Fullback - Impact and Value for Money

@WeHaveCheeKam said in [Fullback \- Impact and Value for Money](/post/1099080) said:
Is abbey fast?

He looks to be a natural not "made up" fullback. Let;s hope his injury is overcome and he can prove his worth.
 
'Natural', i guess thats what gives me hope in Abbey. I couldn't label any of the others that.
FWI, Meaney would be my number 1, round 1 if he was an option.
Actually some similarities with Meaney and Abbeys games. Not saying on the same level and both still need to establish themselves.
🤙I like the look of both.
 
@2005magic said in [Fullback \- Impact and Value for Money](/post/1099129) said:
Just a query, seems Dylan Smith is not pressuring for the top job. Has he been that poor? Maybe Abbey will be taking his spot in CC whilst he is getting match fit.

Dylan Smith
Age: 20 || Position: Fullback

Having progressed through his Development contract to the club’s full-time squad in 2020, Australian Schoolboys representative Dylan Smith is a name to watch in the number one jersey off the back of a solid season in Intrust Super Premiership.

In his 17 appearances for the Magpies, Smith had a hand in eight tries and chalked up over 2,000 metres on the ground — missing only a handful of games during the middle of the season as he managed a niggling hamstring injury.

Corey Thompson will seemingly get first crack at the fullback spot given his strong performances in the position last season, but the successful shift of captain Moses Mbye to the centres could open the door for **Smith down the track. As it stands, the 20-year-old is the only other specialist fullback in the NRL squad — meaning he could well have his named called throughout 2020 if an opportunity presents itself.**
 
@Geo said in [Fullback \- Impact and Value for Money](/post/1099295) said:
@2005magic said in [Fullback \- Impact and Value for Money](/post/1099129) said:
Just a query, seems Dylan Smith is not pressuring for the top job. Has he been that poor? Maybe Abbey will be taking his spot in CC whilst he is getting match fit.

Dylan Smith
Age: 20 || Position: Fullback

Having progressed through his Development contract to the club’s full-time squad in 2020, Australian Schoolboys representative Dylan Smith is a name to watch in the number one jersey off the back of a solid season in Intrust Super Premiership.

In his 17 appearances for the Magpies, Smith had a hand in eight tries and chalked up over 2,000 metres on the ground — missing only a handful of games during the middle of the season as he managed a niggling hamstring injury.

Corey Thompson will seemingly get first crack at the fullback spot given his strong performances in the position last season, but the successful shift of captain Moses Mbye to the centres could open the door for **Smith down the track. As it stands, the 20-year-old is the only other specialist fullback in the NRL squad — meaning he could well have his named called throughout 2020 if an opportunity presents itself.**

Abbey is still on his train and trial contract


So that Makes sense
 
@TheDaBoss said in [Fullback \- Impact and Value for Money](/post/1099298) said:
@Geo said in [Fullback \- Impact and Value for Money](/post/1099295) said:
@2005magic said in [Fullback \- Impact and Value for Money](/post/1099129) said:
Just a query, seems Dylan Smith is not pressuring for the top job. Has he been that poor? Maybe Abbey will be taking his spot in CC whilst he is getting match fit.

Dylan Smith
Age: 20 || Position: Fullback

Having progressed through his Development contract to the club’s full-time squad in 2020, Australian Schoolboys representative Dylan Smith is a name to watch in the number one jersey off the back of a solid season in Intrust Super Premiership.

In his 17 appearances for the Magpies, Smith had a hand in eight tries and chalked up over 2,000 metres on the ground — missing only a handful of games during the middle of the season as he managed a niggling hamstring injury.

Corey Thompson will seemingly get first crack at the fullback spot given his strong performances in the position last season, but the successful shift of captain Moses Mbye to the centres could open the door for **Smith down the track. As it stands, the 20-year-old is the only other specialist fullback in the NRL squad — meaning he could well have his named called throughout 2020 if an opportunity presents itself.**

Abbey is still on his train and trial contract


So that Makes sense

Still in rehab group isn't he ...hasn't been in any training photos yet
 
@happy_tiger said in [Fullback \- Impact and Value for Money](/post/1099346) said:
@TheDaBoss said in [Fullback \- Impact and Value for Money](/post/1099298) said:
@Geo said in [Fullback \- Impact and Value for Money](/post/1099295) said:
@2005magic said in [Fullback \- Impact and Value for Money](/post/1099129) said:
Just a query, seems Dylan Smith is not pressuring for the top job. Has he been that poor? Maybe Abbey will be taking his spot in CC whilst he is getting match fit.

Dylan Smith
Age: 20 || Position: Fullback

Having progressed through his Development contract to the club’s full-time squad in 2020, Australian Schoolboys representative Dylan Smith is a name to watch in the number one jersey off the back of a solid season in Intrust Super Premiership.

In his 17 appearances for the Magpies, Smith had a hand in eight tries and chalked up over 2,000 metres on the ground — missing only a handful of games during the middle of the season as he managed a niggling hamstring injury.

Corey Thompson will seemingly get first crack at the fullback spot given his strong performances in the position last season, but the successful shift of captain Moses Mbye to the centres could open the door for **Smith down the track. As it stands, the 20-year-old is the only other specialist fullback in the NRL squad — meaning he could well have his named called throughout 2020 if an opportunity presents itself.**

Abbey is still on his train and trial contract


So that Makes sense

Still in rehab group isn't he ...hasn't been in any training photos yet

I've seen him in 1

And a glimpse in a vid and that's all
 
@happy_tiger said in [Fullback \- Impact and Value for Money](/post/1099346) said:
@TheDaBoss said in [Fullback \- Impact and Value for Money](/post/1099298) said:
@Geo said in [Fullback \- Impact and Value for Money](/post/1099295) said:
@2005magic said in [Fullback \- Impact and Value for Money](/post/1099129) said:
Just a query, seems Dylan Smith is not pressuring for the top job. Has he been that poor? Maybe Abbey will be taking his spot in CC whilst he is getting match fit.

Dylan Smith
Age: 20 || Position: Fullback

Having progressed through his Development contract to the club’s full-time squad in 2020, Australian Schoolboys representative Dylan Smith is a name to watch in the number one jersey off the back of a solid season in Intrust Super Premiership.

In his 17 appearances for the Magpies, Smith had a hand in eight tries and chalked up over 2,000 metres on the ground — missing only a handful of games during the middle of the season as he managed a niggling hamstring injury.

Corey Thompson will seemingly get first crack at the fullback spot given his strong performances in the position last season, but the successful shift of captain Moses Mbye to the centres could open the door for **Smith down the track. As it stands, the 20-year-old is the only other specialist fullback in the NRL squad — meaning he could well have his named called throughout 2020 if an opportunity presents itself.**

Abbey is still on his train and trial contract


So that Makes sense

Still in rehab group isn't he ...hasn't been in any training photos yet

Think that he is, running and wearing the non-contact singlet/colours
 
Corey Thompson will surprise a few doubters in 2020 imo.

https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2019/12/27/thompson-extended-break-will-bring-out-the-best/
 
It really is the silly season when people are throwing up a non-fullback who is signing with Souths and an injury prone bloke with a whopping 13 games under his belt as serious fullback options.

Mbye is by far our best fullback. Whether playing fullback meets the coach's game plan is another issue.

While I don't think Corey Thompson is the complete package as fullback, he has a massive heart and is a proven performer.

You'd also be crazy to rule out Dylan Smith. Assuming he continues on an upwards trajectory, he will get some game time this year.
 
@Harvey said in [Fullback \- Impact and Value for Money](/post/1099139) said:
Mitchell, Mbye, Thompson, Smith, Abbey.

Johnston is no great improvement on any on that list, and if Abbey is any good, he can force his way up.

When Mitchell played fullback the Roosters went from first to near last and back to the top again when he moved to the centres. Mbye has never shown anything at fullback anywhere, Abbey hasn't either and Canterbury fans were glad to see the back of both of them. Thompson is very limited. Johnston was generally starting fullback in a top performing team and NRL top try scoring contender every year he played under Madge. Do the math.
 
@tigerballs said in [Fullback \- Impact and Value for Money](/post/1099421) said:
@Harvey said in [Fullback \- Impact and Value for Money](/post/1099139) said:
Mitchell, Mbye, Thompson, Smith, Abbey.

Johnston is no great improvement on any on that list, and if Abbey is any good, he can force his way up.

When Mitchell played fullback the Roosters went from first to near last and back to the top again when he moved to the centres. Mbye has never shown anything at fullback anywhere, Abbey hasn't either and Canterbury fans were glad to see the back of both of them. Thompson is very limited. Johnston was generally starting fullback in a top performing team and NRL top try scoring contender every year he played under Madge. Do the math.

You make a good argument Harvey. What price do you reckon we could sign Johnston at?
 
@twentyforty said in [Fullback \- Impact and Value for Money](/post/1099587) said:
@tigerballs said in [Fullback \- Impact and Value for Money](/post/1099421) said:
@Harvey said in [Fullback \- Impact and Value for Money](/post/1099139) said:
Mitchell, Mbye, Thompson, Smith, Abbey.

Johnston is no great improvement on any on that list, and if Abbey is any good, he can force his way up.

When Mitchell played fullback the Roosters went from first to near last and back to the top again when he moved to the centres. Mbye has never shown anything at fullback anywhere, Abbey hasn't either and Canterbury fans were glad to see the back of both of them. Thompson is very limited. Johnston was generally starting fullback in a top performing team and NRL top try scoring contender every year he played under Madge. Do the math.

You make a good argument Harvey. What price do you reckon we could sign Johnston at?

400 max.
 
@tigerballs said in [Fullback \- Impact and Value for Money](/post/1099589) said:
@twentyforty said in [Fullback \- Impact and Value for Money](/post/1099587) said:
@tigerballs said in [Fullback \- Impact and Value for Money](/post/1099421) said:
@Harvey said in [Fullback \- Impact and Value for Money](/post/1099139) said:
Mitchell, Mbye, Thompson, Smith, Abbey.

Johnston is no great improvement on any on that list, and if Abbey is any good, he can force his way up.

When Mitchell played fullback the Roosters went from first to near last and back to the top again when he moved to the centres. Mbye has never shown anything at fullback anywhere, Abbey hasn't either and Canterbury fans were glad to see the back of both of them. Thompson is very limited. Johnston was generally starting fullback in a top performing team and NRL top try scoring contender every year he played under Madge. Do the math.

You make a good argument Harvey. What price do you reckon we could sign Johnston at?

400 max.

You won't get any established players to accept $400k to play fullback ... unless they aren't really a fullback.
 
@cktiger said in [Fullback \- Impact and Value for Money](/post/1099598) said:
@tigerballs said in [Fullback \- Impact and Value for Money](/post/1099589) said:
@twentyforty said in [Fullback \- Impact and Value for Money](/post/1099587) said:
@tigerballs said in [Fullback \- Impact and Value for Money](/post/1099421) said:
@Harvey said in [Fullback \- Impact and Value for Money](/post/1099139) said:
Mitchell, Mbye, Thompson, Smith, Abbey.

Johnston is no great improvement on any on that list, and if Abbey is any good, he can force his way up.

When Mitchell played fullback the Roosters went from first to near last and back to the top again when he moved to the centres. Mbye has never shown anything at fullback anywhere, Abbey hasn't either and Canterbury fans were glad to see the back of both of them. Thompson is very limited. Johnston was generally starting fullback in a top performing team and NRL top try scoring contender every year he played under Madge. Do the math.

You make a good argument Harvey. What price do you reckon we could sign Johnston at?

400 max.

You won't get any established players to accept $400k to play fullback ... unless they aren't really a fullback.


For mine thats kind of the point. This is probably around the money that our current fullback is on. I also agree with Tigerballs estimate on what Johnston is *worth*, which by extension means in my opinion......why?
 
@Glenn5150 said in [Fullback \- Impact and Value for Money](/post/1099610) said:
@cktiger said in [Fullback \- Impact and Value for Money](/post/1099598) said:
@tigerballs said in [Fullback \- Impact and Value for Money](/post/1099589) said:
@twentyforty said in [Fullback \- Impact and Value for Money](/post/1099587) said:
@tigerballs said in [Fullback \- Impact and Value for Money](/post/1099421) said:
@Harvey said in [Fullback \- Impact and Value for Money](/post/1099139) said:
Mitchell, Mbye, Thompson, Smith, Abbey.

Johnston is no great improvement on any on that list, and if Abbey is any good, he can force his way up.

When Mitchell played fullback the Roosters went from first to near last and back to the top again when he moved to the centres. Mbye has never shown anything at fullback anywhere, Abbey hasn't either and Canterbury fans were glad to see the back of both of them. Thompson is very limited. Johnston was generally starting fullback in a top performing team and NRL top try scoring contender every year he played under Madge. Do the math.

You make a good argument Harvey. What price do you reckon we could sign Johnston at?

400 max.

You won't get any established players to accept $400k to play fullback ... unless they aren't really a fullback.


For mine thats kind of the point. This is probably around the money that our current fullback is on. I also agree with Tigerballs estimate on what Johnston is *worth*, which by extension means in my opinion......why?

Which current fullback..?...Corey Thompson or Moses Mbye..cause Thomo originally signed on mim contract then upgraded to his current deal which I doubt would be near 400K

Mbye is on much more than that according to reports..
 
@Geo said in [Fullback \- Impact and Value for Money](/post/1099612) said:
@Glenn5150 said in [Fullback \- Impact and Value for Money](/post/1099610) said:
@cktiger said in [Fullback \- Impact and Value for Money](/post/1099598) said:
@tigerballs said in [Fullback \- Impact and Value for Money](/post/1099589) said:
@twentyforty said in [Fullback \- Impact and Value for Money](/post/1099587) said:
@tigerballs said in [Fullback \- Impact and Value for Money](/post/1099421) said:
@Harvey said in [Fullback \- Impact and Value for Money](/post/1099139) said:
Mitchell, Mbye, Thompson, Smith, Abbey.

Johnston is no great improvement on any on that list, and if Abbey is any good, he can force his way up.

When Mitchell played fullback the Roosters went from first to near last and back to the top again when he moved to the centres. Mbye has never shown anything at fullback anywhere, Abbey hasn't either and Canterbury fans were glad to see the back of both of them. Thompson is very limited. Johnston was generally starting fullback in a top performing team and NRL top try scoring contender every year he played under Madge. Do the math.

You make a good argument Harvey. What price do you reckon we could sign Johnston at?

400 max.

You won't get any established players to accept $400k to play fullback ... unless they aren't really a fullback.


For mine thats kind of the point. This is probably around the money that our current fullback is on. I also agree with Tigerballs estimate on what Johnston is *worth*, which by extension means in my opinion......why?

Which current fullback..?...Corey Thompson or Moses Mbye..cause Thomo originally signed on mim contract then upgraded to his current deal which I doubt would be near 400K

Mbye is on much more than that according to reports..


I consider Thompson our current fullback, based on him finishing the season there
 
I don't see the point of replacing one average fullback with another average fullback who might be 'slightly' better than what we have now. I'm talking about AJ over Thompson. I want a very real increase or else don't bother at all. My 2c.
 
The recruitment Gods are not smiling on us at the moment. Hoping we get JAC, but not holding my breath. Perhaps this is just the chance for some young guys, such as Abbey to take their chance. What a great story it would be if he can overcome his injuries and show how good he is. The highlights I saw, thanks who posted it, are impressive. Remember Tedesco had a heap of injuries for ages and look where he is now.
Who knows?? - again we are due for a bit of luck with all of this.
 
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