Golden Point

Better option than the current system, but as sides only get 2 or 3 sets to complete per half, I still think they will be opting for the 1 point and looking to protect that lead from the outset.

Drop the field goal altogether during GP, it should be golden try or win from a penalty conversion. It should open up play. Make it one half of 10 min during GP for fatigue to set in.

Still prefer a draw (1 point each) after regular time. 80 min is plenty of time to work for a win.
 
Any other option than the current system I will take.
I have now changed my mind, there should be no 'Golden' win regardless of what scoring method. If they want extra time, play the full 10 min.
 
End of game after 80 minutes the only time it should not apply is in finals games and then it is extra time.GP is a joke and designed for TV
 
Agreed, involve the whole team more, these days its forwards getting metres and then then halves (except Brooks and Reynolds) would kick a FG but with Golden Try, the whole team can get involved, more skill involved
 
someone make a change.org article, and we can all sign it and submit it and the 'Fire ToddGreenberg" article as well to the NRL
 
None of those are reasons why it 'wouldn't work'.

I'll stick to a few brief points, rather than write an essay length response to your own essay, which will bore the titties off everyone.

- The whole objective is to say that a golden point loss is worth more than a regular time loss, because with a regular time loss your not tied up after 80 minutes… You've already lost the game in regulation time.

- By your same mathematical juggling, a team can have 5 draws during the year under the current system and still make the semis above a team which won two more games than it did. A team can also draw every single match they play and still make the semis under the current system, using past competition tables as a reference. So i suppose the current system also needs to be scrapped ASAP?

- It is not easier to 'collude' under one system over another. If you want to throw a match you will do it under whatever circumstances are put in front of you. By the way, not sure if you have played rugby league before, but its almost impossible to purposely draw a match.

We have a difference of opinion which is fine, but i'm still waiting for someone to explain why each match needs to be worth the same number of points?
 
Simply because if you don’t then there is a bias towards losing teams and losing is rewarded at to high a level relative to win.
 
Golden point has been a woeful rule change. Teams slog it out for 80 minutes and if the scores are even at the end of that time, they each deserve a point. I just don't get the need for it in normal club competition.
 
Television. It generates extra dollars for the game.

I reckon 80-90% of fans would probably be happy with the draw at 80 minutes, but it is not going to happen.
 
I understand where you are coming from.

But half the gripe with Golden Point is that teams are harshly done by, in that they get no reward for drawing after regulation time.

What i suggested deals with that.

Anyway, agree to disagree.
 
That’s why a 4 point per game system works. If you win in normal time you get maximum points. With GP you get three for a win and one for a loss. It maintains relativity and makes winning in normal time just that more important.
 
@Abraham said:
By your same mathematical juggling, a team can have 5 draws during the year under the current system and still make the semis above a team which won two more games than it did. A team can also draw every single match they play and still make the semis under the current system, using past competition tables as a reference. So i suppose the current system also needs to be scrapped ASAP?
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They can do it if they manage to play through 5 or infinite golden point draws, yes. First point is it's far more difficult to GP draw than regular time, obviously, both because of extra play, player tiring and the fact that a single point instantly ends the match.

But putting that to the side, if you do have 5 or 24 GP draws, yes you can still tally 24 regular points plus byes, but there aren't 16+ teams achieving another 2 points on top of that. Every other side has at least 1 draw in their record worth just 1 point, not potentially 2\. That's why a GP draw right now is 1-1 points, not 2-2 points.

@Abraham said:
It is not easier to ‘collude’ under one system over another. If you want to throw a match you will do it under whatever circumstances are put in front of you. By the way, not sure if you have played rugby league before, but its almost impossible to purposely draw a match.
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Well as unlikely as collusion is, there is a big difference between 2-0 points and 2-1 points that you propose, because you can artificially increase the value of a match. If you want to win but also help your opponent, or if need at least 1 point, you can conspire to draw, then worry about the extra point during GP. Under the current system you either win everything or lose everything.

Purposely drawing a match is tough yes, but not if the opponent is in on it, or it's down to the goal kicker.

I understand what you are saying and there's not a world-ending influence on the competition with 2-1 points for GP, but there are risks and inconsistencies. Make it a 3-2-1 system and you heavily mitigate those risks and inconsistencies. Not sure why you so against that concept if you are changing the scoring anyway. Why not take the less risky, or even the "less perceived by some folks" option?
 
@Abraham said:
By your same mathematical juggling, a team can have 5 draws during the year under the current system and still make the semis above a team which won two more games than it did. A team can also draw every single match they play and still make the semis under the current system, using past competition tables as a reference. So i suppose the current system also needs to be scrapped ASAP?
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Also, your case is 5 or 24 draws, i.e. undefeated. Not 5 or 24 extra-time losses.

Going through the season undefeated but never winning is one thing. Going through 100% defeated and still getting finals-bound points is a bad system.
 
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