Harry Grant

@Earl said in [Harry Grant](/post/1249930) said:
@Speed2burn said in [Harry Grant](/post/1249925) said:
Just don’t get the Liddle bashing from certain people

The thing is Liddle has a really nice pass and he is quick. He could be a really good player.

Read somewhere he is the fastest in the club, won all the sprints etc

Not sure how true it would be after his knee injuries, think it was last years pre season. But pace is good
 
I would love Grant to be here long term but very very unlikely as Storm will keep him..
However moving forward having Liddle at 9 and Simpkins at 14 would be perfect for both as gives Liddle a chance to lock down the 9 and also gives Simpkins a chance to show what he is made of until he develops. Simpkins might actually be another diamond in the rough type of guy but feel very content with these 2 if Grant doesn't come through.
 
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Harry Grant](/post/1249904) said:
Just don't think Liddle is worth an extension given injury etc we have Simpkin and can likely put Liddle money elsewhere.
I do get a bit sick on hear some people saying we will not lose anything with Liddle over Grant that is ridiculous.
Agree in making best out of a bad situation would rather Simpkin kicks on ahead of Liddle and hope Simpkin turns out to be another Harry Grant


Tigers fans: Lets get rid of a player in a key position that has already proven to be at a minimum above average in that position for a completely untested kid who has never played first grade.

Also Tigers Fans: waaaaaaaaahhhhh Papenhuysen, Tapau, JAC, Paseka....😢 😢 😢
 
@Speed2burn said in [Harry Grant](/post/1249928) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Harry Grant](/post/1249923) said:
Good chance Harry wins Dally M rookie of the year - could even win Hooker of the year or even player of the year

Probably Api for hooker of the year considering where penrith ended up, I wouldn’t bank on him winning ROTY either, Chricton has had a pretty amazing year too

Too many good players in Penrith api won’t get points consistently. Harry stood out for us so he’ll get more points
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [Harry Grant](/post/1249940) said:
@Speed2burn said in [Harry Grant](/post/1249928) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Harry Grant](/post/1249923) said:
Good chance Harry wins Dally M rookie of the year - could even win Hooker of the year or even player of the year

Probably Api for hooker of the year considering where penrith ended up, I wouldn’t bank on him winning ROTY either, Chricton has had a pretty amazing year too

Too many good players in Penrith api won’t get points consistently. Harry stood out for us so he’ll get more points


Pretty much points out why the dally m system is flawed
 
@Speed2burn said in [Harry Grant](/post/1249941) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Harry Grant](/post/1249940) said:
@Speed2burn said in [Harry Grant](/post/1249928) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Harry Grant](/post/1249923) said:
Good chance Harry wins Dally M rookie of the year - could even win Hooker of the year or even player of the year

Probably Api for hooker of the year considering where penrith ended up, I wouldn’t bank on him winning ROTY either, Chricton has had a pretty amazing year too

Too many good players in Penrith api won’t get points consistently. Harry stood out for us so he’ll get more points


Pretty much points out why the dally m system is flawed

Yeah it’s a pretty crap system
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [Harry Grant](/post/1249944) said:
@Speed2burn said in [Harry Grant](/post/1249941) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Harry Grant](/post/1249940) said:
@Speed2burn said in [Harry Grant](/post/1249928) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Harry Grant](/post/1249923) said:
Good chance Harry wins Dally M rookie of the year - could even win Hooker of the year or even player of the year

Probably Api for hooker of the year considering where penrith ended up, I wouldn’t bank on him winning ROTY either, Chricton has had a pretty amazing year too

Too many good players in Penrith api won’t get points consistently. Harry stood out for us so he’ll get more points


Pretty much points out why the dally m system is flawed

Yeah it’s a pretty crap system

Luke Brooks rejects your opinion ?
 
@happy_tiger said in [Harry Grant](/post/1249931) said:
@Earl said in [Harry Grant](/post/1249930) said:
@Speed2burn said in [Harry Grant](/post/1249925) said:
Just don’t get the Liddle bashing from certain people

Grant to me is a proven quality NRL player whereas Liddle isn't just yet. The thing is Liddle has a really nice pass and he is quick. He could be a really good player.

Earl is right ...he needs a 20 + game season before you can make a call .....you need to see what happens once fatigue kicks in

Interesting comment given Harry Grant has only played 15 FG games in 2020 and 17 games his entire career. Liddle has played 44 games.
 
@jirskyr said in [Harry Grant](/post/1249946) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Harry Grant](/post/1249931) said:
@Earl said in [Harry Grant](/post/1249930) said:
@Speed2burn said in [Harry Grant](/post/1249925) said:
Just don’t get the Liddle bashing from certain people

Grant to me is a proven quality NRL player whereas Liddle isn't just yet. The thing is Liddle has a really nice pass and he is quick. He could be a really good player.

Earl is right ...he needs a 20 + game season before you can make a call .....you need to see what happens once fatigue kicks in

Interesting comment given Harry Grant has only played 15 FG games in 2020 and 17 games his entire career. **Liddle has played 44 games.**

Those games have been stretched out over 4 years with about 90% of the time starting off the bench.
I like Liddle though, entirely different type of hooker than Grant, all depends on how he holds up injury wise.
 
Could you not have Simpkin and have Mmbye as a bench spot covers most positions in backine and hooker use Liddle money elsewhere for 2022
 
all these people talking about an untested hooker in Simpmins, Robbie Farah was untested once so was Cameron Smith and Harry Grant.
Newcastle took a risk with Ponga, we may well have another Harry Grant in Simpkins you never know hope he gets some chance in 2021
 
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Harry Grant](/post/1249958) said:
Could you not have Simpkin and have Mmbye as a bench spot covers most positions in backine and hooker use Liddle money elsewhere for 2022

Yep and if Simpkin goes down for the season in the first couple of games...

We have Mbye as our DH for the almost the entire season.

Good luck with that.
 
we also have Mmbye and walters for 2022 to cover hooker if Simpkins gets hurt use the Liddle 350k or so money to upgrade for Staggs or go all in for a Munster or something in 2022 if we dont have Packer and Reynolds on the books
 
@cktiger said in [Harry Grant](/post/1249951) said:
@jirskyr said in [Harry Grant](/post/1249946) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Harry Grant](/post/1249931) said:
@Earl said in [Harry Grant](/post/1249930) said:
@Speed2burn said in [Harry Grant](/post/1249925) said:
Just don’t get the Liddle bashing from certain people

Grant to me is a proven quality NRL player whereas Liddle isn't just yet. The thing is Liddle has a really nice pass and he is quick. He could be a really good player.

Earl is right ...he needs a 20 + game season before you can make a call .....you need to see what happens once fatigue kicks in

Interesting comment given Harry Grant has only played 15 FG games in 2020 and 17 games his entire career. **Liddle has played 44 games.**

Those games have been stretched out over 4 years with about 90% of the time starting off the bench.
I like Liddle though, entirely different type of hooker than Grant, all depends on how he holds up injury wise.

Liddle has had 2 seasons of 13 matches and one of 11. Harry Grant has had one of 15. I can hardly see those as being different indicators of season-long capacity.

Don't get me wrong, Liddle is certainly short of a gallop year-on-year, but this is a thread originally about Harry Grant and I am responding specifically to Happy's comment about 20+ game seasons in light of judging the ability of Harry Grant.

In fact I personally believe Harry Grant broke down over his 15 matches, commendably so, but his style of play, I would personally say I have as many concerns for Grant's longevity as Liddle's. Liddle might be a bit frail and injury-prone due to his stature, but Harry Grant throws himself around so much he might also be at risk of not seeing out seasons.
 
@cktiger said in [Harry Grant](/post/1249951) said:
@jirskyr said in [Harry Grant](/post/1249946) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Harry Grant](/post/1249931) said:
@Earl said in [Harry Grant](/post/1249930) said:
@Speed2burn said in [Harry Grant](/post/1249925) said:
Just don’t get the Liddle bashing from certain people

Grant to me is a proven quality NRL player whereas Liddle isn't just yet. The thing is Liddle has a really nice pass and he is quick. He could be a really good player.

Earl is right ...he needs a 20 + game season before you can make a call .....you need to see what happens once fatigue kicks in

Interesting comment given Harry Grant has only played 15 FG games in 2020 and 17 games his entire career. **Liddle has played 44 games.**

Those games have been stretched out over 4 years with about 90% of the time starting off the bench.
I like Liddle though, entirely different type of hooker than Grant, all depends on how he holds up injury wise.

Actually 5 seasons
 
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Harry Grant](/post/1249964) said:
we also have Mmbye and walters for 2022 to cover hooker if Simpkins gets hurt use the Liddle 350k or so money to upgrade for Staggs or go all in for a Munster or something in 2022 if we dont have Packer and Reynolds on the books

Mbye would be my absolute last resort to play DH. Did you not see him play there?! Terrible

Order of preference

Liddle
Simpkins
Walters

Daylight

Reynolds

More daylight

Mbye

Dummy half is the position we should be having plenty of depth in considering how average we have been there for so long. Nothing wrong with liddle at all.
 
We have Liddle for 2021 so he is not going anywhere hoping 2022 he departs and we can play Simpkin starting. With luck Reynolds will not be there and likely no Walters either so we are stuck with Mmbye as the backup and logical 14
 
@Tiger5150 said in [Harry Grant](/post/1249936) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Harry Grant](/post/1249904) said:
Just don't think Liddle is worth an extension given injury etc we have Simpkin and can likely put Liddle money elsewhere.
I do get a bit sick on hear some people saying we will not lose anything with Liddle over Grant that is ridiculous.
Agree in making best out of a bad situation would rather Simpkin kicks on ahead of Liddle and hope Simpkin turns out to be another Harry Grant


Tigers fans: Lets get rid of a player in a key position that has already proven to be at a minimum above average in that position for a completely untested kid who has never played first grade.

Also Tigers Fans: waaaaaaaaahhhhh Papenhuysen, Tapau, JAC, Paseka....😢 😢 😢

I think Jacob's dog bit Jedi.
 
I think we should sign Harry if the opportunity presents itself. It would appear that some contract talks have stalled until Smith decides on his future. Can’t wait for all the announcements coming from the Storm after the GF.
 
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Harry Grant](/post/1249958) said:
Could you not have Simpkin and have Mmbye as a bench spot covers most positions in backine and hooker use Liddle money elsewhere for 2022

Mmbye is that like MMMBop?
 

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