Here's Your Chance Campbelltown

[2041]

FFS, we can't have it both ways… If you want more games played at CSS and LO, you'll have to pay a premium. Like many others have said, $30 to watch 160 mins of Rugby League over four hours is better than paying $20 to watch the latest 80 minute Hollywood offering which these days seems to be a remake, a comic book adaptation or a banal piece of crap.

$30 is too much. I don't buy your movie ticket comparison. I think that movie tickets cost too much as well. I don't think you can say, 'they inflate their prices so we should do the same'.

What is the point of a club if the supporters of that club don't even feel like they can afford to come to games? The club gouges its supporters with new jerseys every 3 months, steep ticket prices, ridiculously expensive soggy pies, average big screens and sponsors promotions that they pass as halftime 'entertainment'. And we cop it because we love the club, but it isn't a good deal and the fans deserve better.

The club justifies its prices because it is a 'premium product', but it isn't worth it if the stadium is half full. The ticket pricing is also a poor financial decision because it ignores the long term consequences of inflated prices. If prices are too high then you cut out a generation of fans, and that generation doesn't bring their kids to the game and none of them then buy jerseys and merchandise. So, it is short term thinking which has got the club in the position to get a crowd of only 13k despite everything being in place for a cracker game. Does anyone dispute the fact that the price of a ticket prevented some (and probably many) from coming to the game? And what happens when we don't have benji Marshall anymore? Rugby League is digging itself a massive hole by treating its fans so poorly.

Wests tigers should cut the price of GA tickets and they should offer free or dirt cheap tickets to u/16 kids and they should do something to make food a viable option at matches. When they start getting too many people coming to games then it is fair enough to start thinking about raising the price of a ticket. But, the prices they are charging are prohibitive and this is working against the interests of rugby league. A rugby league club is a business, but its business is based on building its fan base and winning premierships. We are not Warner Bros and we are not even Souths (who are privately owned), so why should the club treat the fans so poorly?

I think all this crap about community outreach and improving marketing is peripheral to the key issue. Drop the prices and watch the crowds improve, it is a simple formula.

Look, I'm sorry, but if $30 is more than the Tigers are worth to you then I don't need you as a fan. You're not going to be there when they're crap again, you're not going to show up when it's cold or raining or the oppo are too bad or too good. $30, with all respect to people who are really struggling, is not that much money.

On the other points:
New jerseys: don't buy them if you don't want them. I've got one Tigers jersey and I'm not short of cash. I don't like the ones they've used for the past season and a half, so I haven't bought one. Am I 'less of a fan' because of that? No.
Ridiculously expensive soggy pies: take a sandwich for goodness sake. Or eat before the game. Can't you go 90 minutes without eating? Sunday was a 3pm kick off - what meal time did that cover?
Average big screens: cry me a river. If I wanted to watch the game on TV I'd stay at home.
Sponsors promotions that they pass as halftime 'entertainment': sorry, I care about this why? What do you expect for your $30? The best rugby league players in the world plus 12 minutes of U2 during oranges? I generally spend half time whingeing to my mates about how crap we've been first dig anyway, I don't care what's going on on the pitch.

 

[Alf_Duguid]

Sorry 2041 but I don't think it is your right to judge who is or isnt a fan. Poor form

Certainly the point made yesterday by Brad Walter in the Herald is a valid one in relation to Origin.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/the-threeheaded-monster-that-is-swallowing-the-nrl-20120528-1zeav.html

 

[Gary_Bakerloo]

Certainly the point made yesterday by Brad Walter in the Herald is a valid one in relation to Origin.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/the-threeheaded-monster-that-is-swallowing-the-nrl-20120528-1zeav.html

I think that article just about puts the nail in the coffin of this thread. We can't deny our club can be susceptible to general factors impacting the entire NRL and it looks like this has occurred over the weekend. From my own experience, I will always watch the live Friday night game, but I didn't watch it on Friday. Not sure why, it may have been because it looked an ordinary game especially in relation to Wednesday night, but I just could not be bothered on Friday evening.

The crowd was low by Wests Tigers standards, but we still had the biggest crowd of all the Sydney games against a team with no away fans. It actually reinforces the claims of Campbelltown to retain an NRL presence and in answering the ludicrous title of the thread, Campbelltown has taken its "chance".

 

[2041]

Sorry 2041 but I don't think it is your right to judge who is or isnt a fan. Poor form

Certainly the point made yesterday by Brad Walter in the Herald is a valid one in relation to Origin.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/the-threeheaded-monster-that-is-swallowing-the-nrl-20120528-1zeav.html

I'm not judging who is or isn't a fan. If you think you're a fan watching on TV and complaining about it costing $30 to get in to the game, more power to you (and, again, I make exception for people who are really doing it tough - in my socialist paradise that wouldn't happen). My point is that you don't build a loyal fan base that will support the club through thick and thin by discounting the hell out of everything for the benefit of punters who claim they don't turn up because the queue for chips is a bit long.

 

[Ed_Reschs]

Maybe $30 entry and free beer would work. It worked at Micki's and Macarthur Royal back in the 90's $30 all you could drink, and the joint was packed.

 

[black_and_white_tige]

Maybe $30 entry and free beer would work. It worked at Micki's and Macarthur Royal back in the 90's $30 all you could drink, and the joint was packed.

I'm starting to see a bit of a pattern forming here Ed,
$30 entry and a free beer….
Waiting for the supporters bus at the bar of the Old Balmain Leagues Club.

Might be time for a name change buddy.

See you there at 10...... :stuck_out_tongue:

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Maybe $30 entry and free beer would work. It worked at Micki's and Macarthur Royal back in the 90's $30 all you could drink, and the joint was packed.

I'm starting to see a bit of a pattern forming here Ed,
$30 entry and a free beer….
Waiting for the supporters bus at the bar of the Old Balmain Leagues Club.

Might be time for a name change buddy.

See you there at 10...... :stuck_out_tongue:

A name change? His surname seems very appropriate :slight_smile:

 

[cochise]

FFS, we can't have it both ways… If you want more games played at CSS and LO, you'll have to pay a premium. Like many others have said, $30 to watch 160 mins of Rugby League over four hours is better than paying $20 to watch the latest 80 minute Hollywood offering which these days seems to be a remake, a comic book adaptation or a banal piece of crap.

$30 is too much. I don't buy your movie ticket comparison. I think that movie tickets cost too much as well. I don't think you can say, 'they inflate their prices so we should do the same'.

What is the point of a club if the supporters of that club don't even feel like they can afford to come to games? The club gouges its supporters with new jerseys every 3 months, steep ticket prices, ridiculously expensive soggy pies, average big screens and sponsors promotions that they pass as halftime 'entertainment'. And we cop it because we love the club, but it isn't a good deal and the fans deserve better.

The club justifies its prices because it is a 'premium product', but it isn't worth it if the stadium is half full. The ticket pricing is also a poor financial decision because it ignores the long term consequences of inflated prices. If prices are too high then you cut out a generation of fans, and that generation doesn't bring their kids to the game and none of them then buy jerseys and merchandise. So, it is short term thinking which has got the club in the position to get a crowd of only 13k despite everything being in place for a cracker game. Does anyone dispute the fact that the price of a ticket prevented some (and probably many) from coming to the game? And what happens when we don't have benji Marshall anymore? Rugby League is digging itself a massive hole by treating its fans so poorly.

Wests tigers should cut the price of GA tickets and they should offer free or dirt cheap tickets to u/16 kids and they should do something to make food a viable option at matches. When they start getting too many people coming to games then it is fair enough to start thinking about raising the price of a ticket. But, the prices they are charging are prohibitive and this is working against the interests of rugby league. A rugby league club is a business, but its business is based on building its fan base and winning premierships. We are not Warner Bros and we are not even Souths (who are privately owned), so why should the club treat the fans so poorly?

I think all this crap about community outreach and improving marketing is peripheral to the key issue. Drop the prices and watch the crowds improve, it is a simple formula.

Look, I'm sorry, but if $30 is more than the Tigers are worth to you then I don't need you as a fan. You're not going to be there when they're crap again, you're not going to show up when it's cold or raining or the oppo are too bad or too good. $30, with all respect to people who are really struggling, is not that much money.

On the other points:
New jerseys: don't buy them if you don't want them. I've got one Tigers jersey and I'm not short of cash. I don't like the ones they've used for the past season and a half, so I haven't bought one. Am I 'less of a fan' because of that? No.
Ridiculously expensive soggy pies: take a sandwich for goodness sake. Or eat before the game. Can't you go 90 minutes without eating? Sunday was a 3pm kick off - what meal time did that cover?
Average big screens: cry me a river. If I wanted to watch the game on TV I'd stay at home.
Sponsors promotions that they pass as halftime 'entertainment': sorry, I care about this why? What do you expect for your $30? The best rugby league players in the world plus 12 minutes of U2 during oranges? I generally spend half time whingeing to my mates about how crap we've been first dig anyway, I don't care what's going on on the pitch.

Mate who the hell do you think you are. Accusing people who cannot afford the $30 as not being a real fan. My father has supported this team for more than 60 years, he has evry right to feel that the prices of tickets are too much. I believe you are the type of supporter we can do with out.

The comparisons to movies is not an approppriate comparison. The movie is not on at home for free,

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

FFS, we can't have it both ways… If you want more games played at CSS and LO, you'll have to pay a premium. Like many others have said, $30 to watch 160 mins of Rugby League over four hours is better than paying $20 to watch the latest 80 minute Hollywood offering which these days seems to be a remake, a comic book adaptation or a banal piece of crap.

$30 is too much. I don't buy your movie ticket comparison. I think that movie tickets cost too much as well. I don't think you can say, 'they inflate their prices so we should do the same'.

What is the point of a club if the supporters of that club don't even feel like they can afford to come to games? The club gouges its supporters with new jerseys every 3 months, steep ticket prices, ridiculously expensive soggy pies, average big screens and sponsors promotions that they pass as halftime 'entertainment'. And we cop it because we love the club, but it isn't a good deal and the fans deserve better.

The club justifies its prices because it is a 'premium product', but it isn't worth it if the stadium is half full. The ticket pricing is also a poor financial decision because it ignores the long term consequences of inflated prices. If prices are too high then you cut out a generation of fans, and that generation doesn't bring their kids to the game and none of them then buy jerseys and merchandise. So, it is short term thinking which has got the club in the position to get a crowd of only 13k despite everything being in place for a cracker game. Does anyone dispute the fact that the price of a ticket prevented some (and probably many) from coming to the game? And what happens when we don't have benji Marshall anymore? Rugby League is digging itself a massive hole by treating its fans so poorly.

Wests tigers should cut the price of GA tickets and they should offer free or dirt cheap tickets to u/16 kids and they should do something to make food a viable option at matches. When they start getting too many people coming to games then it is fair enough to start thinking about raising the price of a ticket. But, the prices they are charging are prohibitive and this is working against the interests of rugby league. A rugby league club is a business, but its business is based on building its fan base and winning premierships. We are not Warner Bros and we are not even Souths (who are privately owned), so why should the club treat the fans so poorly?

I think all this crap about community outreach and improving marketing is peripheral to the key issue. Drop the prices and watch the crowds improve, it is a simple formula.

Look, I'm sorry, but if $30 is more than the Tigers are worth to you then I don't need you as a fan. You're not going to be there when they're crap again, you're not going to show up when it's cold or raining or the oppo are too bad or too good. $30, with all respect to people who are really struggling, is not that much money.

On the other points:
New jerseys: don't buy them if you don't want them. I've got one Tigers jersey and I'm not short of cash. I don't like the ones they've used for the past season and a half, so I haven't bought one. Am I 'less of a fan' because of that? No.
Ridiculously expensive soggy pies: take a sandwich for goodness sake. Or eat before the game. Can't you go 90 minutes without eating? Sunday was a 3pm kick off - what meal time did that cover?
Average big screens: cry me a river. If I wanted to watch the game on TV I'd stay at home.
Sponsors promotions that they pass as halftime 'entertainment': sorry, I care about this why? What do you expect for your $30? The best rugby league players in the world plus 12 minutes of U2 during oranges? I generally spend half time whingeing to my mates about how crap we've been first dig anyway, I don't care what's going on on the pitch.

Mate who the hell do you think you are. Accusing people who cannot afford the $30 as not being a real fan. My father has supported this team for more than 60 years, he has evry right to feel that the prices of tickets are too much. I believe you are the type of supporter we can do with out.

The comparisons to movies is not an approppriate comparison. The movie is not on at home for free,

It can be with a ADSL connection and a file sharing client Cochise, so it is an appropriate comparison. Just like if it were on Fox, you could easily find an illegal stream to watch if you don't have/can't afford Foxtel.

It also doesn't matter whether you've supported a team for 60 seconds or 60 years, when you happen to be born has no bearing on whether your opinion holds any more weight than anyone else's.

He (2041,) also said in a following post that his point obviously didn't apply to people who can't afford it.

 

[cochise]

nor does how much you earn. He wasa the one who stated if $30 is too much your not a real fan.

Your comparison is still not valid as it is illegal to download movies, its not illegal to watch the footy at home, but nice try

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

nor does how much you earn. He wasa the one who stated if $30 is too much your not a real fan.

Your comparison is still not valid as it is illegal to download movies, its not illegal to watch them footy at home, but nice try

You think that the illegality precludes people from being able to access it? No, it doesn't.

 

[cochise]

Are you saying the fact it is illegal to download a movie does not stop some people from doing it, of course it does. So your comparison is still not valid, but you are welcome to keep trying.

 

[cochise]

I also never said that someon who has supported the team for longer has more right to an opinion than someone else. I said that he has every right for his opinion. I was also being a smart arse with the comment that I believe that he is the type of support we can do without, I was using is words against him, but that style of humour does not come across in writing.

 

[innsaneink]

Gotta love people who can determine just how much other people can afford or not…

 

[innsaneink]

Something about footy after Origins too historically the crowds are often poor…..and this weekend across the board is no exception.
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**Crowd average Round 12: 12,784**

Personally I think that is clutching at straws a bit. Everything was in place for 18K today. Whatever the club is doing, the need to do more. WHat sort of crowds are going to turn up for our night games there when you can only draw 13K on a perfect Sunday?

Clutching at straws my a–-
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/the-threeheaded-monster-that-is-swallowing-the-nrl-20120528-1zeav.html
Been happening for a while now

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Are you saying the fact it is illegal to download a movie does not stop some people from doing it, of course it does. So your comparison is still not valid, but you are welcome to keep trying.

Yes that is what I'm saying… :unamused:

My point is the legalities are not an issue. People can and will do it ergo people can watch a movie at home for free when it's at the cinema.

The whole point is lost on you anyway, so I have no interest in debating it further.

 

[Knuckles]

Gotta love people who can determine just how much other people can afford or not…

Yes

It's $30 if you go on your own …. Most fans don't go on their own hence it can be an expensive day out. Throw in two kids who like to be fed at the game and I am sure it is easy to spend north of $100 which is expensive for someone on a single income and a mortgage.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Are you saying the fact it is illegal to download a movie does not stop some people from doing it, of course it does. So your comparison is still not valid, but you are welcome to keep trying.

i lol'd at this comment

 

[cochise]

Are you saying the fact it is illegal to download a movie does not stop some people from doing it, of course it does. So your comparison is still not valid, but you are welcome to keep trying.

Yes that is what I'm saying… :unamused:

My point is the legalities are not an issue. People can and will do it ergo people can watch a movie at home for free when it's at the cinema.

The whole point is lost on you anyway, so I have no interest in debating it further.

How is the point lost on me, you can not compare going to the movies to going to the football, when the football is readily available at home for free and legally. You might aswell say that because the movies are easy to sneak into that they are also available for free.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Are you saying the fact it is illegal to download a movie does not stop some people from doing it, of course it does. So your comparison is still not valid, but you are welcome to keep trying.

Yes that is what I'm saying… :unamused:

My point is the legalities are not an issue. People can and will do it ergo people can watch a movie at home for free when it's at the cinema.

The whole point is lost on you anyway, so I have no interest in debating it further.

How is the point lost on me, you can not compare going to the movies to going to the football, when the football is readily available at home for free and legally. You might aswell say that because the movies are easy to sneak into that they are also available for free.

Refer to my last post.