Heartland needs love
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cqtiger
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Pretty much same-o, same-o from the usual suspects on here.
No new arguments at all.
What interests me is how the NSW govt's stadia strategy will eventually play out. The govt tried getting consensus from clubs with the Wests Tigers agreeing to play the majority of their games out of the new ANZ. The Tigers also agreed on playing a few games at the new Parramatta stadium due to be completed in 2019.
I believe the NSW govt is trying to replicate the AFL in Melbourne where all Melbourne based clubs play ALL games out of the larger stadiums, no home suburban fields are used anymore.
I'd really like to see how the Sydney stadia plan works out, especially with Manly agreeing to play out of the new Alliance stadium. Manly fans don't travel well.
So if anyone has new info on the Sydney stadia plan I'd be grateful in it being shared.
No new arguments at all.
What interests me is how the NSW govt's stadia strategy will eventually play out. The govt tried getting consensus from clubs with the Wests Tigers agreeing to play the majority of their games out of the new ANZ. The Tigers also agreed on playing a few games at the new Parramatta stadium due to be completed in 2019.
I believe the NSW govt is trying to replicate the AFL in Melbourne where all Melbourne based clubs play ALL games out of the larger stadiums, no home suburban fields are used anymore.
I'd really like to see how the Sydney stadia plan works out, especially with Manly agreeing to play out of the new Alliance stadium. Manly fans don't travel well.
So if anyone has new info on the Sydney stadia plan I'd be grateful in it being shared.
supercoach
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The NRL and its broadcasting partners have now made the game basically a TV game and the old days when you got maybe two or at very best three games a week on tele, you now can get every game live on your massive TV in stereo sound with your beer at Dan Murphy prices and your snacks at Aldi prices. People are time poor and wallet poor, so I say it really doesn't matter where you play your going to struggle to attract big crowds these days. A winning team will help and a ground we could call home, but as I said for the vast majority they are more than happy to get their NRL fix from the lounge
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Not whinging. Just stating how I found Leichhardt since I started going there when it ran the opposite to what it is today. So I think that I am entitled to my opinion.
Have you been to any other grounds? Campbelltown, Brookvale, the big stadiums? Which one, in your opinion is the best?
PS. I have been a Wests Magpies and now Weststigers supporter since 1958\. I think that I qualify as a supporter.
innsaneink
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Interesting CQ and news to me…. Have you got links for these developments?
When did we decide to play at Parra... Won't leave much for CSS & LO with the ANZ deal still in operation.
I also thought Brookie was getting an upgrade
jirskyr
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That's great but Wests Campbo don't contribute to the merger any more.
If I can also quote myself from earlier in the year, about the incorrect concept that the Macarthur has the huge population we need. hammertime already noted, there is a huge difference between population and money, but there are exploding population centres all over Sydney:
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earl
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This is spot on. When it comes to playing wherever the main thing that matters is how many people turn up and how profitable it is.
It shouldn't have anything to do with the inner west vs campbelltown and people on both sides shouldn't be whinging and whining.
Balmainbred
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Easy fix jam your games at Cambodia go back to Lidcombe
innsaneink
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Thnx for your input
GNR4LIFE
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Been scrolling through some old threads today and found this
http://weststigersforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=20577
We've really been blessed with some great communicators running our club in the past.
http://weststigersforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=20577
We've really been blessed with some great communicators running our club in the past.
I am pretty sure I heard somewhere that Wests Campbelltown contribute ZERO $$ to the running and management of Wests Tigers as an NRL entity.
If true, and I stand to be corrected, isn't that a bit of a contradiction to the OP here?
If playing more games at CSS was an indicator of commitment to the area by WT NRL club, wouldn't some clear and accountable financial support from the club just over the fence also be an indicator?
Can somebody enlighten me?
And, by the way, apart from ridiculously inadequate grandstand comfort seating for WT members and fans, I seriously think the ground and the surface at CSS are excellent.
If true, and I stand to be corrected, isn't that a bit of a contradiction to the OP here?
If playing more games at CSS was an indicator of commitment to the area by WT NRL club, wouldn't some clear and accountable financial support from the club just over the fence also be an indicator?
Can somebody enlighten me?
And, by the way, apart from ridiculously inadequate grandstand comfort seating for WT members and fans, I seriously think the ground and the surface at CSS are excellent.
Cambo club pulled it's support a few years back.
Wests tigers is 100% Ashfield owned(they payed back Balmains loan to the NRL) now, with two board seats donated to Balmain .
I think there is also an agreement to allow Balmain to buy back its original interest if its ever in a position to do so.
Wests tigers is 100% Ashfield owned(they payed back Balmains loan to the NRL) now, with two board seats donated to Balmain .
I think there is also an agreement to allow Balmain to buy back its original interest if its ever in a position to do so.
innsaneink
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29 pages of LO v CSS???
Punishing!
cqtiger
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Ink, this was from last year, hence why I am asking for any updates.
https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=6&ved=0ahUKEwi90cn70ODWAhXGXLwKHRH3CUYQFggYMAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Famp.smh.com.au%2Frugby-league%2Fleague-news%2Fnrl-agrees-to-put-forward-clubs-plan-for-stadia-to-nsw-government-20160407-go0pas.html&usg=AOvVaw10Db0Ffvo52h5GvlVeI8re
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I have been going to games for 67 years Col, and yes, Leichhardt was east west, used to sit 5 metres from the corner post around where the big screen is now. Didn't like that possie too much, but my uncle used to take me and you sat where he said, or you didn't go.
Always enjoyed Leichhardt and it holds great memories of some classic wins and unfortunately some disastrous losses. Also enjoyed Brookvale, Kogarah, Pratten Park, Lidcombe and the old Sydney sports ground.
Never enjoyed going to Redfern, Cumberland, Henson Park or North Sydney Oval (could never come to grips with the unusual angle compared to the spectators) or Campbelltown.
ANZ at this stage is hopeless imo and Alliance is very ordinary - with Parramatta (now pulled down ) the best of the newer stadiums.
Just my opinion - to each his own I guess - but will always love LO.
Can somewhat understand the frustration of Campbelltown based fans. I only say somewhat as despite being a former Balmain fan I've never lived in the localities that either Balmain or Wests Tigers reside. I've always had to travel to follow my team, except for when they came to Penrith.
Overall it's a frustrating set of circumstances. Ideally we'd play 6/6 at LO and CSS but it must be cost prohibitive to do so as if we were making money doing that we'd never have gone away from that model. The added complexity now is that an inner west leagues club bankrolls the JV, is located around the corner from LO and represents the original Magpies from their Ashfield/Lidcombe days.
I could cop Wests playing out of an upgraded CSS, or at a purpose built stadium at Liverpool where it is a little more central to Sydney with two games at LO reserved for Easts and Souths.
Anything that gets us away from bloody ANZ. It's a good atmosphere when it's full, but other than that it is a tripe ground with good facilities.
Overall it's a frustrating set of circumstances. Ideally we'd play 6/6 at LO and CSS but it must be cost prohibitive to do so as if we were making money doing that we'd never have gone away from that model. The added complexity now is that an inner west leagues club bankrolls the JV, is located around the corner from LO and represents the original Magpies from their Ashfield/Lidcombe days.
I could cop Wests playing out of an upgraded CSS, or at a purpose built stadium at Liverpool where it is a little more central to Sydney with two games at LO reserved for Easts and Souths.
Anything that gets us away from bloody ANZ. It's a good atmosphere when it's full, but other than that it is a tripe ground with good facilities.
Tiger_Watto
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I'm not sure if the clubs needs to be more transparent on this subject [ie: how many companies advise their consumers there 20 year vision?], but I feel for the people of that region waiting waiting waiting all the time for 'a team'. I do however feel that over the past 4 years, its becoming more evident the idea of 'moving to campbelltown' fulltime isnt going to happen.
What looks clear to me is the Wests Tigers want the region for its Junior Pathways and that is about it. We will do a few games, do the odd community engagement, visit the schools etc but thats what its looks to be becoming. A captured region to secure junior talent.
If this is the case, maybe they should put these people out of their misery and be more honest? Sadly, that could cause short term damage to our brand I dont feel the club is prepared to take that hit at the moment. In the meantime, we will still continue to see fluff pieces from the club telling them we are 'your team'.
Yeah it looks as though the club wants it both ways. They want to retain the junior pathways but also be seen as a greater Sydney team.
What looks clear to me is the Wests Tigers want the region for its Junior Pathways and that is about it. We will do a few games, do the odd community engagement, visit the schools etc but thats what its looks to be becoming. A captured region to secure junior talent.
If this is the case, maybe they should put these people out of their misery and be more honest? Sadly, that could cause short term damage to our brand I dont feel the club is prepared to take that hit at the moment. In the meantime, we will still continue to see fluff pieces from the club telling them we are 'your team'.
Yeah it looks as though the club wants it both ways. They want to retain the junior pathways but also be seen as a greater Sydney team.
cqtiger
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I think you can forget about suburban grounds going forward.
The NSW govt have played their hand with their stadia strategy so I don't think that there will be much money available for suburban ground upgrades.
The NRL always seem to follow the AFL albeit a few years later so look at their home ground strategy.
What's the AFLs worst ground?
They give all their clubs members and sponsors much better facilities than most NRL clubs.
As much as I love Leichardt Oval, it is an awful place to access and park. The facilities are archaic. Compare Sydney's LO, Campbo, Brookvale, Kogarah, Shark Park to all the one town teams home grounds and you have a good idea why the NSW govt are doing what their doing.
Brisbane, GC, Canberra, Newcastle, Storm and soon to be built Townsville stadia are far superior to any suburban Sydney ground. That's why I think that Wests Tigers will play out of the new and upgraded stadiums at ANZ and maybe Parra. Going to Leichardt and Campbelltown will be reduced each year and become token.
South Sydney have abandoned Redfern for ANZ for that very reason.
It is sad but most members and sponsors do demand more for their money.
The NSW govt have played their hand with their stadia strategy so I don't think that there will be much money available for suburban ground upgrades.
The NRL always seem to follow the AFL albeit a few years later so look at their home ground strategy.
What's the AFLs worst ground?
They give all their clubs members and sponsors much better facilities than most NRL clubs.
As much as I love Leichardt Oval, it is an awful place to access and park. The facilities are archaic. Compare Sydney's LO, Campbo, Brookvale, Kogarah, Shark Park to all the one town teams home grounds and you have a good idea why the NSW govt are doing what their doing.
Brisbane, GC, Canberra, Newcastle, Storm and soon to be built Townsville stadia are far superior to any suburban Sydney ground. That's why I think that Wests Tigers will play out of the new and upgraded stadiums at ANZ and maybe Parra. Going to Leichardt and Campbelltown will be reduced each year and become token.
South Sydney have abandoned Redfern for ANZ for that very reason.
It is sad but most members and sponsors do demand more for their money.
