How far away is Ivan's grand plan of playing Liddle for 80 minutes in 1st grade though?
He is coming off the bench in ISP so from the outside looking in it looks as though he can't even handle a full game of ISP due to his porcelain body. He should be pumping out 80 mins by the time 2024 comes around. We should all be content and patient until then really.
Look F to B - have the utmost respect for your posts - but the 3 above have me frothing. As you say you are looking from the outside in - and then putting crap on a young bloke who is showing stellar fortitude and untold amounts of guts and stoicism to just be playing.
Have you ever had a severe sterum injury? - it takes ages to get over it without playing.
He is playing in ISP because he can keep fitness without the guarantee of being targeted by big palookas until he can get back to NRL to help us out.
Be fair and give him a bit of a go.
Fair enough.
But if Middle is struggling with a severe sternum injury he should be left out of ISP altogether to rest it and let it heal. It's not as if midgets are playing ISP. he is competing against blokes who are as big as 1st graders.
Wasn't questioning his guts, fortitude etc…....more so if he is right to play why are we throwing our season away by persisting with ET, Godinet at hooker when they aren't 1st grade standard hookers? If he is right to play, play him in 1sts. If he's not right to play in 1sts, give him a rest and don't play him at all.
Can just see a Ballin scenario starting to develop, not Liddle's fault, but it is massively frustrating to see our club perhaps once again competing minus perhaps the most important position on the field being filled by a specialist hooker.
How long do we wait?
When is Liddle signed until? If he is still struggling with numerous injuries as he has thus far in his NRL career would you re-sign him or look for another option if you were in charge?
He has not had numerous injuries - he had his shoulders reconstructed - because of medical staff it was put off until the off season because they thought he may not need it. They were wrong! So he had it done in the off season (which he missed thanks to them). So he picked up a sternum injury after he came back. That is one injury for 2018.
We need to stick with him in my opinion - he is a very talented DH and we could not buy anyone better that is on the market. (Would not have Isaac Luke - almost over the hill and at the end of his career) (Mitch Rein and Levi are just not as good even at this stage of Liddle's career imo.)
I think most people on the Forum have seen the improvement in the team when Liddle plays as opposed to not, that is reason enough to persist. The only talent that he is lacking is "the kick" - I am sure he would be working on this.
If he doesn't play at all to recover from the injury, when he is good to go again, he will be lucky to last 15 minutes. At least in ISP he is chalking up his minutes, helping the ISP side and I have heard what you say about big blokes being in ISP as well. However the big blokes don't tend to put big shots on (like Napa for example) - the game is much slower than ISP and this allows you to protect yourself a lot more than NRL.
All I am asking is for people to get off his back while he recovers - when he comes back after a decent amount of games, if he is not what we need, then put the boot in.