HUMPHREYS ON Triple M Radio Tonight at 6PM

[Glennb]

FWIW I am becoming a fan of Humphreys. There has been a LOT of criticism here of him lately and on the surface a lot of it appears well founded, however after listening to the man speak today and explain clearly the clubs position on all the areas of conjecture, his explanations were clear and made sense.

I think the guy is due some praise for making things happen to end the rot on many fronts. I hope he will be looked at in the future as the man what stopped the rot and averted WT falling into the abyss for years like Balmain did.

 

[Gary_Bakerloo]

Gary, thats a newspaper article. I'd consider a Royal Commission a more thorough investigation and hardly a cover up (Yes I know what you mean about the initial Farqhuar incident). In the end all monies repaid and Humphreys was fined $4K. I do take back what I said about illegalities but even thats not clear cut.

What is clear cut is what a good and effective administrator he was for Balmain & NSW. Thats the only context that S Humphreys should be involved.

My initial post was to end this involvement of KH in the analysis of SH, lets try and leave it there.

No one should draw a line from the actions of Kevin Humphreys to Stephen - agreed.

 

[Glennb]

Gary, thats a newspaper article. I'd consider a Royal Commission a more thorough investigation and hardly a cover up (Yes I know what you mean about the initial Farqhuar incident). In the end all monies repaid and Humphreys was fined $4K. I do take back what I said about illegalities but even thats not clear cut.

What is clear cut is what a good and effective administrator he was for Balmain & NSW. Thats the only context that S Humphreys should be involved.

My initial post was to end this involvement of KH in the analysis of SH, lets try and leave it there.

No one should draw a line from the actions of Kevin Humphreys to Stephen - agreed.

Well discussed.

 

[Wacko_Jacko]

Getting to point where IMO HUMPHREYS HAS TO GO

 

[Glennb]

Getting to point where IMO HUMPHREYS HAS TO GO

Lets seriously discuss it…..why?

Any supporters of Balmain or Wests can remember years of their club in the depths. To me it seems the club is at crossroads the the man at the helm is forcing and overseeing significant change and I am happy about that. I would be more worried and critical if he was a "steady as it goes.....more of the same" kinda guy.

IMO the only thing that he can clearly be criticised for (and only with 20/20 hindsight) is resigning Sheens for 3 years and at the time a lot of people here were happy about it (me too probably) but again IMO this year was a very sharp turn for the worse and the man in charge has taken charge.

his explanations this morning on BSB were clear, reasonable and logical. They will do me and I'll steer clear of those wearing tinfoil.

 

[innsaneink]

LOL….look at the mess the club is currently in...talk about blind devotion.

The ''clubs'' at the crossroads. It didnt get their on its own. :unamused: And as you said, hes at the helm

 

[Glennb]

What else should he have done? Keep the coach?

Offer Heino 3 years? More money for Ryan?

 

[Bob]

Back to topic, has he been on yet? its on in the background but haven't heard anything about it…

 

[Goose]

LOL….look at the mess the club is currently in...talk about blind devotion.

The ''clubs'' at the crossroads. It didnt get their on its own. :unamused: And as you said, hes at the helm

TBF you are not exactly objective in this matter either.

You clearly do not like Humphries, and you judge every action with this in mind.

I like him, as do Glenb. Our "blind devotion" is no more subjective than your clear "hatred" to respond with similar hyperbole going.

 

[Swordy]

the apple never falls far from the tree especially amongst rugby league officials.

I have seen this snide comment posted a few times now as meant to denigrate Kevin Humphreys and by extension Steven Humphreys. You guys are either….young or senile with bad memories... because K Humphreys was just about the best administrator that BDRLFC and NSWRL ever had, leading them VERY professionally and successfully through some of the most difficult but ultimately prosperous times.

The "crime" that Kevin Humphreys supposedly committed that seems to have tarnished him with short sighted people was a loan to KH that was repaid IN FULL WITH INTEREST prior to any investigation. It was not illegal and probably happens in every corportation.

Research what John Quayle says about K Humphreys. Without K Humphreys there would not be State of Origin.

If Steven Humphreys ends up being as good as Kevin Humphreys, this club is in good hands.

Lets stop this snide defamation in its tracks.

I noticed this too. Comments like these are usually made by those who have no or little knowledge of history. I too hope Stephen is as good as his father in administration. As you say, we are in good hands if that is so.

Look around. With the exception of Todd Greenburg, who else has the business reputation, connections, smarts, to take us from fringe club to powerhouse.
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[innsaneink]

LOL….look at the mess the club is currently in...talk about blind devotion.

The ''clubs'' at the crossroads. It didnt get their on its own. :unamused: And as you said, hes at the helm

TBF you are not exactly objective in this matter either.

You clearly do not like Humphreys, and you judge every action with this in mind.

I like him, as do Glenb. Our "blind devotion" is no more subjective than your clear "hatred" to respond with similar hyperbole going.

Errr I often acknowledge the good he has brought to the club, the sponsors, the jerseys, the member numbers…a post not long ago says just that.....so dont call me un-objective.

My point which you IGNORe is as Glennb says, the clubs at the crossroads, someone got it there....it wasnt the ball boys

 

[mikey]

the apple never falls far from the tree especially amongst rugby league officials.

I have seen this snide comment posted a few times now as meant to denigrate Kevin Humphreys and by extension Steven Humphreys. You guys are either….young or senile with bad memories... because K Humphreys was just about the best administrator that BDRLFC and NSWRL ever had, leading them VERY professionally and successfully through some of the most difficult but ultimately prosperous times.

The "crime" that Kevin Humphreys supposedly committed that seems to have tarnished him with short sighted people was a loan to KH that was repaid IN FULL WITH INTEREST prior to any investigation. It was not illegal and probably happens in every corportation.

Research what John Quayle says about K Humphreys. Without K Humphreys there would not be State of Origin.

If Steven Humphreys ends up being as good as Kevin Humphreys, this club is in good hands.

Lets stop this snide defamation in its tracks.

There are too many here that have their own agenda to see what good people have done for this club. All they want ot see is faults because it doesn't suit them .

 

[mikey]

LOL….look at the mess the club is currently in...talk about blind devotion.

The ''clubs'' at the crossroads. It didnt get their on its own. :unamused: And as you said, hes at the helm

TBF you are not exactly objective in this matter either.

You clearly do not like Humphreys, and you judge every action with this in mind.

I like him, as do Glenb. Our "blind devotion" is no more subjective than your clear "hatred" to respond with similar hyperbole going.

Errr I often acknowledge the good he has brought to the club, the sponsors, the jerseys, the member numbers…a post not long ago says just that.....so dont call me un-objective.

My point which you IGNORe is as Glennb says, the clubs at the crossroads, someone got it there....it wasnt the ball boys

It also doesn't mean the people you always lambast got them there. The point which you always ignore is your own ego getting in the way of objective argument. You are always telling people they are wrong when they don't agree with your opinion but funnily enough not a lot of people agree with you.

 

[snowleopard]

Sorry agree with Ink on this subject but let me ask you this..of all the roles & responsibilities that Steven has which do you think is the most important in order of priority. The reason I ask this is that most if not all CEO have a list of Kpi's their performance is measured against and these kpi's are not equally rated.

 

[Swordy]

LOL….look at the mess the club is currently in...talk about blind devotion.

The ''clubs'' at the crossroads. It didnt get their on its own. And as you said, hes at the helm

TBF you are not exactly objective in this matter either.

You clearly do not like Humphreys, and you judge every action with this in mind.

I like him, as do Glenb. Our "blind devotion" is no more subjective than your clear "hatred" to respond with similar hyperbole going.
Errr I often acknowledge the good he has brought to the club, the sponsors, the jerseys, the member numbers...a post not long ago says just that.....so dont call me un-objective.

My point which you IGNORe is as Glennb says, the clubs at the crossroads, someone got it there....it wasnt the ball boys

I will back ink…. Just a little. He has credited SH in the past. I also agree the club needed a kick and the ball boys didn't get us there.

Where I do think it is harsh is to suggest SH led us there. He has been at the helm since mid 09, a mere three years. Many things were festering well before he arrived.

Perfect? No. But I don't think you can crucify him at this time. Some before him enjoy far better support and they aren't half the businessmen or sports administrators.
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[Glennb]

Sorry agree with Ink on this subject but let me ask you this..of all the roles & responsibilities that Steven has which do you think is the most important in order of priority. The reason I ask this is that most if not all CEO have a list of Kpi's their performance is measured against and these kpi's are not equally rated.

Very good point. First of all what very few acknowledge the Chief Executive Officers role is, at it's core, to _execute_ the directions of the board. Key decisions such as retaining/sacking/re-signing the coach are NOT his decisions but the boards.

To more directly answer your question, I think the key "KPI's (I hate that term) that as CEO he has to tick off would be sponsorship, marketing, membership and financials. I think he would leave football operations including retention/recruitment to the football department and in particular the coach as this is exactly as it should be and the CEO should not meddle in football operations (Scott Longmuir anyone?). In all of those areas I think he has performed really well.

TBH the ONLY area he has erred, again it may have been the boards decision, was possibly to have no re-signed Sheens last year or for a shorter term but that is now said with hindsight that I didnt have then.

 

[innsaneink]

LOL….look at the mess the club is currently in...talk about blind devotion.

The ''clubs'' at the crossroads. It didnt get their on its own. And as you said, hes at the helm

TBF you are not exactly objective in this matter either.

You clearly do not like Humphreys, and you judge every action with this in mind.

I like him, as do Glenb. Our "blind devotion" is no more subjective than your clear "hatred" to respond with similar hyperbole going.

Errr I often acknowledge the good he has brought to the club, the sponsors, the jerseys, the member numbers…a post not long ago says just that.....so dont call me un-objective.

My point which you IGNORe is as Glennb says, the clubs at the crossroads, someone got it there....it wasnt the ball boys

I will back ink…. Just a little. He has credited SH in the past. I also agree the club needed a kick and the ball boys didn't get us there.

Where I do think it is harsh is to suggest SH led us there. He has been at the helm since mid 09, a mere three years. Many things were festering well before he arrived.

Perfect? No. But I don't think you can crucify him at this time. Some before him enjoy far better support and they aren't half the businessmen or sports administrators.
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Its rarely one blokes fault, messes like this in any business or corporation, but wahddya do…like a footy team, do you sack 8 players.....or one coach.

The guy at the top is ultimately accountable for ALL stuff ups, wethere theyre his directly or not....he hired the bloke who stuffed up, or signed off on the guys idea who stuffed up....

 

[innsaneink]

It also doesn't mean the people you always lambast got them there.

See above

The point which you always ignore is your own ego getting in the way of objective argument.

Possibly, you may well be right, im far from perfect, but lets face it there are very very few level objective posters here - one, only one comes to my mind instantly.

You are always telling people they are wrong when they don't agree with your opinion…..... .

Always huh?
Sounds objective…..more like extreme exaggeration.

…...............but funnily enough not a lot of people agree with you

Yeh?
Look up a couple of posts….oops looks like you might be wr...wr....wro....wrong

Thanks for speaking on behalf of everyone

 

[snowleopard]

Sorry Glenb I don't actually see it that way. If the coach reported to the Board and the CEO wasn 't responsible for final discussions with player managers this probably would be the case. However, I believe that The coach reports to the CEO and the CEO signs off on the coaches appointment and all player contracts. From my experience it is the job of the CEO to make recommendations to the Board with respect to decisions for which they are responsible for. They are not just messengers for the Board. If this was not the case why would Steven & Tim have so many 'heated' discussions and why would players be saying Steven never finalised their contracts. Whilst the other jobs you mentioned like sponsorship, marketing , membership are no doubt important The key drivers for the success of an NRL club is what it does on the field. If the club doesn't perform on the field, people don' t become members , sponsors look elsewhere, etc etc As such, this will always be the key indicator of the CEO's performance. If you doubt this look no further than what started the chain of events that have recently occurred.. And continue today

 

[Goose]

LOL….look at the mess the club is currently in...talk about blind devotion.

The ''clubs'' at the crossroads. It didnt get their on its own. :unamused: And as you said, hes at the helm

TBF you are not exactly objective in this matter either.

You clearly do not like Humphreys, and you judge every action with this in mind.

I like him, as do Glenb. Our "blind devotion" is no more subjective than your clear "hatred" to respond with similar hyperbole going.

Errr I often acknowledge the good he has brought to the club, the sponsors, the jerseys, the member numbers…a post not long ago says just that.....so dont call me un-objective.

My point which you IGNORe is as Glennb says, the clubs at the crossroads, someone got it there....it wasnt the ball boys

if you dislike someone as much as you do Steve Humphries it has to effect your judgements of him.

you have a crack at Glenn b "blind devotion" yet think begrudgingly giving a bit of credit to someone means that your clear dislike for the bloke as evidenced in your mocking avatars doesn't influence your own opinions.

despite what you think you are clearly biased against him and take that into every judgements you make of him.

I like him and carry that bias into my judgements