happy_tiger
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@willow said:
Let me guess , the Storm have scored 3 times since this comment and are currently running in a 4th :smiley:
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Let me guess , the Storm have scored 3 times since this comment and are currently running in a 4th :smiley:
Tigers too good in the Holden Cup
Sun 17 Apr, 2016, 3:36pm
Martin Gabor, National Correspondent , NRL.com
Not even a huge downpour just before kick-off could dampen the Tigers' comfortable 44-12 win over the Melbourne Thunderbolts at Leichhardt Oval on Sunday afternoon. Nine separate players crossed for the hosts in a performance that will see them remain in the Holden Cup top eight for a least another week. Tigers No.6 Veiru Mapesone had a brilliant first half with a try and two assists, while Jacob Liddle looked all class in his second NYC game of the season.
After piling on 44 second-half points against the Bulldogs last week, the Thunderbolts quickly picked up where they left off, with No.9 Sam Burns doing it all himself from dummy-half to open the scoring inside five minutes. But that's where the joy ended for the visitors, with the Tigers piling on three tries in seven minutes to take complete control of the contest.
Veiru Mapesone got their first in the 11th minute courtesy of some lovely work down the right edge by Samuel DeFiddes. From the next set, Jacob Liddle took full advantage of a quick play the ball to split Melbourne's ruck defence before linking up with fullback Luke Sharpe to cap off the 70 metre effort. Having scored their first, Mapesone turned provider moments later; the Tigers five-eighth chipping early in the count for Obed Karwhin to score out wide. The scoring procession continued in the 27th minute as Liddle set up Mark McCormack despite Jack Wheelhouse slipping over twice with the line wide open the previous play.
The Thunderbolts had a chance late in the half to narrow the deficit, but Brodie Croft's grubber was scooped up by Mapesone off his own line, and two plays later Moses Suli streaked away down the right to make it 22-6 at the break. The second stanza couldn't have started much worse for Melbourne, with Joel Gittins bundled into touch after just four plays, before McCormack set up centre Ryland Jacobs for a simple try.
Errors dictated the next 10 minutes with neither side able to complete a set of six until a cross-field kick from Croft was batted back by Angelo Leaupepe for Drinkwater to score. Sadly for the Thunderbolts that try only proved to be a mere consolation as Esan Marsters juggled his way through the line before crashing over to make it 34-12 after 61 minutes. Big Taniela Paseka barged his way over from 15 metres to score another Tigers four-pointer before fullback Luke Sharpe set up his No.7 for the try of the day. The Tigers custodian sliced straight through some tired defence before stepping past the fullback, drawing the cover defence and sending his halfback over to seal the crushing 32-point win.
Wests Tigers 44 (Veiru Mapesone, Luke Sharpe, Obed Karwhin, Mark McCormack, Moses Suli, Ryland Jacobs, Esan Marsters, Taniela Paseka, Thomas Bartley tries; Thomas Bartley 3, Veiru Mapesone 1 goals) defeated Melbourne Thunderbolts 12 (Sam Burns, Scott Drinkwater tires; Jesse Arthars 2 goals) at Leichhardt Oval. Half-time: 22-6 Tige
Sun 17 Apr, 2016, 3:36pm
Martin Gabor, National Correspondent , NRL.com
Not even a huge downpour just before kick-off could dampen the Tigers' comfortable 44-12 win over the Melbourne Thunderbolts at Leichhardt Oval on Sunday afternoon. Nine separate players crossed for the hosts in a performance that will see them remain in the Holden Cup top eight for a least another week. Tigers No.6 Veiru Mapesone had a brilliant first half with a try and two assists, while Jacob Liddle looked all class in his second NYC game of the season.
After piling on 44 second-half points against the Bulldogs last week, the Thunderbolts quickly picked up where they left off, with No.9 Sam Burns doing it all himself from dummy-half to open the scoring inside five minutes. But that's where the joy ended for the visitors, with the Tigers piling on three tries in seven minutes to take complete control of the contest.
Veiru Mapesone got their first in the 11th minute courtesy of some lovely work down the right edge by Samuel DeFiddes. From the next set, Jacob Liddle took full advantage of a quick play the ball to split Melbourne's ruck defence before linking up with fullback Luke Sharpe to cap off the 70 metre effort. Having scored their first, Mapesone turned provider moments later; the Tigers five-eighth chipping early in the count for Obed Karwhin to score out wide. The scoring procession continued in the 27th minute as Liddle set up Mark McCormack despite Jack Wheelhouse slipping over twice with the line wide open the previous play.
The Thunderbolts had a chance late in the half to narrow the deficit, but Brodie Croft's grubber was scooped up by Mapesone off his own line, and two plays later Moses Suli streaked away down the right to make it 22-6 at the break. The second stanza couldn't have started much worse for Melbourne, with Joel Gittins bundled into touch after just four plays, before McCormack set up centre Ryland Jacobs for a simple try.
Errors dictated the next 10 minutes with neither side able to complete a set of six until a cross-field kick from Croft was batted back by Angelo Leaupepe for Drinkwater to score. Sadly for the Thunderbolts that try only proved to be a mere consolation as Esan Marsters juggled his way through the line before crashing over to make it 34-12 after 61 minutes. Big Taniela Paseka barged his way over from 15 metres to score another Tigers four-pointer before fullback Luke Sharpe set up his No.7 for the try of the day. The Tigers custodian sliced straight through some tired defence before stepping past the fullback, drawing the cover defence and sending his halfback over to seal the crushing 32-point win.
Wests Tigers 44 (Veiru Mapesone, Luke Sharpe, Obed Karwhin, Mark McCormack, Moses Suli, Ryland Jacobs, Esan Marsters, Taniela Paseka, Thomas Bartley tries; Thomas Bartley 3, Veiru Mapesone 1 goals) defeated Melbourne Thunderbolts 12 (Sam Burns, Scott Drinkwater tires; Jesse Arthars 2 goals) at Leichhardt Oval. Half-time: 22-6 Tige
balmain boy
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Sounds like a good win, which i was disappointed not to be able to see in person.
I'm still not convinced about Sharpe though. He seems like the type of player we select far too often in NYC. Small and quick, and able to carve up at u20s but highly unlikely to ever make the step up to being a seasoned first grader. Another player in the Mullaney, Rowe type of mould. Tiny.
In my opinion we should be aiming for all players at NYC level to be able to step up to NRL. Selecting players who are unlikely to do so benefits the team in the short term but ultimately doesn't provide the WT with the quality juniors we need to step up in the future.
I'm still not convinced about Sharpe though. He seems like the type of player we select far too often in NYC. Small and quick, and able to carve up at u20s but highly unlikely to ever make the step up to being a seasoned first grader. Another player in the Mullaney, Rowe type of mould. Tiny.
In my opinion we should be aiming for all players at NYC level to be able to step up to NRL. Selecting players who are unlikely to do so benefits the team in the short term but ultimately doesn't provide the WT with the quality juniors we need to step up in the future.
fergiefurr
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@Balmain Boy said:I'm still not convinced about Sharpe though. He seems like the type of player we select far too often in NYC. Small and quick, and able to carve up at u20s but highly unlikely to ever make the step up to being a seasoned first grader. Another player in the Mullaney, Rowe type of mould. Tiny.
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I thought the same and it might still turn out to be true but Sharpe seems a lot tougher then your Mullaney, Rowe types. I've seen him put his body on the line in many try defending situations and he usually comes out on top.
I'm good mates with the strength and conditioning trainer from Wyong (his junior club) and he said he is held in extremely high regard there and generally played a year or two up throughout the grades. coaches were initially worried about his size but after watching him play never had an issues putting him up.
Another advantage is that he has played fullback all his life. Mullaney played in the halves until NYC and Rowe always floated between fullback and wing.
I agree that chances are against him (especially with papenhuyzen only a year behind him) however if he does manage to put a bit of size on he could make a career for himself.
balmain boy
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@fergiefurr said:@Balmain Boy said:I'm still not convinced about Sharpe though. He seems like the type of player we select far too often in NYC. Small and quick, and able to carve up at u20s but highly unlikely to ever make the step up to being a seasoned first grader. Another player in the Mullaney, Rowe type of mould. Tiny.
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I thought the same and it might still turn out to be true but Sharpe seems a lot tougher then your Mullaney, Rowe types. I've seen him put his body on the line in many try defending situations and he usually comes out on top.
I'm good mates with the strength and conditioning trainer from Wyong (his junior club) and he said he is held in extremely high regard there and generally played a year or two up throughout the grades. coaches were initially worried about his size but after watching him play never had an issues putting him up.
Another advantage is that he has played fullback all his life. Mullaney played in the halves until NYC and Rowe always floated between fullback and wing.
I agree that chances are against him (especially with papenhuyzen only a year behind him) however if he does manage to put a bit of size on he could make a career for himself.
I certainly hope that he does, and he can carve out a career, but like a Shannon Gallant, size and heart can sometimes only get you so far. If he's trying to take a bomb up against Semi, Inglis etc he'd be giving up almost a foot in height and reach, and have little chance of defending those sort of kicks on a regular basis at the highest level.
@Balmain Boy said:@fergiefurr said:@Balmain Boy said:I'm still not convinced about Sharpe though. He seems like the type of player we select far too often in NYC. Small and quick, and able to carve up at u20s but highly unlikely to ever make the step up to being a seasoned first grader. Another player in the Mullaney, Rowe type of mould. Tiny.
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I thought the same and it might still turn out to be true but Sharpe seems a lot tougher then your Mullaney, Rowe types. I've seen him put his body on the line in many try defending situations and he usually comes out on top.
I'm good mates with the strength and conditioning trainer from Wyong (his junior club) and he said he is held in extremely high regard there and generally played a year or two up throughout the grades. coaches were initially worried about his size but after watching him play never had an issues putting him up.
Another advantage is that he has played fullback all his life. Mullaney played in the halves until NYC and Rowe always floated between fullback and wing.
I agree that chances are against him (especially with papenhuyzen only a year behind him) however if he does manage to put a bit of size on he could make a career for himself.
I certainly hope that he does, and he can carve out a career, but like a Shannon Gallant, size and heart can sometimes only get you so far. If he's trying to take a bomb up against Semi, Inglis etc he'd be giving up almost a foot in height and reach, and have little chance of defending those sort of kicks on a regular basis at the highest level.
Either way he will struggle to make first grade ahead of Tedesco at the Tigers, unless he can transition to wing. I'd like to see him go on and succeed at another club though, (as long as we can hold onto Teddy) just as I'd like to see Te Maire Martin succeed.
balmain boy
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Papenhuyzen could potentially play this season, next week if he wants to.. But i think he was going to concentrate on his hsc for the moment…?
Benjirific
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@Balmain Boy said:Papenhuyzen could potentially play this season, next week if he wants to.. But i think he was going to concentrate on his hsc for the moment…?
He's actually gone on a rugby union tour. Hurt his hammy late in the SG Ball season, missed the last couple of games, and has chosen to go on the rugby tour for the moment. Sounds disappointing given he would be a big chance of playing some NYC this season.
balmain boy
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@Benjirific said:@Balmain Boy said:Papenhuyzen could potentially play this season, next week if he wants to.. But i think he was going to concentrate on his hsc for the moment…?
He's actually gone on a rugby union tour. Hurt his hammy late in the SG Ball season, missed the last couple of games, and has chosen to go on the rugby tour for the moment. Sounds disappointing given he would be a big chance of playing some NYC this season.
Yep, pretty disappointing when he's contracted to us to go on a rugby tour. With his school I imagine? Focus on grades is one thing, but another sport is a bit disrespectful.
@Balmain Boy said:@Benjirific said:@Balmain Boy said:Papenhuyzen could potentially play this season, next week if he wants to.. But i think he was going to concentrate on his hsc for the moment…?
He's actually gone on a rugby union tour. Hurt his hammy late in the SG Ball season, missed the last couple of games, and has chosen to go on the rugby tour for the moment. Sounds disappointing given he would be a big chance of playing some NYC this season.
Yep, pretty disappointing when he's contracted to us to go on a rugby tour. With his school I imagine? Focus on grades is one thing, but another sport is a bit disrespectful.
Ease up, the kid is 17 and in his last year of school, probably his last opportunity to play with his school mates. How is this disrespectful? I know for a fact that he missed the first 2 games on his rugby tour to ensure his previous injury was 100%. I also know that he is prepared to go to NYC is called upon
Pawsandclaws
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At some the well known private schools, it is mandatory to play rugby ahead of other sports. Similar situation in summer with GPS cricket v club cricket.
@Pawsandclaws said:At some the well known private schools, it is mandatory to play rugby ahead of other sports. Similar situation in summer with GPS cricket v club cricket.
Not at Oakhill where he attends school. This tour was an fantastic opportunity for him to see France & Spain, can't criticize him for wanting to do that! He returns on Anzac day, let's see if he gets the call up, I think Luke Sharp is going well, especially in the game against the storm
