HBG takeover, Independent Directors Sacked

[weststigers]

Why would you ask me or anyone else to clarify what Paton stated, he’s the one stating it, nobody else.
You choose to believe he’s telling lies, good on you, but doesn’t mean anyone else has to conform to your views.
What are you going to do if PVL finds that there was an acceptable reason for the board members dismissals ?

The question is how are they independent if they were chosen by HBG and can be removed by HBG? There's nothing independent about it. You can't vote out the debenture holders...that's the source of the problem entirely.

 

[weststigers]

If Richo walks with or without N.R.L help were stuffed imo. He's made mistakes but in his around 2 years he started turning the place around, if he leaves, being one of the most experienced operators in the game, who would want to takeover, any operator we get will just be a slave to HBG and what they want, no one of any decent standing would do that.

No one decent would want to work under the present conditions and with our track record.

This will not only affect our ability to recruit decent management, it will absolutely affect our ability to sign players...we're back where we started prior to the positive changes over the last 18 months.

 

[Tucker]

Yep exactly....but some people are that spiteful if they cant have what they want then others not having what others want make them feel better.
Misery merchants the lot of em

Im sure many old magpies like myself are embarrased and ashamed of whats happening.
I feel like ive been conned, swindled and ripped off by the club I used to support

My old man and his mates at Ashy pub were right...WA didnt give a shit about the football club in the 70s and they dont now

As the viewpoint of an outsider, I remember saying about a decade ago that the owners don’t care about winning football games.
They enjoy the prestige of owning a club and the traffic that funnels into their hospitality network.
Some of them hold fantasies of a Magpie resurgence but it’s not their primary driver I suspect.
It must still be a positive strategic decision otherwise a smart operator would have sold the joint ages ago.

 

[Flash089]

That’s because I’m a Wests Tigers fan, you braindead dinosaur. Something you wouldn’t understand.

I’m a septuagénaire with a diagnosed borderline personnalité disorder. I love the WestsTigers. It is a strong brand for any kind of sporting club (except maybe a hunting club) Not even the boneheads at the NRL would let the Tiger, an apex predator, disappear from the NRL. The colours of the most prévalent Tiger in the wild are Orange, Black & White. There is a mutant Tiger which is Black and White and Grey. Only a handfull exist because they have inbred to imminent extinction. Most people call our team the Tigers because in linguistiques the sts-T combo is difficult for the tongue used to pronounce English words. We can train the tongue but we can’t call a Tiger Black and White without being forced onto the Short Bus.

 

[Jimmy]

It’s always the same few that fill up topics with garbage personal attacks and nonsense. I don’t want to have to filter through 20 pages of crap. Please DM each other smh

 

[FacePalm]

Too much hypotheticals of what might happen.

Referring to HBG simply as dysfunctional allows the suspected orchestrator of all this, to hide behind the veil of the HBG board, and entire group of debenture holders.

You guys with a voice need to apply pressure on the puppet master rather than allow them to hide behind the HBG board and DHs. While many directors have come and been turfed, they’re the constant on both HBG and WT boards for at least the last decade.

To kill the beast, you need to cut off the head.

 

[tigertragic]

If the NRL and L&G do nothing, then HBG will continue to bring destabilisation and dysfunction to Wests Tigers, as that has been the constant under their administration. Wests Tigers will be destined to continued failure.

 

[Bigscreentv]

Last time Anthony blue man was asked in an article , he said he wanted to bring back a balmain tigers... still a better option

Yeah, I know. My comment was tongue in cheek.

Tigers need a new owner that's independent of the history.

 

[UnderTheBus]

As the viewpoint of an outsider, I remember saying about a decade ago that the owners don’t care about winning football games.
They enjoy the prestige of owning a club and the traffic that funnels into their hospitality network.
Some of them hold fantasies of a Magpie resurgence but it’s not their primary driver I suspect.
It must still be a positive strategic decision otherwise a smart operator would have sold the joint ages ago.

It's entirely a status thing for these board members and debenture holders and nothing else - HBG make plenty of money from pokies revenue and contribute bugger all to Wests Tigers compared to what other Sydney clubs get paid from their Leagues clubs (this is a good thing for WT) so there is no need to sell off the club. They just like stirring the pot for their own agendas and networking (as you pointed out).

There would be no need for any of us to want new owners if HBG had a proper democracy where idiots like Dennis Burgess could be voted out and held accountable. Every single one of us would be WA members and turn up to vote in the best interest of the Leagues club which would then flow to the football club.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

My thoughts are the NRL are pleased with WTs improved off field and on field performance under Richardson and the old board. What has happened is bad for the NRL brand considering it has been self inflicted. In an age where professionalism is demanded, especially when $12m is handed out annually by the NRL to clubs, we await the response from the NRL because this is not about WTs, but a slap down of the NRL's plans for expansion in the SW.. We have the keys to one of the largest growth areas in Sydney, and it is about time we work together to fully realise it's potential.

 

[Demps]

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Not smart having it as tigers v Magpies. It's not.

 

[supercoach]

A lot of people see private ownership as our road to salvation. History tells me there are far more failures than successes of clubs who went down this path.

I think the best result would be a total overhaul of the current system of governance and replaced by a board voted in by financial members with strong representation from all stakeholders. I can understand the HB wanting a big say in the decision making process as they are putting up a large chunk of the cash to run the joint. In saying that they should be accountable and replaceable when they are not effective.

Sadly I can’t see the board giving up there current set up without the NRL holding a gun to their heads

 

[Bus 2 Terrigal]

In fairness, I don't think I was the only one that was under the impression the brand was unchangeable as a pillar of the merger.

This is new information for me, and with rumblings around HBG board members crowing about bringing back the Magpies and too much orange on the jersey, it starts to fit into the realms of possibility. The fire's not there yet, but plenty of smoke to worry about for now.

I wouldn’t be worrying over trivial matters such as branding.

But let’s say the conspiracy theory’s are true and we trotted out with a new feathery emblem and minimal orange - you’d still follow yeah ?

After all it’d just be the latest incarnation of our great club.
And Balmain still own 10% 🤷‍♂️

 

[UnderTheBus]

Do any successful clubs run a debenture system?

Maybe the odd bowling club where the biggest issue is stocking the chocolate claw machine. St George removed theirs in 1981.

 

[Bus 2 Terrigal]

Coming from one of the people last year who was saying the majority of us were paranoid cause HBG were always intending to implement the review findings in full. Yet here we are 12 months later. 🤣

I never said any of that.
It sounds way too dry a topic for me to ever waste time on.

Feel free to find a direct quote though.
My memory ain’t what it used to be 🤷‍♂️

 

[Big Red]

Will be a PR disaster for them and effect them from community to government level.

I think they are so deluded they think this will blow over after the initial media & social media firestorm.

I think it’s more than that. I think HBG couldn’t care less about WT fans. They treat their own members with total contempt. Their business model is to provide cheap food, cheap alcohol and cultivate gambling addiction. It’s morally corrupt.

 

[batboy]

I wouldn’t be worrying over trivial matters such as branding.

But let’s say the conspiracy theory’s are true and we trotted out with a new feathery emblem and minimal orange - you’d still follow yeah ?

After all it’d just be the latest incarnation of our great club.
And Balmain still own 10% 🤷‍♂️

Bringing back the Magpies would be one hell of a reality check for a few disillusioned fans I tell you!!

They’d lose 80% of their membership, and probably halve game day attendances.

I can appreciate you blokes love your club, but seriously - how many times did it have to die before you realised it’s dead?

The idiot running this shit show thinks he’s going to burst back onto the scene and be the Collingwood Magpies of Campbelltown
- if it wasn’t for the Wests Tigers, the clown wouldn’t even know the way to Campbelltown (that’s how much he cares about the southwest)

I know plenty of former Magpie fans who hate what’s happening to Wests Tigers under these idiots more than they want to return to the Misery of the Black N Whites.

Wests Tigers gave you blokes (I’m mathing all of you) something a lifetime of being a Magpies fan never could, and it’s like you all resent them for it.

 

[Lestronge]

A lot of people see private ownership as our road to salvation. History tells me there are far more failures than successes of clubs who went down this path.

I think the best result would be a total overhaul of the current system of governance and replaced by a board voted in by financial members with strong representation from all stakeholders. I can understand the HB wanting a big say in the decision making process as they are putting up a large chunk of the cash to run the joint. In saying that they should be accountable and replaceable when they are not effective.

Sadly I can’t see the board giving up there current set up without the NRL holding a gun to their heads

The issue is the debenture system . If you removed that for something far more democratic , you wouldn’t get the Dennis Burgess’ of the world who think they own the club . They’d be far more concerned with appeasing whoever keeps them in thier seat . Like every other democratically elected position .

 

[diedpretty]

It was in the major newspapers, google it.

Oh well it had to be true then.