HBG, Independent Directors Sacked

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Tucker said:
I’m not. I check to see what’s going on at night.
For a week and a half the crap being said on here has been very entertaining.
People carrying on like the world was ending.
I find it interesting.
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Nice …although shouldn’t you go somewhere else to talk about the millions displaced and dying in those wars … the stuff that matters ?
 
Tucker said:
I’m not. I check to see what’s going on at night.
For a week and a half the crap being said on here has been very entertaining.
People carrying on like the world was ending.
I find it interesting.
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For some the end is closer than others. That's life.

- weststigers Dec 2025
 
Tucker said:
I’m not. I check to see what’s going on at night.
For a week and a half the crap being said on here has been very entertaining.
People carrying on like the world was ending.
I find it interesting.
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worlds not ending but in a rugby league sense, on a rugby league forum, our position as a club is unprecedented. So not something to be taken lightly in my humble opinion. Obviously others agree.
 
weststigers said:
I don't know what to say other than he's frustrated and clutching. Gary was too polite to correct him.

ASIC can only intervene in very serious circumstances. Think trading while insolvent, fiduciary duties, fraud etc. Incompetence and infighting can't be investigated by ASIC...it's somewhat normal and expected that company infighting will occur between partners.

If we stop and think for a second, ASIC does not issue club licences...Liquor & Gaming does. They are the one responsible for regulating those licensees. Not ASIC.

Not sure what he's smoking, but it's obviously a strong batch.
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ASIC regulates all companies limited by guarantee, including non-profits like HBG’s entities.
ASIC states explicitly that directors of non-profit companies have “the same legal duties and responsibilities as directors of other companies” — including s180, s181, s182, s183 and s191.
Liquor & Gaming NSW regulates club operations, but it does not replace or diminish ASIC’s jurisdiction over directors’ duties, misuse of position, conflicts of interest, or governance decisions causing corporate harm.


ASIC action against non-profit directors is common. The duties are not narrower — they are exactly the same under the Corporations Act.

ASIC has real, serious powers if it finds a breach of directors’ duties — and these powers apply equally to companies limited by guarantee (like HBG’s clubs) as they do to for-profit companies.

What ASIC can do if they find a breach​


Here’s the clean version:


✔ Disqualify HBG directors (ban from all boards)​


✔ Impose civil penalties​


✔ Order compensation​


✔ Enforce governance reforms​


✔ Appoint investigators/examiners​


✔ Refer to Liquor & Gaming NSW​


✔ Refer to NRL or Police where relevant​


And they do use these powers — especially with clubs and charities.
 
BAGNF05 said:
worlds not ending but in a rugby league sense, on a rugby league forum, our position as a club is unprecedented. So not something to be taken lightly in my humble opinion. Obviously others agree.
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Fair enough, but as others have said, wait and see what happens before jumping to the extreme negatives.
Winning games is what counts. The owners don’t matter. As long as the squad train hard and prepare well they’ll go alright this year despite all this stupid nonsense.
 
innsaneink said:
Did you listen to this pod?
This bloke reckons its good way...
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What ASIC can do if they find a breach​

✔ Disqualify HBG directors (ban from all boards)​

✔ Impose civil penalties​

✔ Order compensation​

✔ Enforce governance reforms​

✔ Appoint investigators/examiners​

✔ Refer to Liquor & Gaming NSW​

✔ Refer to NRL or Police where relevant​


And they do use these powers — especially with clubs and charities.
 
Wtiga said:
ASIC regulates all companies limited by guarantee, including non-profits like HBG’s entities.
ASIC states explicitly that directors of non-profit companies have “the same legal duties and responsibilities as directors of other companies” — including s180, s181, s182, s183 and s191.
Liquor & Gaming NSW regulates club operations, but it does not replace or diminish ASIC’s jurisdiction over directors’ duties, misuse of position, conflicts of interest, or governance decisions causing corporate harm.


ASIC action against non-profit directors is common. The duties are not narrower — they are exactly the same under the Corporations Act.

ASIC has real, serious powers if it finds a breach of directors’ duties — and these powers apply equally to companies limited by guarantee (like HBG’s clubs) as they do to for-profit companies.

What ASIC can do if they find a breach​


Here’s the clean version:


✔ Disqualify HBG directors (ban from all boards)​


✔ Impose civil penalties​


✔ Order compensation​


✔ Enforce governance reforms​


✔ Appoint investigators/examiners​


✔ Refer to Liquor & Gaming NSW​


✔ Refer to NRL or Police where relevant​


And they do use these powers — especially with clubs and charities.
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Ok so let me grant you a world where ASIC is the sole interventionist for all clubs in Australia.

For the sake of argument, you've copy and pasted some AI, but you haven't identified which regulation they have breached to justify ASIC intervention.

That's what I want to know.
 
weststigers said:
Ok so let me grant you a world where ASIC is the sole interventionist for all clubs in Australia.

For the sake of argument, you've copy and pasted some AI, but you haven't identified which regulation they have breached to justify ASIC intervention.

That's what I want to know.
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Thats what asics are there to look for
 
weststigers said:
Ok so let me grant you a world where ASIC is the sole interventionist for all clubs is Australia.

For the sake of argument, you've copy and pasted some AI, but you haven't identified which regulation they have breached to justify ASIC intervention.

That's what I want to know.
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Mate - they intervene when directors breach there duties.
That's it.
Just because its a club, a business, a for profit.
They are not sole interventionist - i never said that.
I sait it is another angle for fans to use.
Directors have duties under Australian Law.
They have to protect and enhance the value of the entity they represent.
ASIC will determine if directors have breached.
If they have they fine them and suspend them.
 
Wtiga said:

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What ASIC can do if they find a breach​

✔ Disqualify HBG directors (ban from all boards)​

✔ Impose civil penalties​

✔ Order compensation​

✔ Enforce governance reforms​

✔ Appoint investigators/examiners​

✔ Refer to Liquor & Gaming NSW​

✔ Refer to NRL or Police where relevant​


And they do use these powers — especially with clubs and charities.
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Nobody said they don't have power, but someone has to have done something wrong first. These powers are only used in extraordinary circumstances.
 
weststigers said:
Nobody said they don't have power, but someone has to have done something wrong first. These powers are only used in extraordinary circumstances.
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Yes - and the argument is - did the directors cause foreseeable harm to the Wests Tigers by sacking the entire board.
And no they are not in extraordinary circumstances.
I have sat on many boards and continue to do so.
Anyway mate - I'll leave it with you.
I would just appreciate you not persuading others not to do it when you do not know the law.
I have a letter that fans can use which is a 20 page letter with the breaches, which laws apply, what the facts are etc.
As i said you dont have to use it.
But its real.
 
Wtiga said:
Mate - they intervene when directors breach there duties.
That's it.
Just because its a club, a business, a for profit.
They are not sole interventionist - i never said that.
I sait it is another angle for fans to use.
Directors have duties under Australian Law.
They have to protect and enhance the value of the entity they represent.
ASIC will determine if directors have breached.
If they have they fine them and suspend them.
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It's something we can agree on. Directors have duties. We agree.

What duty are you accusing them of breaching?

Or are you saying you will just write a letter to ASIC requesting a general investigation and see if a breach is discovered?
 
weststigers said:
It's something we can agree on. Directors have duties. We agree.

What duty are you accusing them of breaching?

Or are you saying you will just write a letter to ASIC requesting a general investigation and see if a breach is discovered?
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no i have letter stating it relates to
  • s180
  • s181
  • s182
  • s183
The letter outlines it.
I am not going to paste the argument here for legal reasons.
I cannot share it on a public forum due to possible defamation.
I have seen HBG sue directors over the past 12 months.
My lawyer has said i can share it via email or DM.
That's it.
 
Wtiga said:
Yes - and the argument is - did the directors cause foreseeable harm to the Wests Tigers by sacking the entire board.
And no they are not in extraordinary circumstances.
I have sat on many boards and continue to do so.
Anyway mate - I'll leave it with you.
I would just appreciate you not persuading others not to do it when you do not know the law.
I have a letter that fans can use which is a 20 page letter with the breaches, which laws apply, what the facts are etc.
As i said you dont have to use it.
But its real.
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The answer is no.
Now in more interesting news, Who is playing 7 for us next year?
Doueihi was a good fill in at times but surely won’t be the primary?
 
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