HBG, Independent Directors Sacked

[Bus 2 Terrigal]

So you want to change the animal, but only by setting us back another 5-10 years from blowing up the board and damaging the club's brand, potentially beyond repair this time.

Jerome already had the clauses, now we'll need to add it for every player moving forward if this knee-jerk bull-shite from directors is not fixed once and for all.

Absolutely ridiculous way to spin this and shows the ineptitude in the way some people think

Mate, none of us know what’s going on.
At this point, it’s all pure speculation.
I’m just chucking in some ALTERNATE ideas/theories

 

[hammertime]

Your just playing with words.

Hypothetical - the new Wests Magpies continue to play home games at Campbelltown & Leichhardt. They have a token little Tiger on the sleeve. And nothing else changes beyond the emblem and the colours. Is that a “new identity entirely”? Sure it’s a hefty do over but it’s the same club simply running around with a fresh hue.

When Balmain changed the name of their club to Sydney back in the 90s and ditched Leichhardt - was that a new identity?

Change is always difficult - but people cope 🤷‍♂️

No one really cares about that rubbish, except it would take the club back commercially and reputationally, so it would be an utterly dumb move. After successive utterly dumb moves over the years.

... and we're trying to stamp out those idiotic moves that continue to plague the club.

 

[weststigers]

Given the NRL would love to reduce the Sydney teams, all they'll need is a reason.

Giving the license to the Brisbane Tigers, you would imagine, would be desirable for the NRL.

I really don't think that would happen. It would just be a mechanism to get rid of them.

I would imagine you'd get some interest from people to buy the club as it is and where it is.

 

[BlackWhiteGold]

I'm only deducing from the events that have transpired with the WA board coups, and the director in that time that remains on both (including WT) boards. There is an apparent constant figure and assumed ring-leader in all of these events, aided and abetted by allies already within the debenture holder group.

Andreacchio, Wayde, (both member-elected at WA) and Gilbert were ousted due to being chief supporters of the independent review. Romero was ousted for supporting and implementing the review findings.

Furthermore, there were 3 debenture holder vacancies with Gilbert giving up his after wiping his hands of WA. They have since been allocated to WSDRLFC board members. So basically, the debenture holders are back to the full 20, having been topped up by the 'Make Magpies Great Again' movement. It's not unlike the Don appointing his conservative chief justices of the supreme court. It will solidify the staunch Magpie support at WA for at least another couple of decades. They should drop the charade of Barnes in the name. It's just there so they can expand their gaming empire to Rozelle.

Look, I expect the WA group to be predominantly aligned with Wests Magpies as they are the club's roots and what the club was formed to advance. But the puppet master is a staunch Magpie, and he has reinforced the debenture holder group with staunch magpies who's skill set is essentially administering WSDRLC - an organisation that does virtually nothing apart from a BBQ at Lidcombe Oval game days, and is wholly funded by WA. These guys are the new blood and next potential directors at WA who will have a huge influence on the NRL team's strategy going forward. And their loyalty and vision is aligned to the bird, not a hybrid of them and a big cat.

The only chance the NRL club has now for and end to WA meddling, and future success, is for WA to be stripped of it's license.

Thanks for providing some context around this @FacePalm.

It is important we identify these people we are having to fight against to save our club 'Wests Tigers'.

Once again the long-time 4 board directors at HBG are:

-Dennis Burgess
-Stephen Montgomery
-Vince Tropiano
-Michael Liubinskis

And the recent 4 added debenture holders at HBG are:

-ex-Magpies Allan Fallah & Leo Epifania
-Magpies board member Bob Cairns
-APIA Leichhardt president Tony Raciti

It seems to have been a long-term plan to gain a majority faction on the HBG board with the suspensions of Wayde, Andrechhio, Gilbert & more recently Romero. And once the majority was gained, a plan potentially to regain control of the WT board.

And how Tropiano avoided suspension for his alleged misdemeanor when others received suspensions for their supposed breaches of by-laws, is anyone's guess.

And now as reported today Rick Wayde has received a payout from HBG so he doesn't present his case to court (and no doubt the payout includes staying quiet).

This just smells so awful but makes so much sense now with what has happened.

We just hope now that the NRL can unravel all of this and bring it all undone. Hopefully the likes of Dave Gilbert, Tony Andrechhio & Julie Romero would be happy to give their version of events to the NRL to fight for the cause of saving the Wests Tigers.

 

[Bigscreentv]

Will be interesting to see if the new board members are independent. If they are, then I guess there’s less of a problem.

Can’t see that happening though.

 

[liltiger]

Thank you for reaching out and for sharing your thoughts so openly. We genuinely appreciate your long standing support of the club.
The Club has been advised of a change in our Board structure by the Holman Barnes Group. As you can appreciate, the details of this change are still being worked through and will be finalised following the Club’s scheduled Board Meeting in December.
We completely understand your concerns and respect the position you’ve taken. At the same time, we are unable to offer refunds for change of mind cancellations, as per our membership terms and conditions.
What we can do in good faith - is opt you out of next seasons renewal to ensure no further renewals take place without you actioning this. Your feedback has also been collated and reported up to management as part of a wider review.
Thank you again for your support and for taking the time to share your feedback.
Ben
Wests Tigers Membership

Should reply I only want a membership that comes with a debunture

 

[Lestronge]

Your just playing with words.

Hypothetical - the new Wests Magpies continue to play home games at Campbelltown & Leichhardt. They have a token little Tiger on the sleeve. And nothing else changes beyond the emblem and the colours. Is that a “new identity entirely”? Sure it’s a hefty do over but it’s the same club simply running around with a fresh hue.

When Balmain changed the name of their club to Sydney back in the 90s and ditched Leichhardt - was that a new identity?

Change is always difficult - but people cope 🤷‍♂️

That’s once again not the club people support . How do you tell Jahrome luai that ? How do you tell Benji that ? How do you tell my 26 year old nephew that ? My 24 year old nephew , my 9 year old daughter … by I don’t like magpies dad!
Who does it service ? Some accent knob who lives in terrigal and openly moved away years ago . What about the kids who grow up wanting wear the same jersey Benji wore . The same one Bula wears now …. Anyways .
Have it . Have your magpies back . The club will be dead in 2 years when there’s a mass boycott . Good luck with it .

 

[hammertime]

Mate, none of us know what’s going on.
At this point, it’s all pure speculation.
I’m just chucking in some ALTERNATE ideas/theories

Sorry man, bad alternate ideas are what are killing this club. We need to be more deliberate in our direction and thinking. i.e. What is good for the club based on commericals, player retention and success on the field. We were getting that with Richo.

I don't think HBG has thought like that for a long while.

 

[TIGERS]

Or is diversity of opinion not allowed ?

Its not Shyt1ehead its called the 'Wests Tigers Forum`. HBG don't own this space and we're allowed to be as partisan for the club we love as much as we like. Like we are allowed to be pissed off here. Our club happens to have a Tiger on the logo. That's my Crest and I'm proud of it and good luck trying to change it. If you want to glaze on about victa lawnmower replica strips you can head down to the leagues club and pluck Denny's old grey saggy bass strings. Or stick around here if you want, but don't think for a second that Wests Tigers fans need to listen, like or respect anything that isnt unambiguously 1000% WESTS TIGERS. If you want to have a bet each way, you're no real fan.

 

[tigahhh]

Thanks for providing some context around this @FacePalm.

It is important we identify these people we are having to fight against to save our club 'Wests Tigers'.

Once again the long-time 4 board directors at HBG are:

-Dennis Burgess
-Stephen Montgomery
-Vince Tropiano
-Michael Liubinskis

And the recent 4 added debenture holders at HBG are:

-ex-Magpies Allan Fallah & Leo Epifania
-Magpies board member Bob Cairns
-APIA Leichhardt president Tony Raciti

It seems to have been a long-term plan to gain a majority faction on the HBG board with the suspensions of Wayde, Andrechhio, Gilbert & more recently Romero. And once the majority was gained, a plan potentially to regain control of the WT board.

And how Tropiano avoided suspension for his alleged misdemeanor when others received suspensions for their supposed breaches of by-laws, is anyone's guess.

And now as reported today Rick Wayde has received a payout from HBG so he doesn't present his case to court (and no doubt the payout includes staying quiet).

This just smells so awful but makes so much sense now with what has happened.

We just hope now that the NRL can unravel all of this and bring it all undone. Hopefully the likes of Dave Gilbert, Tony Andrechhio & Julie Romero would be happy to give their version of events to the NRL to fight for the cause of saving the Wests Tigers.

really scared for the future of our club mate. nrl is our only hope.

 

[hammertime]

I really don't think that would happen. It would just be a mechanism to get rid of them.

I would imagine you'd get some interest from people to buy the club as it is and where it is.

I think it's a very real possibility mate with HGB's antics. You'd almost port over a ready-made supporter group to Brisbane Tigers if they can keep the moniker alive with it (i.e. No need for Firehawks now), they'd also grow that market and reduce the competition in Sydney.

They now have good cause to do so with HBG bringing the game into disrepute. I'm sure PVL would love to see the back of them.

 

[diedpretty]

Is there any reason you believe that HBG could be justified in what has transpired? Serious question not being fecetious, just love to know your thoughts on it?

I don't think they are justified - legally they probably are in their rights. I don't believe any of this BS about too much orange in the jersey or that the magpies are staging a coup. I think it is just a powerplay to take back full control of what they own. I don't agree with it and believe an independent WT was the way to go.

 

[weststigers]

Great post Peno

Strip it all back and many on here simply support an emblem.
Clubs evolve - jerseys change, home grounds can be anywhere, players, coaches they come and go ... and all through that - it’s yay team 👍

But any suggestion that a change be made to that caricature of an animal which sits on the chest of the jersey - and suddenly we’re reaching for the nuclear codes

God people are funny 🤣

You must be kidding.

Other than the Gold Coast, which other club has changed their logo since their inception?

 

[Charred]

Great post Peno

Strip it all back and many on here simply support an emblem.
Clubs evolve - jerseys change, home grounds can be anywhere, players, coaches they come and go ... and all through that - it’s yay team 👍

But any suggestion that a change be made to that caricature of an animal which sits on the chest of the jersey - and suddenly we’re reaching for the nuclear codes

God people are funny 🤣

Ok so you’re totally on board with the home jersey being primarily orange then?

Additionally, if we were to remove the magpie from the sleeve of the jersey would you also not be reaching for nuclear codes?

God people are funny 🤣

 

[TIGERS]

Like if anyone here can't take abuse from fans of a footy club on its own forum, just go away or stop pretending it's an issue. This is a Wests Tigers fan forum, not a public library. Don't come on here without being 4000% in favor of whats best for my club in this dark hour and expect real and true fans to bite their tongues or moderate what they say in response.

 

[weststigers]

I think it's a very real possibility mate with HGB's antics. You'd almost port over a ready-made supporter group to Brisbane Tigers if they can keep the moniker alive with it (i.e. No need for Firehawks now), they'd also grow that market and reduce the competition in Sydney.

They now have good cause to do so with HBG bringing the game into disrepute. I'm sure PVL would love to see the back of them.

If the licence renewal is contingent on selling Wests Tigers to another party, the club carries on. No need to go to Brisbane.

Your scenario would only happen if HBG dug their heals in and were prepared to lose the value of the club in a sale. That would be a big risk to take.

In that event there would be a free licence floating around and even still, nothing to stop a group simply making a bid in the same geographic area.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

Nope.

Not this time.

Anyone defending these actions is in the crosshairs.

Fans are done with HBG - this will not be swept under the rug. Something has to give this time.

Go get 'em.

think it will come out the board wanted to put in place wests tigers in nsw cup
HBG crapped the bed and stopped it by removing board members
why else punt independent board members if that was not part of the wests tigers agenda for the future.

 

[Lestronge]

You must be kidding.

Other than the Gold Coast, which other club has changed their logo since their inception?

I love how all these people position themselves as good people , or bi-partisan , yet when the rubber hits the road nearly to a man they all reveal themselves . As a trusting person , it’s really one of life’s tragedies I’ve had to come to terms with . It constantly is a theme I watch continuously throughout my life , and a lesson that is completely counter to what we are all taught . Just sad really .

 

[BAGNF05]

Will be interesting to see if the new board members are independent. If they are, then I guess there’s less of a problem.

Can’t see that happening though.

Buckleys

 

[Bus 2 Terrigal]

That’s once again not the club people support . How do you tell Jahrome luai that ? How do you tell Benji that ? How do you tell my 26 year old nephew that ? My 24 year old nephew , my 9 year old daughter … by I don’t like magpies dad!
Who does it service ? Some accent knob who lives in terrigal and openly moved away years ago . What about the kids who grow up wanting wear the same jersey Benji wore . The same one Bula wears now …. Anyways .
Have it . Have your magpies back . The club will be dead in 2 years when there’s a mass boycott . Good luck with it .

You think here-and-now is the only time in history?
Things change. People cope and adapt.

Who does it serve? Clearly it serves the people who make it happen (although you do realise all this Wests Magpies back in the NRL is paper talk - being used to rile up super nervous nellies like yourself. Well they’ve certainly got your full attention)

Kids growing up wanting to wear the same jersey as Benji? Firstly the jersey changes every five minutes. And what about the kids who wanted to wear the same jersey as Larry Corowa or Tommy Raudonikis? What can I tell you, life throws up it’s little hurdles. Resilience is an important tool.

I might suggest you grab a seat, pour yourself a stiff drink and take some deep breaths. There’s no way the Magpies are coming back to the NRL - but geez, I gotta say, you eighth wonder fanatics are good at jumping at shadows 🤣