HBG, Independent Directors Sacked

[cochise]

I can't find any reported numbers on how clubs fund junior development.

I think that would make an interesting read.

I did find an article from 10 years ago that had St George, NQ & then the Tigers as the top 3 clubs investing in junior development- with the Dragons reported to spend $3.5m.

Obviously that was 10 years ago & times change.

Is the money that Wests/HBG put into the Wests Tigers ($1.8m) the only money they spend? That money is for the Wests Tigers club, yeah? How much do they invest into junior football in the area?

Pretty sure someone brought up their charter (HBG) the other day & in it is their resolve to develop junior football in the Western Suburbs region.

I also read that Souths Leagues funds junior development away from Souths RLFC- so not part of any money sent to the NRL club.

Are Wests doing the same?

Do we know those numbers at all?

$170k into Balmain and $230k into the Magpies.

Sponsor varies clubs as well.

 

[The Chad]

It's been ridiculous for decades now, and by all levels of management, that the inner west became the focus over the south west.
I don't see how that ever gets rectified.

If only there was a significant political figure associated with the club that could lean on the decision making....

 

[The Chad]

$170k into Balmain and $230k into the Magpies.

Sponsor varies clubs as well.

That's into all levels? Or SG Ball/Matts?

What about junior clubs & other clubs associated?

 

[wstigers11]

$170k into Balmain and $230k into the Magpies.

Sponsor varies clubs as well.

Sheesh

 

[The Chad]

Just found this from Daniel Paton after Wests Ashfield announced it's association with Wests Apia FC

“This year alone, we have contributed over $2m in support across 33 Intra-Clubs, reflecting our deep commitment to community engagement. All this, alongside our championing of rugby league through our partnerships with Wests Tigers, Wests Magpies and Balmain Tigers, which we remain steadfast in our commitment."

 

[cochise]

That's into all levels? Or SG Ball/Matts?

What about junior clubs & other clubs associated?

That's the grants to Balmain and the Magpies.

As I said they do sponsor some junior clubs in the inner west

 

[gallagher]

If only there was a significant political figure associated with the club that could lean on the decision making....

Unfortunately no one on the board lives in the south west so they're not gonna vote for it. How do we have such a large juniour and supporter base out there but not a single seat representation from the area.

 

[hammertime]

It was a witch hunt. No matter what your feelings are toward him & HBG- this always felt underhanded when it came out on this forum.

Sort of. I think making it a big issue is a problem but you'd also be hard to find another director of a significant professional organisation doing the same.

There is a level of professionalism when youre in those roles. Its the same with his hair mate.

Its just the way the world works... If you dont put effort into these areas, where else are you lazy?

People also wouldn't be attacking him if he wasnt dragging something we all love across the coals and refusing to take accountability.

 

[The Chad]

Sort of. I think making it a big issue is a problem but you'd also be hard to find another director of a significant professional organisation doing the same.

There is a level of professionalism when youre in those roles. Its the same with his hair mate.

Its just the way the world works... If you dont put effort into these areas, where else are you lazy?

People also wouldn't be attacking him if he wasnt dragging something we all love across the coals and refusing to take accountability.

I see your point- but at no stage was that brought up. "Dirty Dennis" & his love for smut was all that was mentioned.

I'm thinking if you knew the names of every board director available across all spectrums, you'd find as many 'issues' everywhere.

I doubt porn stars live off the funds of bottom feeders alone.

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

Wasnt it the independent board in 2025 that has made the call on the new stadium strategy?
In don't think funding from owners is an issue.i think it's been said by HBGout to pad out their cause.

They made the same call that has been in play for the last 20yrs. The owners were on the board regardless of independence for 12mths.

Funding is an issue. If we aren’t getting it from the avenues this club leadership has mandated we can’t then they need to prop it up via other means

 

[The Chad]

That's the grants to Balmain and the Magpies.

As I said they do sponsor some junior clubs in the inner west

Do we know anything about the HBG University Scholarship Program or the HBG Secondary Scholarship programs?

Someone brought up apartments given to juniors by the Roosters, so I imagine school scholarships count as well?


Not being funny- but compared to the funding available from the Bulldogs ownership/Roosters ownership- how much money do a group like HBG have available? Are they giving a similar % of their earnings to the club?

 

[The Chad]

That's the grants to Balmain and the Magpies.

As I said they do sponsor some junior clubs in the inner west

Appreciate that feedback Cochise- probably don't let you know that enough.

 

[gallagher]

They made the same call that has been in play for the last 20yrs. The owners were on the board regardless of independence for 12mths.

Funding is an issue. If we aren’t getting it from the avenues this club leadership has mandated we can’t then they need to prop it up via other means

Yeah, every board we've ever had just make the same calls as the previous boards !
Has the club changed in 26 years? Has anyone ever made a brave decision on anything?

 

[cochise]

Appreciate that feedback Cochise- probably don't let you know that enough.

I know we have different points of view, but I like to discuss openly and honestl

 

[Tucker]

Mods where are you... Someone's hacked Tuckers account 😅😅

Where do you think we will finish mate? Im thinking if it goes to plan, it'll be within the 6th-12th range. just depends on the luck in games with momentum and injuries.

I had us making the 8 last year until I saw them play against Newcastle….seriously though, last year was a weak comp and we let a good opportunity go. With a couple more experienced forwards and the young guys having spent another year together, I’d be pretty dissappointed not to see us finish 8 at worst.

 

[Tucker]

So your problem is I have an avenue for others to hear my opinion?

Sounds petty.

I think the way you are carrying on is petty and more designed to toot your own horn than anything else.

 

[Tucker]

So you’re happy with the shambolic torpedo put through the club in December ?
If the answer is no , which it should be , after years of attempts of pressuring the club into modernising, then the only right thing was to put pressure on the HBG .
Of which they’ve since backflipped, (all board members were offered thier role back) been investigated by thier own governing body in liquor and gaming as well as had external pressure put on the nrl license by the NRL and PVL.
If the team is successful and the governance stabilised , it won’t be because Darcy and Unite guys were wrong , it will because the HBG had to walk back thier original agenda , and even lose various people from the wests tigers board .
I personally have zero issue with the HBG CEO being added to the wests tigers board , especially as he was a CFO prior to being promoted to CEO. That’s a skillet that adds value to the wests tigers board.
Guys like Montgomery and Burgess … a skill set of being able to spend 30 years playing board room survivor , adds little value to the wests tigers.
None of those moves were going to happen if not for the unite guys , people deep diving burgess instagram , and Darcy Byrne . As well as the liquor and gaming and PVL.
They were planning on continuing thier HBG survivor bullshit , that has been going on for 2 years . Only thy were looking to bring it back to the wests tigers board .
It’s all good to sit on your pedestal and criticise those who are actually trying to influence change . Rather than jumping on a forum and arguing with half of it from your soapbox in North QLD.

You just couldn’t help yourself - had to go personal.
As I've pointed out for years now, you instigate a lot of the blowups on here.
My opinion is NEITHER the HBG nor these protestors will have anything to do with how the club performs this season.

 

[king_sirro]

You just couldn’t help yourself - had to go personal.
As I've pointed out for years now, you instigate a lot of the blowups on here.
My opinion is NEITHER the HBG nor these protestors will have anything to do with how the club performs this season.

Where did he get personal? Thats the classic line when someone realises they have no comeback, they fabricate something trying to deflect. Dont deflect Tuck, face your loss head on my brother, we all have them.

 

[Tucker]

Where did he get personal? Thats the classic line when someone realises they have no comeback, they fabricate something trying to deflect. Dont deflect Tuck, face your loss head on my brother, we all have them.

What loss? LOL….
My point far outweighs his.
You all think you are important but the club goes on regardless, and the team’s fortunes does not hinge on your little picnics in the park - despite your attempts to try and convince others that they made any difference at all.

 

[Craegus]

What loss? LOL….
My point far outweighs his.
You all think you are important but the club goes on regardless, and the team’s fortunes does not hinge on your little picnics in the park - despite your attempts to try and convince others that they made any difference at all.

No but disruptions from the top do cause instability as no-one knows what will come next, and people don't want to be associated with that, be it corporate, player, or any interested party who stays away from it.

And that is the issue, and has been the issue the whole time. Thus the "little picnics in the park" as you call it, is the beginning of trying to fix the issues. As the saying goes "the fish rots from the head", HBG, and more specifically the current debenture holder controlled board is the head that is causing a rot to start (again).