High shot on Fui Fui

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westTAHger

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how long do you think Kasiano from bulldogs will be suspended for due to his high shot on Fui Fui in opening tackle of match last night.
 
I really don't know how they could even think of suspending him. There was no intent whatsoever, the point of contact was purely accidental. There is absolutely nothing you can do when a bloke falls down into a tackle like that. Surely people can see that.
 
@Flippedy said:
I really don't know how they could even think of suspending him. There was no intent whatsoever, the point of contact was purely accidental. There is absolutely nothing you can do when a bloke falls down into a tackle like that. Surely people can see that.
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Yeh, you'd think so.
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1-2 weeks

Why do you say that?
 
I would hope 0 but they tend to give a minor charge because of the clenched fist in the action and allowing for his carryovers he may miss a week
 
I watched the tackle again, for the sake of the game I hope he gets nothing as moimoi fell into the arm. No way kasiano intended to hit his head. I'm saying that from a point of view of dead set hating the dogs.

It's a collision sport and sometimes people get hurt. Deal with it and get ready for next week.

In saying that I would fully support the calls for an 18th man, although there would need to be some strict rules around the use of it.
 
Bulldogs forward Sam Kasiano could miss Friday night’s blockbuster clash against Manly at Brookvale oval after he was charged with a Grade 2 Careless High tackle by the NRL match review committee on Monday.
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Kasiano was charged for his hit on Parramatta forward Fuifui Moimoi in the opening minute of his side’s 32-12 win over the Eels at ANZ Stadium.
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The base penalty for the Grade 2 charge is 125 points, but Kasiano also has 45 carry-over points, meaning even with an early guilty plea he will miss the showdown with Manly on Friday night.
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The Bulldogs have until midday on Tuesday to enter a plea, but would need a not guilty verdict at the NRL judiciary for Kasiano to play.
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If the Bulldogs contest the grading of the charge and are successful in getting it downgraded to a Grade 1, Kasiano would still be ruled out for a week due to his carry-over points.
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The Canterbury-Bankstown forward was the only player charged from Round 19, with the Roosters hosting the Rabbitohs tonight at Allianz Stadium in Monday night football.

rubbish decision…. should've got no charge or a big charge for a swinging arm
there was no intent though
 
@innsaneink said:
@Flippedy said:
I really don't know how they could even think of suspending him. There was no intent whatsoever, the point of contact was purely accidental. There is absolutely nothing you can do when a bloke falls down into a tackle like that. Surely people can see that.

Yeh, you'd think so.
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1-2 weeks

Why do you say that?
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I'm not a fan of half the suspensions this year for the Shoulder or most High Shots, as the game is turning into a pussies sport simply to cater for Athletes who cant take a knock… (When I was playing, you wouldve got up, smiled and given the bloke a wink knowing you will return the favour at some stage in the game)

But if the judiciary is going to be consistent, he has to get a minimum of 1 week as he has loading.
 
It was careless and he should have been charged - it was a swinging arm. I know the contact was accidental, but that is the risk you take when you swing the arm.

Doesn't matter if he only received a grade 1, still would have missed a week with the carry over points.
 
@Tiger Watto said:
@innsaneink said:
@Flippedy said:
I really don't know how they could even think of suspending him. There was no intent whatsoever, the point of contact was purely accidental. There is absolutely nothing you can do when a bloke falls down into a tackle like that. Surely people can see that.

Yeh, you'd think so.
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1-2 weeks

Why do you say that?

I'm not a fan of half the suspensions this year for the Shoulder or most High Shots, as the game is turning into a pussies sport simply to cater for Athletes who cant take a knock… (When I was playing, you wouldve got up, smiled and given the bloke a wink knowing you will return the favour at some stage in the game)

But if the judiciary is going to be consistent, he has to get a minimum of 1 week as he has loading.
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What you described, and what happened, are two very different things.

It was careless and he should have been charged - it was a swinging arm. I know the contact was accidental, but that is the risk you take when you swing the arm.
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Doesn't matter if he only received a grade 1, still would have missed a week with the carry over points.

Utter utter garbage

If you have a bloke the size of Moi Moi running at you full steam, tackle one…all pumped up....if you (Kasiano) dont put some momentum into your tackle ie swing your arm....you (Kasiano)will end up being a speed hump
(have a look at tonites game youll see arms swinging everywhere)

Fair dinkum joke of a decision....Moi Moi contributed to the entire incident
 
@innsaneink said:
@Tiger Watto said:
@innsaneink said:
@Flippedy said:
I really don't know how they could even think of suspending him. There was no intent whatsoever, the point of contact was purely accidental. There is absolutely nothing you can do when a bloke falls down into a tackle like that. Surely people can see that.

Yeh, you'd think so.
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1-2 weeks

Why do you say that?

I'm not a fan of half the suspensions this year for the Shoulder or most High Shots, as the game is turning into a pussies sport simply to cater for Athletes who cant take a knock… (When I was playing, you wouldve got up, smiled and given the bloke a wink knowing you will return the favour at some stage in the game)

But if the judiciary is going to be consistent, he has to get a minimum of 1 week as he has loading.

What you described, and what happened, are two very different things.

It was careless and he should have been charged - it was a swinging arm. I know the contact was accidental, but that is the risk you take when you swing the arm.
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Doesn't matter if he only received a grade 1, still would have missed a week with the carry over points.

Utter utter garbage

If you have a bloke the size of Moi Moi running at you full steam, tackle one…all pumped up....if you (Kasiano) dont put some momentum into your tackle ie swing your arm....you (Kasiano)will end up being a speed hump
(have a look at tonites game youll see arms swinging everywhere)

Fair dinkum joke of a decision....Moi Moi contributed to the entire incident
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Risk and reward is inherent in careless actions.

The risk is that contact is made with the head, which is dangerous and accordingly needs to be punished - accidental or not. The grading system will take into account the 'accident' involved, had both players been more upright Kasiano would be out for 4+ weeks, instead of the 1.

The reward, especially in the vivid image you point out, is that Fui Fui doesn't fall and Kasiano makes a solid, aggressive tackle that may have stung. More often than not, the defender wins and gets the reward for a aggressive (if not careless) tackle. But you have to pay the price if it goes awry.

People complain about the game going soft, etc etc. But it won't go soft - Kasiano has to live with the one week suspension. In a months time he will forget about it, get aggressive again, and probably not have another tackle go wrong for another few seasons.

Bryce Gibbs rarely flattens players with huge body contact, but he rarely finds himself in hot water with the judiciary because his tackling technique has little risk.
 
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