Here's Your Chance Campbelltown

[Mrs_T]

For those saying the ticket prices are fair, please explain why our club charges the MOST out of ALL the Western Sydney teams…

GA for a Panthers game is $22 for an adult

GA for a Eels game is $22 for an adult

GA for a Bulldogs game is $20 for an adult pre-sale or $25 for gate tickets.

And what is the financial state of Parra and Penriff?

The Bulldogs can afford to charge $20 for an adult, because they have a 80,000 seat stadium to fill. And unless WT go back to Homebush, you will not see ticket pricing at that mark.

FFS, we can't have it both ways… If you want more games played at CSS and LO, you'll have to pay a premium. Like many others have said, $30 to watch 160 mins of Rugby League over four hours is better than paying $20 to watch the latest 80 minute Hollywood offering which these days seems to be a remake, a comic book adaptation or a banal piece of crap.

**We are the only Sydney based team to charge that much…**

All others charge between 20-25 for GA tickets...

Ive never had an issue paying to go to the footy but when you have a family its a bloody expensive day out and its understandable why the crowds aren't as big as what people would like.. Afterall the people of Campbelltown aren't exactly made of money...

No. I paid $30 for GA at a Roosters game, may have been Foundation Cup, last year.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

You are right about the movie prices 2041\. I went with the girlfriend a few weeks back and for two tickets, popcorn and 2 drinks, it was 70 bucks :crazy

Anyway i think of it like this. Lets say we were playing the Sharks yesterday, it would have been gaurenteed 18K. Why you ask? because the Sharks actually have a fan base in Sydney, so naturally a good number are going to turn up. When theres 20 thousand at a game, do you honestly believe they all supporters of one team? opposition supporters make a strong contribution to crowd figures. Thats something thats being conveniently overlooked imo

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

You are right about the movie prices 2041\. I went with the girlfriend a few weeks back and for two tickets, popcorn and 2 drinks, it was 70 bucks :crazy

Anyway i think of it like this. Lets say we were playing the Sharks yesterday, it would have been gaurenteed 18K. Why you ask? because the Sharks actually have a fan base in Sydney, so naturally a good number are going to turn up. When theres 20 thousand at a game, do you honestly believe they all supporters of one team? opposition supporters make a strong contribution to crowd figures. Thats something thats being conveniently overlooked imo

If we were playing the Sharks or Souffs yesterday, the ground would have been close to sold out.

The fact that we played a team that has virtually no presence in Sydney compounds the poor figures.

 

[Mothermagpie]

Before the season started certain people tried marched in protest for more games to be played at Campbelltown. This game was their chance to show that their march was justified but the numbers showed that marchers were just blowing their own horn.

So does this statement mean that only Campbelltown people should go to C'town games???

I thought we are the WESTSTIGERS and that all supporters should try to make it to Sydney games??

As we travel to Leichhardt and other grounds… :deadhorse:

 

[Goose]

You are right about the movie prices 2041\. I went with the girlfriend a few weeks back and for two tickets, popcorn and 2 drinks, it was 70 bucks :crazy

Anyway i think of it like this. Lets say we were playing the Sharks yesterday, it would have been gaurenteed 18K. Why you ask? because the Sharks actually have a fan base in Sydney, so naturally a good number are going to turn up. When theres 20 thousand at a game, do you honestly believe they all supporters of one team? opposition supporters make a strong contribution to crowd figures. Thats something thats being conveniently overlooked imo

Agreed, no away supporters hurt crowd figures.

People make all these accusations and excuses, no need for either IMO

We played an out of sydney team and got a crowd in line approximately with what you'd expect.

 

[2041]

You are right about the movie prices 2041\. I went with the girlfriend a few weeks back and for two tickets, popcorn and 2 drinks, it was 70 bucks :crazy

Anyway i think of it like this. Lets say we were playing the Sharks yesterday, it would have been gaurenteed 18K. Why you ask? because the Sharks actually have a fan base in Sydney, so naturally a good number are going to turn up. When theres 20 thousand at a game, do you honestly believe they all supporters of one team? opposition supporters make a strong contribution to crowd figures. Thats something thats being conveniently overlooked imo

True, though if the comparison is Campbelltown v Leichhardt it has to be said that the same applies to both. You can pretty much guarantee that any season's Leichhardt games will include at least two or three of the non-Broncos out of town sides. If we're playing anyone who will really bring a crowd it'll be at the SFS.

Incidentally, can I throw in Souths here as the classic example of the fallacy of playing all games at the big grounds? When we play them at home the poor tramps are so starved of local football that isn't played at a soulless bowl in the middle of nowhere that they turn up in droves. Yet their home games frequently attract pathetic crowds (well below their alleged membership figures *ahem*). Possibly because no-one in their right mind - or even a Souths fan attracted by the prospect of a roof over their head for a couple of hours - wants to go to Homebush all the time?

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

You are right about the movie prices 2041\. I went with the girlfriend a few weeks back and for two tickets, popcorn and 2 drinks, it was 70 bucks :crazy

Anyway i think of it like this. Lets say we were playing the Sharks yesterday, it would have been gaurenteed 18K. Why you ask? because the Sharks actually have a fan base in Sydney, so naturally a good number are going to turn up. When theres 20 thousand at a game, do you honestly believe they all supporters of one team? opposition supporters make a strong contribution to crowd figures. Thats something thats being conveniently overlooked imo

Agreed, no away supporters hurt crowd figures.

People make all these accusations and excuses, no need for either IMO

We played an out of sydney team and got a crowd in line approximately with what you'd expect.

And we were slightly above the average anyway.

 

[Dazza-96]

Something's clearly wrong with the style of marketing used to connect with and attract the people of the MacArthur region to their home games. Clinics, Gala Days, School Visits, Mall appearances, Junior Footy involvement, competitions through the media and complimentary tickets to all registered juniors. How many of these initiatives are in place? $30 for a GA ticket seems unreasonably steep, makes it an expensive afternoon for a parent and a couple of kids.

At my High School our head Sport teacher gives out passes to get into the games for free, usually get 3 one for Me, Dad and a mate

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Looks like theres lucky to be 10 thousand at the SFS tonight, and thats with 2 Sydney teams

 

[Goose]

You are right about the movie prices 2041\. I went with the girlfriend a few weeks back and for two tickets, popcorn and 2 drinks, it was 70 bucks :crazy

Anyway i think of it like this. Lets say we were playing the Sharks yesterday, it would have been gaurenteed 18K. Why you ask? because the Sharks actually have a fan base in Sydney, so naturally a good number are going to turn up. When theres 20 thousand at a game, do you honestly believe they all supporters of one team? opposition supporters make a strong contribution to crowd figures. Thats something thats being conveniently overlooked imo

True, though if the comparison is Campbelltown v Leichhardt it has to be said that the same applies to both. You can pretty much guarantee that any season's Leichhardt games will include at least two or three of the non-Broncos out of town sides. If we're playing anyone who will really bring a crowd it'll be at the SFS.

Incidentally, can I throw in Souths here as the classic example of the fallacy of playing all games at the big grounds? When we play them at home the poor tramps are so starved of local football that isn't played at a soulless bowl in the middle of nowhere that they turn up in droves. Yet their home games frequently attract pathetic crowds (well below their alleged membership figures *ahem*). Possibly because no-one in their right mind - or even a Souths fan attracted by the prospect of a roof over their head for a couple of hours - wants to go to Homebush all the time?

Agree, if we played all our games at any of the grounds, the average crowds would be lower, currently it is a treat at each of the 3 grounds, so we are more inclined to turn up at each of them.
if we played every game at Leichhardt, which currently sells out or near enough, pretty much every time, the novelty would wear off and we would all be complaining about the poor facilities and playing in front of crowds of less than 10k. But for 4 games a year I love it, even my non football loving wife loves to get to Leichhardt at least once a year.
If we played the cowboys at SFS on the weekend it would have been in front of well less than 10K.

 

[cochise]

Anyone who thinks that ticket prices of $30 for GA is the way to get people to the football is kidding themselves. Its fine for me as I have a good paying job, I wouldnt have a problem spending $30 to go to a game of footy. I talked my Father in to going to the game yesterday, but it will probably be his last game as he is retired and $30x2 is just too much for a game of football that he can watch at home for free.

The comparison to a movie is not really a valid comparison as I can not sit at home and watch that movie unless I wait a couple of months.

$30 is too much for a game of footbal to attract some people.

 

[watersider]

FFS, we can't have it both ways… If you want more games played at CSS and LO, you'll have to pay a premium. Like many others have said, $30 to watch 160 mins of Rugby League over four hours is better than paying $20 to watch the latest 80 minute Hollywood offering which these days seems to be a remake, a comic book adaptation or a banal piece of crap.

$30 is too much. I don't buy your movie ticket comparison. I think that movie tickets cost too much as well. I don't think you can say, 'they inflate their prices so we should do the same'.

What is the point of a club if the supporters of that club don't even feel like they can afford to come to games? The club gouges its supporters with new jerseys every 3 months, steep ticket prices, ridiculously expensive soggy pies, average big screens and sponsors promotions that they pass as halftime 'entertainment'. And we cop it because we love the club, but it isn't a good deal and the fans deserve better.

The club justifies its prices because it is a 'premium product', but it isn't worth it if the stadium is half full. The ticket pricing is also a poor financial decision because it ignores the long term consequences of inflated prices. If prices are too high then you cut out a generation of fans, and that generation doesn't bring their kids to the game and none of them then buy jerseys and merchandise. So, it is short term thinking which has got the club in the position to get a crowd of only 13k despite everything being in place for a cracker game. Does anyone dispute the fact that the price of a ticket prevented some (and probably many) from coming to the game? And what happens when we don't have benji Marshall anymore? Rugby League is digging itself a massive hole by treating its fans so poorly.

Wests tigers should cut the price of GA tickets and they should offer free or dirt cheap tickets to u/16 kids and they should do something to make food a viable option at matches. When they start getting too many people coming to games then it is fair enough to start thinking about raising the price of a ticket. But, the prices they are charging are prohibitive and this is working against the interests of rugby league. A rugby league club is a business, but its business is based on building its fan base and winning premierships. We are not Warner Bros and we are not even Souths (who are privately owned), so why should the club treat the fans so poorly?

I think all this crap about community outreach and improving marketing is peripheral to the key issue. Drop the prices and watch the crowds improve, it is a simple formula.

 

[innsaneink]

I dont see the biggie every game this round the crowds were down for whatever reason
Higher power bills?
Tax time coming up?
Its not just us.

 

[Knuckles]

I dont see the biggie every game this round the crowds were down for whatever reason
Higher power bills?
Tax time coming up?
Its not just us.

Blame it on the carbon tax !

 

[hybrid_tiger]

How much do you people think the tickets should be?

They have to make money, FFS.

 

[Bismark]

How much do you people think the tickets should be?

They have to make money, FFS.

If the price was a factor in people not turning up, then you'd have to argue that setting the price high is a poor way of generating cash.

 

[Knuckles]

There are lots of initiatives the club could introduce. Free entry for kids under 16 would be a start …. Particularly against out of town clubs.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

FFS, we can't have it both ways… If you want more games played at CSS and LO, you'll have to pay a premium. Like many others have said, $30 to watch 160 mins of Rugby League over four hours is better than paying $20 to watch the latest 80 minute Hollywood offering which these days seems to be a remake, a comic book adaptation or a banal piece of crap.

$30 is too much. I don't buy your movie ticket comparison. I think that movie tickets cost too much as well. I don't think you can say, 'they inflate their prices so we should do the same'.

What is the point of a club if the supporters of that club don't even feel like they can afford to come to games? The club gouges its supporters with new jerseys every 3 months, steep ticket prices, ridiculously expensive soggy pies, average big screens and sponsors promotions that they pass as halftime 'entertainment'. And we cop it because we love the club, but it isn't a good deal and the fans deserve better.

The club justifies its prices because it is a 'premium product', but it isn't worth it if the stadium is half full. The ticket pricing is also a poor financial decision because it ignores the long term consequences of inflated prices. If prices are too high then you cut out a generation of fans, and that generation doesn't bring their kids to the game and none of them then buy jerseys and merchandise. So, it is short term thinking which has got the club in the position to get a crowd of only 13k despite everything being in place for a cracker game. Does anyone dispute the fact that the price of a ticket prevented some (and probably many) from coming to the game? And what happens when we don't have benji Marshall anymore? Rugby League is digging itself a massive hole by treating its fans so poorly.

Wests tigers should cut the price of GA tickets and they should offer free or dirt cheap tickets to u/16 kids and they should do something to make food a viable option at matches. When they start getting too many people coming to games then it is fair enough to start thinking about raising the price of a ticket. But, the prices they are charging are prohibitive and this is working against the interests of rugby league. A rugby league club is a business, but its business is based on building its fan base and winning premierships. We are not Warner Bros and we are not even Souths (who are privately owned), so why should the club treat the fans so poorly?

I think all this crap about community outreach and improving marketing is peripheral to the key issue. Drop the prices and watch the crowds improve, it is a simple formula.

That's your opinion, and you're entitled to it. You make some valid points but I think we will have to agree to disagree on this one. My reference to the movie ticket pricing wasn't that WT are given carte blanche to rip the fans off because movie tickets are expensive but moreso "look what Hoyts offers you for $20, and look what LO/CSS offers you for $30."

Drop the prices by all means, if it's financially viable. If it's not, then we will have to look at moving to a larger stadium full time in order to drop prices. I don't expect WT to run at a loss.

 

[AndTheKungFoSing]

I dont see the biggie every game this round the crowds were down for whatever reason
Higher power bills?
Tax time coming up?
Its not just us.

Read an interesting article about origin having a detrimental affect in this area on the club games throughout this period… Not sure where I read it, think the SMH.

I agree, Origin should be played end of season.

 

[2041]

You are right about the movie prices 2041\. I went with the girlfriend a few weeks back and for two tickets, popcorn and 2 drinks, it was 70 bucks :crazy

Anyway i think of it like this. Lets say we were playing the Sharks yesterday, it would have been gaurenteed 18K. Why you ask? because the Sharks actually have a fan base in Sydney, so naturally a good number are going to turn up. When theres 20 thousand at a game, do you honestly believe they all supporters of one team? opposition supporters make a strong contribution to crowd figures. Thats something thats being conveniently overlooked imo

True, though if the comparison is Campbelltown v Leichhardt it has to be said that the same applies to both. You can pretty much guarantee that any season's Leichhardt games will include at least two or three of the non-Broncos out of town sides. If we're playing anyone who will really bring a crowd it'll be at the SFS.

Incidentally, can I throw in Souths here as the classic example of the fallacy of playing all games at the big grounds? When we play them at home the poor tramps are so starved of local football that isn't played at a soulless bowl in the middle of nowhere that they turn up in droves. Yet their home games frequently attract pathetic crowds (well below their alleged membership figures *ahem*). Possibly because no-one in their right mind - or even a Souths fan attracted by the prospect of a roof over their head for a couple of hours - wants to go to Homebush all the time?

Agree, if we played all our games at any of the grounds, the average crowds would be lower, currently it is a treat at each of the 3 grounds, so we are more inclined to turn up at each of them.
if we played every game at Leichhardt, which currently sells out or near enough, pretty much every time, the novelty would wear off and we would all be complaining about the poor facilities and playing in front of crowds of less than 10k. But for 4 games a year I love it, even my non football loving wife loves to get to Leichhardt at least once a year.
If we played the cowboys at SFS on the weekend it would have been in front of well less than 10K.

Agreed (though my wife refuses to go back to Leichhardt after her one and only trip - a defeat to Penrith on a cold, wet Friday night - even though all she has to do is walk across Balmain Road. The idea that playing all the games at the SFS or that dump at Homebush would somehow increase crowds is ludicrous.