they play, she was astounded there was another team that we liked lol

Long winded story but West Magpies being in CC has helped me explain to my daughter the history of our club in a way she can understand, it is a shame there is no Balmain that I can really show her, though she has come with me to the odd Balmain junior reps game. In saying that it is easy to make the connection to Balmain for her because all she really sees at her age is the mascots in the branding.

Anyway sorry for my rambling post about nothing lol

 

[Geo]

probably should be wests tigers in canterbury cup and put the Wests magpies to the lower grades below that.
i supports wests tigers not wests magpies although wests pay the bills i do find it a bit weird supporting wests magpies in CC it seems devisive
However i would rather we have a succesful first grade side so just need to put up with CC team in reality

Yet The Rorters Souff's Cronulla Canberra St George Pawa all have feeder clubs not them with only the Pamfers having a State Cup team call Penriff...

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

Difference is all are not joint venture clubs geo
i dont count st george as as illawarra has the feeder club they are fine with that.
parra penrith souths cronulla are all nrl entities
we are Wests tigers
we zhould be wests tigers in CC too