Groat Injured!

[happy_tiger]

http://www.weststigers.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&id=50323

Indefinate Knee Injury… hmm might do him the world of good to be off for a while.

Moops!

Moops!

Moops!

Thats a pathetic statement….lets hope you dont get a serious injury any time soon eh?

I don't think Underdog meant it that way Ink

Not his style imo mate He does have some class

Well he's already clarified it himself so now Im sure he didnt mean it that way.

Just watching the last bit of the parra game….I thought Bell was off at that stage??
He was there for most of it.

And doesnt Groat have a strnge running style....a bit like barefoot on hot coals :laughing:

Sorry must've missed his reply
Yeah strange to see a big guy up on his toes like that A bit Weymanish but with a bigger stride

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

Getting a full time job at a Aldi would help groats development. Serious pretender. Would rather Gibbs or fifita

I'm afraid I have to agree with you, both fifita and gibbs playing better 2 months in. Gibbs you would expect him but Fifita is a rock in the Cronulla pack. However in the long term I really dont know who will do better fifita or groat.

 

[underdog]

Sorry must've missed his reply
Yeah strange to see a big guy up on his toes like that A bit Weymanish but with a bigger stride

Jason Cayless anyone? Thats who he reminds me of.. kind of soft feet and a slight twinkle in his toes. :mrgreen:

 

[hybrid_tiger]

Getting a full time job at a Aldi would help groats development. Serious pretender. Would rather Gibbs or fifita

I'm afraid I have to agree with you, both fifita and gibbs playing better 2 months in. Gibbs you would expect him but Fifita is a rock in the Cronulla pack. However in the long term I really dont know who will do better fifita or groat.

Fifita has done SFA at the Sharks.

 

[everett]

I hope Groat's injury is not serious.

Groat has been a victim of our stupid recruitment policies.

We let Gibbs, Fifita go on top of Payten's retirement and Dwyer's long term injury.

We buy Bell (who has been great) and Blair (hasn't been that good to be honest).

Groat has played NRL sooner than expected.

I would like him to play in Under 20's and dominate then State Cup playing against men and improving his fitness and game time.

Maybe 2013 we can see him back on the bench for NRL.

Moors, Bell and Cashmere at this stage of their careers are much better than Groat at his current age and experience.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Sorry must've missed his reply
Yeah strange to see a big guy up on his toes like that A bit Weymanish but with a bigger stride

Jason Cayless anyone? Thats who he reminds me of.. kind of soft feet and a slight twinkle in his toes. :mrgreen:

Theres probably a reason for that. He had a boyle just to the left of his groin

 

[Gary_Bakerloo]

I hope Groat's injury is not serious.

Groat has been a victim of our stupid recruitment policies.

We let Gibbs, Fifita go on top of Payten's retirement and Dwyer's long term injury.

We buy Bell (who has been great) and Blair (hasn't been that good to be honest).

Groat has played NRL sooner than expected.

I would like him to play in Under 20's and dominate then State Cup playing against men and improving his fitness and game time.

Maybe 2013 we can see him back on the bench for NRL.

Moors, Bell and Cashmere at this stage of their careers are much better than Groat at his current age and experience.

I understand the logic of this career progression, but for players of the quality of Groat, I am not entirely sure. He is an Australian Schoolboy representative and clearly has potential. Development of players comes from experiences and competition. He needs the right environment to challenge himself to further develop.

Should he play under 20's? No, he has clearly surpassed that level and there is nothing left to be learned here.

Should he play State Cup? Is that the best development area for an Australian Schoolboy Rep? Hanging around a bunch of Nevilles who aren't quite up to standard is not the best for a 20 year old. He will be an NRL front rower, so why place him in State Cup where he can pick up nasty habits and complacency.

Sure, the odd game in State Cup as a punishment would have some effect, but he needs to play NRL to realise his full potential, which is significant. He needs to be sat on his backside a few times by experienced hard nosed props etc to learn.

Example? Well look no further than Skando. First grade debut at the age of 19\. He was not an Australian Schoolboy rep, but even at that tender age, everyone knew he would cut it in first grade. There was no point playing reserve grade or under 23's - the more first grade he played, the better he became.

 

[saundo55]

Know one of the players at Cronulla reckons Gibbs is good value and Fifita is up himself - something about divided dressing room
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[benji_6]

I have a feeling Groat will play 20s this week. Sheens did the same thing with Miller remember? Said he had a groin injury but he played 20s the next week.

 

[tiga4eva]

Know one of the players at Cronulla reckons Gibbs is good value and Fifita is up himself - something about divided dressing room
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[Knuckles]

This kid has just turned 20, is trying hard to play in a high profile team in the front row, in the toughest competition in the world and people are giving it to him.

Yeah spot on Swordy … Groaty will make the grade ... Just a matter of time.

 

[Knuckles]

Should he play State Cup? Is that the best development area for an Australian Schoolboy Rep? Hanging around a bunch of Nevilles who aren't quite up to standard is not the best for a 20 year old. He will be an NRL front rower, so why place him in State Cup where he can pick up nasty habits .

Couldn't agree more Gaz … The state cup needs to be overhauled or scrapped altogether. It is failing the likes of young forward like Groaty ... In his case the step up from under 20's has been too great. But I am confident he will still make the big time.

 

[badger]

I recon there are definatly some parralels between Groat and the early stages of Gibb's develoement. They both have problematic areas of thier games but seem willing to work at and above all they both have the support of the coach who is willing to persist with him with a view to the future and bigger picture. It seems obvious that BMM and Moores are both playing better footy than Groat at the moment but I recon sheens has definately sees somethig he likes in Groats game and an injury now could be a serious hinderance to his developement as a player but may also be a learning curve as to the riggers of first grade footy and injury management ect I wish him a speedy recovery.

 

[Blackandwhite]

I have a feeling Groat will play 20s this week. Sheens did the same thing with Miller remember? Said he had a groin injury but he played 20s the next week.

No Groaty has a genuine injury Meniscus tear. Not sure how bad it is at best out for 4-6 weeks.

 

[izotope]

i feel sorry for the kid but i have to admit when i heard he was injured my first thought was "beauty moors!"