GREENBERG GONE.....

@Fade-To-Black said in [GREENBERG GONE\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1144526) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [GREENBERG GONE\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1144512) said:
@Fade-To-Black said in [GREENBERG GONE\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1144510) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [GREENBERG GONE\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1144502) said:
@Fade-To-Black said in [GREENBERG GONE\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1144498) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [GREENBERG GONE\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1144491) said:
@cochise said in [GREENBERG GONE\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1144490) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [GREENBERG GONE\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1144486) said:
@Fade-To-Black said in [GREENBERG GONE\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1144481) said:
@jirskyr said in [GREENBERG GONE\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1144475) said:
I agree to some extent with Josh, I am not a Greenberg fan but the reality is that people have been dissatisfied with the CEO's (or equivalent) performance since rugby league existed.

Rugby League has been squandering opportunities and dealing with in-fighting since 1908, and it wasn't going to change on Greenberg's watch.

His main failing I think is that he was easy to dislike. Your average mug punter wouldn't honestly have any clue whether or not Greeberg was a good CEO, they wouldn't even know what the CEO's KPIs were and how he was performing against those. Mug punters only absorb the "at surface" items like "I didn't like the bunker" or "refs are doing a bad job" and then pointing back at the CEO.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a mug punter too, but I won't claim to know if Greenberg was actually any good at his job. All I can say is he lost the popularity contest.

All this other stuff, e.g. the cost of running the NRL - that's just reality of big income. Sure head office could have been more cost-effective in squirreling away funds, but that is true of any management and most of them spend within their means (i.e. if their means grow, so do their spending).

Similarly look at any given club and how much money they spend on non-player salaries since the salary cap was bumped up over the last 2 broadcast deals.

This latest report about missing funds, we are talking very small sums here. Certainly the accounting needs to be 100% accurate, but it's not enough to topple a CEO, and I'd challenge anyone to be certain that no other missing funds ever occurred within rugby league headquarters or any other state branch.

So keep in mind this almost excessive "fan celebration" in regards to Greenberg in 3-4 years when the next bloke has gotten his hands dirty and rugby league hasn't magically been fixed or cured of it's historical ills.

"Small sums of cash" might well sum up his latest stuff-up but where the hell is this $500 000 A DAY ending up? That is an astonishing figure. I'm willing to bet he's been skimming money for a while now, that's why he seems happy enough to walk away quietly before a real investigation into this exhorbitant spending got underway. He got off lightly IMO, very lightly.

Where has this 500k a day number even come from? NRL’d administration cost last year was $60k a day on average. To even get close to 500k a day you have to add game day costs, sponsorship, player welfare etc.

$500k a day is yet another thing being pushed by the media who wanted him out.

That is exactly what they did, they have even included match day hospitality for sponsors which cost $102m but brought in $205m last year.

Exactly mate. Looking at the number $500k a day without knowing the whole context is pointless. It’s a throwaway stat posted by the media to get Todd out.

I’m not even a fan of the bloke just think he’s copping some crap unfairly. If you look at the actual money he’s brought to the game it’s been good. Revenue in almost every area has gone up since he’s been in charge + has introduced the women’s game, international footy has grown and state of origin is growing nationally.

Biggest problem is that he didn’t have money put away for the virus - something a lot of businesses also didn’t do. It was never planned and now they’ve had to take a loan out because of it which isn’t good. Plus the Inglis and Cameron Smith stuff just looks bad as well.

Not having a proper CEO when the business could collapse due to the virus also doesn’t seem like a good idea to me

How has international footy grown?
How has State Of Origin grown nationally?....crowds are down for Origin, especially in NSW.
Not having a go at you mate, people who think Greenberg has been unfairly targetted aren't really stating much of a case for their arguments. Most people are of the opinion that the game has nosedived rapidly and considerably in many areas during Greenberg's reign.

More international games with more viewers than ever, there’s been more interest in international footy since a long time.

State of origin taken to other states with sold out crowds growing the game nationally plus women’s state of origin a big success.

I’m not even a fan of the bloke but the amount of people calling him the worst ever based off channel 9 articles (who wanted him gone) is laughable

I'm not basing my opinion of him being the worst RL CEO ever off of channel 9 articles. I'm basing my opinion of his tenure on his demonstrated inability to do his job properly. Nearly every decision he has made has been bad IMO. Getting paid over a million dollars a year to made continued poor decisions, blatant favouritism, demonstrated double-standards etc is laughable. He should never have got the job, his time at Canterbury wasn't exactly stellar and without dubious decisions involving some very important issues.

What decision of his didn’t you like? Besides the obvious ones like Inglis and Smith, which business decisions didn’t you like? That is what a CEO does after all.

He got appointed CEO because at the time he was considered the best club CEO. His issue at dogs was covering up the Ben Barba issues

You just answered your own question. Do you think what he did at the Bulldogs re: Barba's actions meant he should've been immediately scrapped as a potential candidate for the NRL CEO position? Yep. So do I.
That should of been done deal at that point right there.


He almost zero relavent experience or qualifications. NRL grabbed him because they thought it would be a cheap option. Was always in over his head and was always completely reactionary.

I hope they have learned their lesson.
 
@Fade-To-Black said in [GREENBERG GONE\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1144525) said:
@innsaneink said in [GREENBERG GONE\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1144516) said:
@Fade-To-Black said in [GREENBERG GONE\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1144496) said:
@innsaneink said in [GREENBERG GONE\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1144489) said:
People (ftb) Should be careful throwing out malicious/legal accusations

Legal accusations?

Don't play dumb... Accusations of fraud & theft

I've seen forilums shut down for less before... This isn't my go but when I see stupid posts like yours the damage can be irepairable

?Opinions?

Your posts were deleted for good reason. It's no laughing matter.
 
Alright, will one of the mods please do me a favour? Can they please message me what in my post qualified as slander? Because I have posted posts like that dozens of times, and I cannot see the difference.
 
@Fade-To-Black said in [GREENBERG GONE\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1144525) said:
@innsaneink said in [GREENBERG GONE\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1144516) said:
@Fade-To-Black said in [GREENBERG GONE\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1144496) said:
@innsaneink said in [GREENBERG GONE\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1144489) said:
People (ftb) Should be careful throwing out malicious/legal accusations

Legal accusations?

Don't play dumb... Accusations of fraud & theft

I've seen forilums shut down for less before... This isn't my go but when I see stupid posts like yours the damage can be irepairable

?Opinions?

Accusations... It's called slander
 
I believe the results of any organisation comes down to the CEO. The onfield product has suffered massively since he came into power and I'm pleased his gone.
 
@JD-Tiger said in [GREENBERG GONE\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1144538) said:
Alright, will one of the mods please do me a favour? Can they please message me what in my post qualified as slander? Because I have posted posts like that dozens of times, and I cannot see the difference.

And thank you mods, yes I used a poor choice of words and left my words open to an interpretation that I did not intend.

Greenburg, good riddance. I would have liked it if he was directly caught doing something wrong and kicked out. Of course this did not happen, he was not (to my knowledge) caught doing anything wrong.

Anyway, fingers crossed we have some good luck and the replacement does wonders for the game.
 
@gallagher said in [GREENBERG GONE\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1144551) said:
I believe the results of any organisation comes down to the CEO. The onfield product has suffered massively since he came into power and I'm pleased his gone.

Spot on! 👌
 
Some people r defending him online...saying all the gold he brought in... macklemore....womens footy... and that's about all


Next person please
 
Don't worry, it has been pointed out that Abdo was the genius behind this years simply the best advertising campaign.

I don't know how much of the detail came from him, but does not auger well.
 
@TheDaBoss said in [GREENBERG GONE\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1144568) said:
Also

Apparently Crowe has phoned vlandys saying that Shane Richardson is the right person for the job...

I wouldn't want anyone who has any leads towards any clubs.
 
Glad he is gone and hope we can get better equality through decisions for all clubs not just a few.
VLandy is doing a great job for the NRL
 
@swag_tiger said in [GREENBERG GONE\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1144569) said:
@TheDaBoss said in [GREENBERG GONE\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1144568) said:
Also

Apparently Crowe has phoned vlandys saying that Shane Richardson is the right person for the job...

I wouldn't want anyone who has any leads towards any clubs.

Yep

Someone who is neutral
 
Think he stayed a year too long. Didn't really like him from the start either.
But I do think a ceo of any company is always going to wear the brunt of criticism . I do think nrl have poor systems which is why they are reactionary sometimes shooting themselves in the foot.
 
@happy_tiger said in [GREENBERG GONE\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1144578) said:
Did anyone hear the numbers on Fox tonight ..the EPL has 170 in it's Head Offiice ..... the NRL 470

Hap, it’s a long time coming.
 
@happy_tiger said in [GREENBERG GONE\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1144578) said:
Did anyone hear the numbers on Fox tonight ..the EPL has 170 in it's Head Offiice ..... the NRL 470

Paul White will save the NRL... Well, that's what news ltd will start pushing out soon.
 
@WT2K said in [GREENBERG GONE\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1144584) said:
@happy_tiger said in [GREENBERG GONE\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1144578) said:
Did anyone hear the numbers on Fox tonight ..the EPL has 170 in it's Head Offiice ..... the NRL 470

Paul White will save the NRL... Well, that's what news ltd will start pushing out soon.

Nah Bwaiff was right for once ......whoever gets the role can't have had a previous agenda within the NRL ...we need someone from behind the scenes with business nous and footy sense ...but clearly the people they put in place behind themselves is crucial

The other critical part is as Bwaiff said they must have respect from the clubs , media and fans

We need a clear direction moving forward , the next CEO will be arguably the biggest decision the ARLC makes in its short history
 

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