Harry Grant

This drama is gonna drag on all year and most likely we won’t know until after the season is over, no reason to stress about it for now let’s just enjoy his performances
 
One of our biggest problems here is Simpkins is missing a whole year of development. Grant had a couple of of years in Qld cup to acclimatise and dominate and he ready for nrl. This should be Simpkins first full year playing men, instead he's got a year of training.

Cam has been average at halfback tonight. Despite u the commentators going nuts about every fart he makes. Against a good team yes, but the Storm attack has been poor, only scoring from intercepts
 
I reckon it will come down to the system he wants to play in. Melbourne a little more structured, is a little more freedom.
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [Harry Grant](/post/1173040) said:
@StarswithStripes said in [Harry Grant](/post/1173031) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Harry Grant](/post/1172904) said:
One of Harry’s best assets is his effort plays, always pops up where you need him to. Always chasing kicks, backing up players, scrambling across to make tackles etc. one of the best things a player can have

Sounds like time is short and we won’t be keeping Harry. I just hope we make the most of the time we have with him as a team and make the eight.

I agree we need to make the most of it

Let's make the most of it and win the grand final please 🙂
 
Momorovski making a habit of scoring tries
It was a very important one for the storm tonight
Keep it up mate
You might just get us into a trade position with some bargaining power
 
@Cairnstigers said in [Harry Grant](/post/1173151) said:
Momorovski making a habit of scoring tries
It was a very important one for the storm tonight
Keep it up mate
You might just get us into a trade position with some bargaining power

Exactly!
 
@Curaeus said in [Harry Grant](/post/1173154) said:
@Cairnstigers said in [Harry Grant](/post/1173151) said:
Momorovski making a habit of scoring tries
It was a very important one for the storm tonight
Keep it up mate
You might just get us into a trade position with some bargaining power

Exactly!

I doubt it. Who would you rather?
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Harry Grant](/post/1173163) said:
@Curaeus said in [Harry Grant](/post/1173154) said:
@Cairnstigers said in [Harry Grant](/post/1173151) said:
Momorovski making a habit of scoring tries
It was a very important one for the storm tonight
Keep it up mate
You might just get us into a trade position with some bargaining power

Exactly!

I doubt it. Who would you rather?

Well we need a good Hooker so that would be Grant
Melbourne already have a good Hooker, the best Hooker actually and his name is Cameron Smith
Momorovski is doing a great job for Melbourne in the Centres and if that continues it can only help our cause
Dont forget Vunavalu is leaving and the Fox is on his way out
Melbourne will be short of backs and Momorovski could help solve that problem
But that's just my opinion
 
@Cairnstigers said in [Harry Grant](/post/1173171) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Harry Grant](/post/1173163) said:
@Curaeus said in [Harry Grant](/post/1173154) said:
@Cairnstigers said in [Harry Grant](/post/1173151) said:
Momorovski making a habit of scoring tries
It was a very important one for the storm tonight
Keep it up mate
You might just get us into a trade position with some bargaining power

Exactly!

I doubt it. Who would you rather?

Well we need a good Hooker so that would be Grant
Melbourne already have a good Hooker, the best Hooker actually and his name is Cameron Smith
Momorovski is doing a great job for Melbourne in the Centres and if that continues it can only help our cause
Dont forget Vunavalu is leaving and the Fox is on his way out
Melbourne will be short of backs and Momorovski could help solve that problem
But that's just my opinion

I think I’d take Brandon over Cameron right now tbh
 
Not sure if this has been asked/answered here, but it is becoming more and more obvious that Grant for real and potentially a serious, bigtime player in the offing: is there anything we can possibly do as a club to ensure the best possible chances of retaining him?
 
Going back to that Cronk comment, what annoys me even more is that when Cronk left the Storm he had the opportunity to go to a less successful club and potentially improve their fortunes, perhaps even be an encouragement other good footballers to sign on.

There weren't tonnes of clubs that could have afforded Cronk, but there were a few.

But he signs for the team that's already consistently featuring at the end of the year, who have just signed up the best fullback in the comp.

He starts with an established good side, containing some of the GOATs, then leaves for the only other team that has a strike rate anywhere near as good as Melbourne's. I can understand that but can't respect it, nor can I respect his comments.

The truly best players, the ones that are universally admired, take non-established clubs with them on their journey to greatness.
 
@jirskyr said in [Harry Grant](/post/1173199) said:
Going back to that Cronk comment, what annoys me even more is that when Cronk left the Storm he had the opportunity to go to a less successful club and potentially improve their fortunes, perhaps even be an encouragement other good footballers to sign on.

There weren't tonnes of clubs that could have afforded Cronk, but there were a few.

But he signs for the team that's already consistently featuring at the end of the year, who have just signed up the best fullback in the comp.

He starts with an established good side, containing some of the GOATs, then leaves for the only other team that has a strike rate anywhere near as good as Melbourne's. I can understand that but can't respect it, nor can I respect his comments.

The truly best players, the ones that are universally admired, take non-established clubs with them on their journey to greatness.

For someone that is admired by many for putting in the hard work to get to the top, it's kind of ironic that he promotes success the fast, easy way.
 
@rustycage said in [Harry Grant](/post/1173219) said:
@jirskyr said in [Harry Grant](/post/1173199) said:
Going back to that Cronk comment, what annoys me even more is that when Cronk left the Storm he had the opportunity to go to a less successful club and potentially improve their fortunes, perhaps even be an encouragement other good footballers to sign on.

There weren't tonnes of clubs that could have afforded Cronk, but there were a few.

But he signs for the team that's already consistently featuring at the end of the year, who have just signed up the best fullback in the comp.

He starts with an established good side, containing some of the GOATs, then leaves for the only other team that has a strike rate anywhere near as good as Melbourne's. I can understand that but can't respect it, nor can I respect his comments.

The truly best players, the ones that are universally admired, take non-established clubs with them on their journey to greatness.

For someone that is admired by many for putting in the hard work to get to the top, it's kind of ironic that he promotes success the fast, easy way.

So true. Then he goes on to say he would've only played 150 games if he was at another club.

Currently it feels like Grant would only get to 150 if he stays in Melb...he could've easily played 30 by now
 
Yeh, good point, however, I can’t hold it against Cronk for not wanting another GF and ending his playing days on a high. The alternative for him would be to join a struggling Sydney club, which hasn’t played finals footy for a decade, in the hope of competing in the playoffs.? At the end of his career, considering all the sacrifices, pain and suffering, which have delivered his success, in all reality would ANY half want to work behind a pack which is incapable of delivering a top class performance ?
 
@jirskyr said in [Harry Grant](/post/1173199) said:
He starts with an established good side, containing some of the GOATs, then leaves for the only other team that has a strike rate anywhere near as good as Melbourne’s. I can understand that but can’t respect it, nor can I respect his comments.

My interpretation is that Cronk is basically saying that he was a decent half back only, and that he had to play in great teams in order to make him look good.

Accordingly, if he played in a struggle-street team like the Tigers, his career would probably have lasted only 100 games or so.

Which means, that if he had joined the WT instead of Easts a few years back, his lack of greatness would have been obvious to all and his reputation would have been tarnished.

In providing his self-serving advice to Grant (which he dresses up as "fatherly" advice to a rookie) he not only denigrates our club and our coach, he also denigrates himself as a player.

However, Harry Grant is more than just a decent dummy half. Rather, he appears destined for greatness, and I would back him to shine in any company. Unlike Cronk, he doesn't need great players around him to make him look good.
 
@fibrodreaming said in [Harry Grant](/post/1173238) said:
@jirskyr said in [Harry Grant](/post/1173199) said:
He starts with an established good side, containing some of the GOATs, then leaves for the only other team that has a strike rate anywhere near as good as Melbourne’s. I can understand that but can’t respect it, nor can I respect his comments.

My interpretation is that Cronk is basically saying that he was a decent half back only, and that he had to play in great teams in order to make him look good.

Accordingly, if he played in a struggle-street team like the Tigers, his career would probably have lasted only 100 games or so.

Which means, that if he had joined the WT instead of Easts a few years back, his lack of greatness would have been obvious to all and his reputation would have been tarnished.

In providing his self-serving advice to Grant (which he dresses up as "fatherly" advice to a rookie) he not only denigrates our club and our coach, he also denigrates himself as a player.

However, Harry Grant is more than just a decent dummy half. Rather, he appears destined for greatness, and I would back him to shine in any company. Unlike Cronk, he doesn't need great players around him to make him look good.

Think you’re being a bit harsh on Cronks ability he was a terrific halfback. His career would’ve been different if we was at a weaker club no doubt but he was still fantastic as a player, showed it at origin level and Australian level too.
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [Harry Grant](/post/1173255) said:
@fibrodreaming said in [Harry Grant](/post/1173238) said:
@jirskyr said in [Harry Grant](/post/1173199) said:
He starts with an established good side, containing some of the GOATs, then leaves for the only other team that has a strike rate anywhere near as good as Melbourne’s. I can understand that but can’t respect it, nor can I respect his comments.

My interpretation is that Cronk is basically saying that he was a decent half back only, and that he had to play in great teams in order to make him look good.

Accordingly, if he played in a struggle-street team like the Tigers, his career would probably have lasted only 100 games or so.

Which means, that if he had joined the WT instead of Easts a few years back, his lack of greatness would have been obvious to all and his reputation would have been tarnished.

In providing his self-serving advice to Grant (which he dresses up as "fatherly" advice to a rookie) he not only denigrates our club and our coach, he also denigrates himself as a player.

However, Harry Grant is more than just a decent dummy half. Rather, he appears destined for greatness, and I would back him to shine in any company. Unlike Cronk, he doesn't need great players around him to make him look good.

Think you’re being a bit harsh on Cronks ability he was a terrific halfback. His career would’ve been different if we was at a weaker club no doubt but **he was still fantastic as a player, showed it at origin level and Australian level too.**

you mean, in other great teams?
 
I prefer Bwaith's commentary over Cronk's manufactured faux excitability. With Anasta "it is what is" and his clangers are unscripted and add a bit to the game-as opposed Cronk who seems to be reading from his exercise book and trying to prove without success that he is the smartest kid on the block.
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [Harry Grant](/post/1173255) said:
@fibrodreaming said in [Harry Grant](/post/1173238) said:
@jirskyr said in [Harry Grant](/post/1173199) said:
He starts with an established good side, containing some of the GOATs, then leaves for the only other team that has a strike rate anywhere near as good as Melbourne’s. I can understand that but can’t respect it, nor can I respect his comments.

My interpretation is that Cronk is basically saying that he was a decent half back only, and that he had to play in great teams in order to make him look good.

Accordingly, if he played in a struggle-street team like the Tigers, his career would probably have lasted only 100 games or so.

Which means, that if he had joined the WT instead of Easts a few years back, his lack of greatness would have been obvious to all and his reputation would have been tarnished.

In providing his self-serving advice to Grant (which he dresses up as "fatherly" advice to a rookie) he not only denigrates our club and our coach, he also denigrates himself as a player.

However, Harry Grant is more than just a decent dummy half. Rather, he appears destined for greatness, and I would back him to shine in any company. Unlike Cronk, he doesn't need great players around him to make him look good.

Think you’re being a bit harsh on Cronks ability he was a terrific halfback. His career would’ve been different if we was at a weaker club no doubt but he was still fantastic as a player, showed it at origin level and Australian level too.

Cronk is a very smart footballer with a good kicking game that surrounded himself with the best players his entire career. If he had have chosen the Wests Tigers rather than the Melbourne Storm I don't think he'd have had the storied career he has.
 

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