Tim Sheens
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@Hbom said:
I don't like the dogs either. On the other matter, well little surprises me nowadays.
Havem El Masri charged with domestic violence charges
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I don't like the dogs either. On the other matter, well little surprises me nowadays.
westTAHger
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Let the evidence be presented, and the magistrate make his determination.
We don't know what happened as we were not there.
If it's on video, as reported, it will show what really occurred.
We don't know what happened as we were not there.
If it's on video, as reported, it will show what really occurred.
Byron_Bay_Fan
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I read the charges he is copping is due to actual physical injury so sort of a black and white issue so I don't know what kind of spin that Murphy can put on it, like she self harmed or walked into a door. She may be guilty of all accusations against her but that does not mean that he is not guilty as well, maybe he was sort of provoked, not justifying the response. BTW feel a bit sorry for Murphy he lost tonnes of millions in Great Financial Crisis, maybe became too greedy.
GNR4LIFE
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@Cultured Bogan said:
Not to go over old ground, but him refusing the DNA test in Coffs on the back of his religion proved to me what a spanner he is.
I've always thought quite highly of Hazem but I'll keep an open mind about this situation. Wouldn't be the first community leader to turn out a dirtbag.
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I thought he refused the test because nobody even alleged he was involved and he was nowhere near the scene of any supposed crime in the first place.
The cop who led that investigation basically admitted to being a spanner himself and trying to beat something up to further his career anyway.
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@GNR4LIFE said:
I thought he refused the test because nobody even alleged he was involved and he was nowhere near the scene of any supposed crime in the first place.
The cop who led that investigation basically admitted to being a spanner himself and trying to beat something up to further his career anyway.
Fade_To_Black
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Who knows whether he is guilty or not. Easy for anyone to grin for the camera and pretend to be perfect but what goes on behind closed doors is anyone's guess. Truth is you cannot presume assumption of guilt with any minority group without being considered a racist or whatever. IIRC Hazam was asked to move on from a late-night food joint a decade or so ago and he proceeded with the ' don't you know who I am?' crap and then went to the media claiming that the incident only happened because of his race/religion. If you are carrying on like a knob you will probably be asked to move on regardless of appearance, beliefs etc from what I have seen over the years.
@Fade To Black said:
Refused to provide ID I think to Cops when four blokes including him were sitting in a park late at night.. Houda and hazem went to town playing the racial card
Byron_Bay_Fan
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http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/hazem-el-masri-and-new-wife-split-before-domestic-violence-claim-20151023-gkglgd.html
According to this report it may be clear cut intentional assault. Also it may not have been reported if the cops did not ring back the mother of the estranged bride. If it was not intentional I would not like to see him punished for it. Many such incidents happen marriage that usually are just forgotten for the sake of the love and marriage, but they were already separated.
According to this report it may be clear cut intentional assault. Also it may not have been reported if the cops did not ring back the mother of the estranged bride. If it was not intentional I would not like to see him punished for it. Many such incidents happen marriage that usually are just forgotten for the sake of the love and marriage, but they were already separated.
Fade_To_Black
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@innsaneink said:
And we all know once the race card is played then it is considered taboo to not side with the alleged 'victim'. I see it every single week at my workplace.' Its pathetic.
Byron_Bay_Fan
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-12/video-emerges-of-former-tennis-star-james-blake-wrongly-arrested/6770996
Here tennis player cops it from cops and Blake claims he was a victim due to his race.
But of course it also happens between minorities upon minority. Some minorities are too sensitive and claim they are being victimised when their or their children's fault, as I have witnessed. It goes both ways.
Here tennis player cops it from cops and Blake claims he was a victim due to his race.
But of course it also happens between minorities upon minority. Some minorities are too sensitive and claim they are being victimised when their or their children's fault, as I have witnessed. It goes both ways.
Byron_Bay_Fan
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from the Kennel Forum, Buldogs
**Hazem El Masri's first wife unloads on NRL for not standing by him
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The first wife of Hazem El Masri has launched a stinging attack on the NRL, claiming the governing body should have stuck by the Bulldogs legend while he was waiting to clear his name.\
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El Masri was charged with assaulting former wife Douah El-Cherif during an argument last October, but police dropped the charges during the week. The former NSW and Australian representative was an NRL ambassador but was told to stop making community visits, including one to his son's school, as soon as the charges were laid. When the NRL subsequently released a list of 40 ambassadors for the 2016 season, El Masri wasn't one of them.\
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Club legend: Bulldogs stalwart Hazem El Masri is chaired off the field in his farewell game at ANZ Stadium in 2009.Photo: Steve Christo
El Masri and those close to him are livid the 39-year-old was not afforded a presumption of innocence, particularly given Roosters star Shaun Kenny-Dowall – also cleared of domestic violence charges – was allowed to play on until his case had been finalised.\
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Arwa Abousamra, who has known El Masri for 18 years, and was married to him for 13 of them, slammed former NRL chief executive Dave Smith and his administration for the treatment of the White Ribbon Day ambassador.\
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"This is for the next generation of NRL players," Abousamra wrote in a letter provided to Fairfax Media.\
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The right image: Hazem El Masri and his former wife, Arwa Abousamra, in 2009.Photo: Steve Christo
"This is to clear the air about loyalty. The knee-jerk reaction last year by departed NRL CEO David Smith was nothing short of shameful, but personally I wasn't shocked. You see, I have witnessed this sort of thing my whole life.\
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"It took him less than a second to brand Hazem El Masri guilty without a giving him the benefit of the doubt and standing him down from any appearances, effective immediately. The NRL has such a terrible track record amongst those of us who know how they operate. Just ask the hundreds of retired players that were simply shown the door after years of service and entertainment that raked in millions in profits for that organisation and its clubs. The NRL isn't renowned for its loyalty to its players, it's more loyal to the bottom line, and it will sell you the family image without flinching.\
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"You see, when it had to jump and fix its dirty image from players getting up to no good they would almost like a flash call on the honourable and loyal members who do the right thing all the time…like Hazem El Masri. With all their shameful displays, he never abandoned ship.\
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Not guilty plea: Hazem El Masri, centre, arrives at Bankstown Local Court last October.Photo: Peter Rae
"But now when this long-serving soldier for the greater cause of the community needed that faith returned to him, he was shut down and dismissed without being proven guilty. If you want to know what loyalty looks like, you will not find it at the NRL, the only organisation I know of that continuously fails at looking after its own.\
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"Just take a look at the countless retired players who suffered post retirement and in life after footy due to the NRL's lack of leadership and preparation for its players. They were simply unprepared for that fall from grace, because real life isn't a grassy pitch with thousands of people cheering for you.\
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"If the NRL wanted to clean up its image, jumping to abandon one of its most loyal players who has served the organisation unwaveringly was the wrong move. The only thing that achieved is countless school kids missing out on having one of the NRL's most vibrant and inspiring facilitators at their school, including his own children.\
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"Instead of waiting for the law to decide, the NRL's actions branded Hazem guilty in the court of public opinion. If you can't rely on the people who have worked with you and know you for over 20 years then who can you rely on?
"Instead they should have started at the root of the problem. Instead of sacking players who mess up when they are on the drink, maybe you shouldn't seek out sponsorship from the alcohol industry.
"If you promote healthy eating through your 'eat well, play well, stay well' program, which Hazem was an ambassador for, then don't seek out sponsorship from the fast-food industry.
"If you want young men to give you the best of their youth then help them plan better for the rest of their lives.
"And that's only a few tips.
"Maybe it is a blessing you resigned, David Smith, you were a cold and out-of-touch leader. As for abandoning Hazem El Masri without proof of guilt…the only thing Hazem is guilty of at this point, is never really being a part of the boys club.
"Loyalty and integrity was never your best selling point. The NRL needs to be more accountable for its champions and take a leaf out of the book of Cricket Australia and the AFL."\
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An NRL spokesperson said El Masri's ambassadorial contract for 2015 was paid in full. It's understood El Masri wants to be reappointed in his ambassadorial roles with the governing body and Canterbury now that his name has been cleared.**
**Hazem El Masri's first wife unloads on NRL for not standing by him
NRL Power Rankings: Round 1
NRL Team of the Week
NRL Previews: Round 2
The first wife of Hazem El Masri has launched a stinging attack on the NRL, claiming the governing body should have stuck by the Bulldogs legend while he was waiting to clear his name.\
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El Masri was charged with assaulting former wife Douah El-Cherif during an argument last October, but police dropped the charges during the week. The former NSW and Australian representative was an NRL ambassador but was told to stop making community visits, including one to his son's school, as soon as the charges were laid. When the NRL subsequently released a list of 40 ambassadors for the 2016 season, El Masri wasn't one of them.\
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Club legend: Bulldogs stalwart Hazem El Masri is chaired off the field in his farewell game at ANZ Stadium in 2009.Photo: Steve Christo
El Masri and those close to him are livid the 39-year-old was not afforded a presumption of innocence, particularly given Roosters star Shaun Kenny-Dowall – also cleared of domestic violence charges – was allowed to play on until his case had been finalised.\
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Arwa Abousamra, who has known El Masri for 18 years, and was married to him for 13 of them, slammed former NRL chief executive Dave Smith and his administration for the treatment of the White Ribbon Day ambassador.\
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"This is for the next generation of NRL players," Abousamra wrote in a letter provided to Fairfax Media.\
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The right image: Hazem El Masri and his former wife, Arwa Abousamra, in 2009.Photo: Steve Christo
"This is to clear the air about loyalty. The knee-jerk reaction last year by departed NRL CEO David Smith was nothing short of shameful, but personally I wasn't shocked. You see, I have witnessed this sort of thing my whole life.\
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"It took him less than a second to brand Hazem El Masri guilty without a giving him the benefit of the doubt and standing him down from any appearances, effective immediately. The NRL has such a terrible track record amongst those of us who know how they operate. Just ask the hundreds of retired players that were simply shown the door after years of service and entertainment that raked in millions in profits for that organisation and its clubs. The NRL isn't renowned for its loyalty to its players, it's more loyal to the bottom line, and it will sell you the family image without flinching.\
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"You see, when it had to jump and fix its dirty image from players getting up to no good they would almost like a flash call on the honourable and loyal members who do the right thing all the time…like Hazem El Masri. With all their shameful displays, he never abandoned ship.\
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Not guilty plea: Hazem El Masri, centre, arrives at Bankstown Local Court last October.Photo: Peter Rae
"But now when this long-serving soldier for the greater cause of the community needed that faith returned to him, he was shut down and dismissed without being proven guilty. If you want to know what loyalty looks like, you will not find it at the NRL, the only organisation I know of that continuously fails at looking after its own.\
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"Just take a look at the countless retired players who suffered post retirement and in life after footy due to the NRL's lack of leadership and preparation for its players. They were simply unprepared for that fall from grace, because real life isn't a grassy pitch with thousands of people cheering for you.\
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"If the NRL wanted to clean up its image, jumping to abandon one of its most loyal players who has served the organisation unwaveringly was the wrong move. The only thing that achieved is countless school kids missing out on having one of the NRL's most vibrant and inspiring facilitators at their school, including his own children.\
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"Instead of waiting for the law to decide, the NRL's actions branded Hazem guilty in the court of public opinion. If you can't rely on the people who have worked with you and know you for over 20 years then who can you rely on?
"Instead they should have started at the root of the problem. Instead of sacking players who mess up when they are on the drink, maybe you shouldn't seek out sponsorship from the alcohol industry.
"If you promote healthy eating through your 'eat well, play well, stay well' program, which Hazem was an ambassador for, then don't seek out sponsorship from the fast-food industry.
"If you want young men to give you the best of their youth then help them plan better for the rest of their lives.
"And that's only a few tips.
"Maybe it is a blessing you resigned, David Smith, you were a cold and out-of-touch leader. As for abandoning Hazem El Masri without proof of guilt…the only thing Hazem is guilty of at this point, is never really being a part of the boys club.
"Loyalty and integrity was never your best selling point. The NRL needs to be more accountable for its champions and take a leaf out of the book of Cricket Australia and the AFL."\
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An NRL spokesperson said El Masri's ambassadorial contract for 2015 was paid in full. It's understood El Masri wants to be reappointed in his ambassadorial roles with the governing body and Canterbury now that his name has been cleared.**
Fade_To_Black
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Wonder what's in it for her?…certainly waited a while to come out flapping her gums. She must be sniffing out some sort of compensation payout.
southerntiger
New member
She came out immediately when he was charged and defended Hazem. How would she be entitled to compensation? Spew your bigoted views elsewhere.
Byron_Bay_Fan
New member
Hazem's wife reminds me of Mamdouh Habib wife, they both come out fighting for their man (or ex) and quite articulate. In a way lucky men.
I love her reference to Pearce and others: "Instead they should have started at the root of the problem. Instead of sacking players who mess up when they are on the drink, maybe you shouldn't seek out sponsorship from the alcohol industry.
I love her reference to Pearce and others: "Instead they should have started at the root of the problem. Instead of sacking players who mess up when they are on the drink, maybe you shouldn't seek out sponsorship from the alcohol industry.
tig_prmz
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yeh she's completely right.
Fade_To_Black
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@southerntiger said:
Keep your thong on. I expressed my view, you express yours. Nothing bigoted about it.
Fade_To_Black
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@Byron Bay Fan said:
BBF, you keep on about the problem of having an alcohol company sponsorship, but the bottom line is some people (NRL players included) can enjoy alcohol without making idiots of themselves,so why tar everyone with the same brush?
While we are at it, maybe we should ban car-manufacturer sponsorship from our sport because mishandled cars kill thousands of people every year. Anything mishandled can cause grief,it is up to the individual to not abuse things IMO. It is called having a brain in your head and being responsible for your OWN actions.
Byron_Bay_Fan
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@Fade To Black said:
I don't think I have specified alcohol company sponsorship, here you are making the same mistake as you did with Hazem's ex, that is putting words in people's mouths that they have not said or making an incorrect statement about them. About Pearce I stated something like alcohol is part of our culture and a social lubricant so we must expect such episodes.
It is recognised that humans don't finish maturity until 28 years old (if then) so there is an argument that alcohol consumption (and cig smoking) should not be allowed until that date when some of us can only make mature decisions then. And if we don't follow such then it is a given that dysfunctional episodes will occur.
Byron_Bay_Fan
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http://www.thekennel.net.au/forum/index.php?threads/hazem-el-masri-rejects-the-nrls-offer.101540/
Hazem el Masri rejects the NRL's offer
dogggie s
A devastated Hazem El Masri has rejected an offer to rejoin the NRL as an ambassador after the governing body offered him a revised contract worth 80 per cent less than the deal he was previously on.
El Masri has had a long association with head office following the completion of his glittering football career, but the relationship came to an abrupt halt after the was charged with assaulting ex-wife Douah El-Cherif. The NRL immediately ordered El Masri to stop making community visits, including one to his son's school, as soon as charges were laid. El Masri cleared his name when police dropped charges last month, with Canterbury immediately welcoming one of their favourite son's back into the fold as an ambassador.
The NRL has been much slower in coming to the negotiating table and, when it did, El Masri, was insulted by their offer. The revised deal, worth about $350 per community visit, works out at about $10,000 a year and is approximately 20 per cent of the contract he was previously on.
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Let down: Former NRL star Hazem El Masri. Photo: Peter Rae
Still smarting from the fact the NRL didn't afford him a presumption of innocence - particularly given Roosters star Shaun Kenny-Dowall was allowed to play on while waiting to be cleared in court - there was no way El Masri was going to accept a reduced offer.
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"They have been given another chance to stand by my side and they still haven't. It's hard to take," El Masri told Fairfax Media. "Instead of standing by my side and moving forwards, they have gone backwards. I can't comprehend it, to be honest. It's hard to swallow.
"I am disappointed because I've been loyal for so long, even when the AFL came to [poach] me [as an ambassador]. I've always given 100 per cent. Especially with what happened lately, I have kept it to myself. I don't want to bag anyone, I have a lot of friends in the NRL and I want to continue that [friendship] with some of them. I just don't know what direction they are heading towards."
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Bulldog: Hazem El Masri pictured with his daughter in 2009\. Photo: Mark Nolan
Asked if the NRL had offered an apology for not sticking solid while he was waiting to clear his name, El Masri said: "The only comment they made is that, 'It could have been handled better'. That's not an apology, that's just a way out."
El Masri has gone above and beyond the call of duty during his time as an ambassador, most notably in his efforts to stage the NRL's Harmony Day in Punchbowl four years ago. The former Blues and Kangaroos winger worked tirelessly on the project for three months, saving the NRL about $70,000 by arranging free use of Parry Park with the council, as well as organising the associated catering, rides, prizes and infrastructure.
However, Rugby League Central's decision to put him on the same rate sheet as its other 40 ambassadors means El Masri won't be sharing his story with the members of the community who need to hear it most.
"It's heartbreaking because of the communication I have with kids," he said. "Especially with the flock of refugees coming in … English is their second language. I can relate to that, that's my story. I came to Australia at the age of 12, I had to work my butt off to be able to make a living. It's all about respect, believing in yourself and striving. Dream, believe, achieve – this is what I'm about.
"I came here as a non-English person who had never played the game, I played soccer and then I made the Bulldogs. It's a story to show you can succeed if you just work hard. Language barrier? Don't worry about it. I've experienced everything and I can relate to these kids."
An NRL spokesperson said it had a full complement of ambassadors for 2016, but had decided to offer El Masri up to 25 appearances at the going rate.
"Regrettably, Hazem has declined that offer but we accept his decision," the spokesman said.
El Masri, a former Ken Stephen Medal winner for his services to the community, said he had received strong support from most quarters during the most trying period in his life.
"It's been a very tough time for me, my family and everyone," El Masri said. "The people have been fantastic, they've gotten right behind me. They just want me to be involved in the community. They know what type of person I've been from day one, always taking time out to say hello and put a smile on someone's face.
"I've been through a hell of a lot in my life, probably a lot more than any other player out there because I was part of the Bulldogs team that went through the salary cap dramas, the Super League dramas, the Coffs Harbour dramas.
"Being a Muslim, too, I've been through September 11, the Bali bombings, the Cronulla riots, so many things. But I stood strong because I'm here for everyone."
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BBF: the article states that Hazem was now on about $350 per visit that is only about 20% previously before the trouble. That indicates he was on about $1500 per vist full pay. Not bad remuneration for an arvos work
Hazem el Masri rejects the NRL's offer
dogggie s
A devastated Hazem El Masri has rejected an offer to rejoin the NRL as an ambassador after the governing body offered him a revised contract worth 80 per cent less than the deal he was previously on.
El Masri has had a long association with head office following the completion of his glittering football career, but the relationship came to an abrupt halt after the was charged with assaulting ex-wife Douah El-Cherif. The NRL immediately ordered El Masri to stop making community visits, including one to his son's school, as soon as charges were laid. El Masri cleared his name when police dropped charges last month, with Canterbury immediately welcoming one of their favourite son's back into the fold as an ambassador.
The NRL has been much slower in coming to the negotiating table and, when it did, El Masri, was insulted by their offer. The revised deal, worth about $350 per community visit, works out at about $10,000 a year and is approximately 20 per cent of the contract he was previously on.
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Let down: Former NRL star Hazem El Masri. Photo: Peter Rae
Still smarting from the fact the NRL didn't afford him a presumption of innocence - particularly given Roosters star Shaun Kenny-Dowall was allowed to play on while waiting to be cleared in court - there was no way El Masri was going to accept a reduced offer.
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"They have been given another chance to stand by my side and they still haven't. It's hard to take," El Masri told Fairfax Media. "Instead of standing by my side and moving forwards, they have gone backwards. I can't comprehend it, to be honest. It's hard to swallow.
"I am disappointed because I've been loyal for so long, even when the AFL came to [poach] me [as an ambassador]. I've always given 100 per cent. Especially with what happened lately, I have kept it to myself. I don't want to bag anyone, I have a lot of friends in the NRL and I want to continue that [friendship] with some of them. I just don't know what direction they are heading towards."
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Bulldog: Hazem El Masri pictured with his daughter in 2009\. Photo: Mark Nolan
Asked if the NRL had offered an apology for not sticking solid while he was waiting to clear his name, El Masri said: "The only comment they made is that, 'It could have been handled better'. That's not an apology, that's just a way out."
El Masri has gone above and beyond the call of duty during his time as an ambassador, most notably in his efforts to stage the NRL's Harmony Day in Punchbowl four years ago. The former Blues and Kangaroos winger worked tirelessly on the project for three months, saving the NRL about $70,000 by arranging free use of Parry Park with the council, as well as organising the associated catering, rides, prizes and infrastructure.
However, Rugby League Central's decision to put him on the same rate sheet as its other 40 ambassadors means El Masri won't be sharing his story with the members of the community who need to hear it most.
"It's heartbreaking because of the communication I have with kids," he said. "Especially with the flock of refugees coming in … English is their second language. I can relate to that, that's my story. I came to Australia at the age of 12, I had to work my butt off to be able to make a living. It's all about respect, believing in yourself and striving. Dream, believe, achieve – this is what I'm about.
"I came here as a non-English person who had never played the game, I played soccer and then I made the Bulldogs. It's a story to show you can succeed if you just work hard. Language barrier? Don't worry about it. I've experienced everything and I can relate to these kids."
An NRL spokesperson said it had a full complement of ambassadors for 2016, but had decided to offer El Masri up to 25 appearances at the going rate.
"Regrettably, Hazem has declined that offer but we accept his decision," the spokesman said.
El Masri, a former Ken Stephen Medal winner for his services to the community, said he had received strong support from most quarters during the most trying period in his life.
"It's been a very tough time for me, my family and everyone," El Masri said. "The people have been fantastic, they've gotten right behind me. They just want me to be involved in the community. They know what type of person I've been from day one, always taking time out to say hello and put a smile on someone's face.
"I've been through a hell of a lot in my life, probably a lot more than any other player out there because I was part of the Bulldogs team that went through the salary cap dramas, the Super League dramas, the Coffs Harbour dramas.
"Being a Muslim, too, I've been through September 11, the Bali bombings, the Cronulla riots, so many things. But I stood strong because I'm here for everyone."
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BBF: the article states that Hazem was now on about $350 per visit that is only about 20% previously before the trouble. That indicates he was on about $1500 per vist full pay. Not bad remuneration for an arvos work
