HBG, Independent Directors Sacked

[Rock Hopper Steve]

My question here... how do we know they were a well performing board? What exactly did this board do which we can had on heart say "performed well"??

Heresay from the club says that Richo wasnt consulting the board on many things and was making his own decisions - which suggests the board may have been largely ineffective.

And if Richo WAS doing things without consulting the board, and they knew he was signing docs he wasnt authorise to, does that make them a success? Or does that make them negligent in ignoring what was happening right under their noses?

And your second point.... I will wager less than 25% of the 25,000 WA members care about the Wests Tigers. The majority care that:

1. The beer is cold
2. Food is available
3. The pokies are working

Most members care that the Leagues Club is making money. Some of them are happy that Wests Cricket is being funded, or Wests Apia Soccer is being funded.

Most members of WA actually dont want the board gone. The club is profitable. They have plans to extend the club building on Liverpool Rd over the car park.

Its only a few unhappy WTs fans who want the Ashfield board gone.

If only 25% of W.A. are interested in Wests Tigers what's the point of even owning it, let someone else who is a 100% invested in it have it.

I'll say it one more time considering you won't listen the first time I don't give a rats about what goes on over at Ashfield, just want the best for the footy club.

Look you seem to want the existing board and most of the forum don't, let's leave at that, it's like a dog chasing its tail.

 

[cochise]

If only 25% of W.A. are interested in Wests Tigers what's the point of even owning it, let someone else who is a 100% invested in it have it.

I'll say it one more time considering you won't listen the first time I don't give a rats about what goes on over at Ashfield, just want the best for the footy club.

Look you seem to want the existing board and most of the forum don't, let's leave at that, it's like a dog chasing its tail.

Some people support HBG like it is a sporting team. Blind faith.

 

[Rock Hopper Steve]

Some people support HBG like it is a sporting team. Blind faith.

To tell you the truth mate they give me the shits, they just can't see the damage done to the club.

When is the next pod coming out, I hope it dives into all matters of recent happenings.

 

[cochise]

To tell you the truth mate they give me the shits, they just can't see the damage done to the club.

When is the next pod coming out, I hope it dives into all matters of recent happenings.

Recording on Friday, will have Shaun hopefully next week.

 

[mtd#2]

Honestly? There is nothing wrong with the current board members at HBG that I can see makes cause for anyone to demand they resign.

Lets ignore the "Dennis" story for a moment:

Francesco Primerano - Lawyer and Businessman
Stephen Montgomery - Lawyer and Barrister
Vince Tropiana - ex Ford Motor Company (I know plenty from the industry who know and worked with Vince and he apparently was well respected in the motor industry)
Mick Liubinskas - Ex Magpies enforcer, Businessman (IT industry). Havent met a more honest and direct bloke as Mick. Have known Mick about 20 years.
Rick Yabsley - Chartered Accountant. Honest hard working guy from what I have been told about him
Peter Di Michiel - Wests Magpies club doctor. Medic and General Practictioner

Now, lets go back to Denis. Yes, I read the nonsense about looking at young ladies on Instagram. I have known Dennis some 20 years or so. He is a music guy and that is who he is. Does he like the ladies? Yeah he does. He is off that generation of old rockers who arent scared to tell a pretty girl she is pretty (and apparently that offends some people). And he has always been a passionate Magpies supporter. Yes, in his perfect world, I think he would like to see the Maggies back in the NRL, but he also knows that that is also pipe dream.

I dont see any of these blokes being poor for the leagues club. Would it be good to see a female somewhere on the board? Yeah, of course. But I also dont wanna see a woman appointed just becuase she is a she for DEI reasons.

I have no issue supporting these guys to get the leagues club functioning. Certainly I know at least one of them was very proactive in trying to stop the culture of bullying at the leagues club... which was very much covered up and that cover up was facilitated by TA and RW.

They decided to oust the independent directors. Thats enough wrong doing in my book to say see ya!

 

[NT_Tiger]

Some people support HBG like it is a sporting team. Blind faith.

That really surprises me.
I cant understand why any Wests Tigers supporter would also choose to support HBG given their history, unless they are good mates with board members or are HBG members themselves.
Are their pokies or meat tray raffles extra good?

 

[hank37w]

Thus, WTs, Penrith and Souths for example get an elevated top up, as the "nursery areas" are bigger.

The Dogs don't have such a geographical reach and not as big a junior nursery.

At least, that's how I seemed to understand things. Maybe someone can either confirm this or explain where my reasoning from the NRL pages is not correct

The way the HBG Board have been acting they may very well lose the Wests Tigers Licence and V'Landys could grant the licence to an entity outside of Sydney.

This could solve the problem of having too many NRL sides in Sydney and allow V'Landys to continue his expansion plans interstate, or into New Zealand.

This would then free up the junior areas currently held by the Wests Tigers for V'Landys to divided up between The Parra-sites and the Dogs giving the Dogs that increased geographic reach that they currently do not have.

Thanks Holman Barnes Group you need to be acknowledged for your service and dedication to the expansion of the game of Rugby League.

 

[Go_You_Good_Things]

So you dont think HBG bailing out the club to the tune of several million dollars when Balmain went into default has done the same for the Wests Tigers?

Sure HBG "only" has property assets to the value of $62m where Easts have property assets at more than twice that at $160m... but given Easts also has a membership base of 49,000 members to Ashfield (combined) 26,000 members, thats still not a bad portfolio figure.

Sharkies as a comparison have around $40m in property assets with similar members base to Ashfield.

Under HBG stewardship we have also been able to move into a new CoE.

Just trying to see where that compass sits?

The silence is deafening, cdinoz . . . you obviously are close to the workings at HBG.
I would like to think your researched and detailed efforts would be appreciated by all here.
But you sing an unpopular song, my friend.

 

[cdinoz007]

Goes without saying the rich clubs don’t need the hand outs. They aren’t constant contenders because of their awful junior retention.

They were up on literally all metrics for the club. And secured funding for both grounds which looked almost impossible at one point. Again, this didn’t all happen by accident. If they weren’t being effective PVL wouldn’t of reinstated them himself.

We still dont know if the board were effective or not. The metrics could simply have been as a result of the actions of Richo and NOT the board. That was my point. There have been comments made that Richo wasnt consulting the board over the decisions he was making. HE was making. Not "consulting with the board" and then making a decision.

Again and this is only hearsay, but Richo apparently saw himself as a one man band. Now, no corporate organisation in the land will allow a senior exec to go off and make decisions without approvals, regardless of how succesfull those decisions turn out to be. CEO's cannot be left

PVL didnt reinstate them himself becuase of any perceived metrics. He forced the club to reinstate the board becuase HE felt due process had not been followed and breached NRL guidelines. Nothing to do with their abilities.