Humpty on The Game Plan

@alex said:
Sheens admitted that the thing they have to look at is the club's depth. Well, who is responsible for structuring the Top 25? Who's responsible for ensuring we have enough coverage for rep games and injuries? Who is the person that allowed 3 props to go, yet sign none?

Who ever this person, or people, are, they are the ones who the club who be looking at if Sheens' reasons are taken seriously.

For mine, the whole coaching team needs to go. Sheens, McDonnell, Georgallis, even the trainers like Skando and Leeds. How many times did Moltzen go down in warm ups this year? They're obviously doing something wrong considering he went down I think 3 times?

Alex don't often disagree but Moltzen going down says more about Moltzen than it does Leeds

Maybe if we could transplant Leeds heart into Moltzen …...
 
@happy tiger said:
@alex said:
Sheens admitted that the thing they have to look at is the club's depth. Well, who is responsible for structuring the Top 25? Who's responsible for ensuring we have enough coverage for rep games and injuries? Who is the person that allowed 3 props to go, yet sign none?

Who ever this person, or people, are, they are the ones who the club who be looking at if Sheens' reasons are taken seriously.

For mine, the whole coaching team needs to go. Sheens, McDonnell, Georgallis, even the trainers like Skando and Leeds. How many times did Moltzen go down in warm ups this year? They're obviously doing something wrong considering he went down I think 3 times?

Alex don't often disagree but Moltzen going down says more about Moltzen than it does Leeds

Maybe if we could transplant Leeds heart into Moltzen …...

I definitely was clutching at straws haha, but we do have a fairly average track record of injury management. I admit it's gotten better in recent times though. Remember the days of "Player X will be out for 6 weeks"… 10 weeks later - "Player X due back in 2 more weeks". Then never seen again for the rest of the season?!
 
I cannot believe some of the comments made by Stephen Humphreys on the Game Plan.

I had many years experience in top-level management of some public companies, which were very successful companies. There is no way you let a business run for twelve months before you “undertake a review”. By the time you do this year’s review to see how you are going, you could well be bankrupt! All well-run companies do monthly reviews against budgets, so the management knows how things are progressing. Possible changes to the operation to address problems before they become huge can be made based on the on-going monthly results. Mr. Humphreys would be well aware of this!

In the last six years, the home-and-away crowd for all NRL games has increased by 4.2 per cent. In this period, the total home crowd for Wests Tigers has DROPPED by 4.5 per cent. The Wests Tigers home crowd has fallen 9.1 per cent from 17,852 to 16,227 for 2012 compared to 2011\. This drop in attendance means there is about $50,000 drop in revenue for each home game or $600,000 for the year.

When some poor refereeing decisions cost the Tigers some games late in the year, Mr. Humphreys said our failure to make the Finals would cost the Tigers $400,000 in bonuses from our sponsors. How many Clubs could cover the loss of $1,000,000 revenue for the season?

If Mr. Humphreys and Wests Tigers do not make major, successful changes for the 2013 season, the Tigers will be in a downward, financial spiral, which may take some years to turn-around.
 
Good post MM…..while Ive no business experience, a simple mug even like me could see just by our last crowd, the enormous dissatisfaction with members not renewing - the fact they had to bring the finals memberships drive forward, the lack of bonuses....would be very very costly, add to that reports of us paying overs for new recruits, it becomes clear we are heading south very suddenly
 
@MightyMaggy said:
I cannot believe some of the comments made by Stephen Humphreys on the Game Plan.

I had many years experience in top-level management of some public companies, which were very successful companies. There is no way you let a business run for twelve months before you “undertake a review”. By the time you do this year’s review to see how you are going, you could well be bankrupt! All well-run companies do monthly reviews against budgets, so the management knows how things are progressing. Possible changes to the operation to address problems before they become huge can be made based on the on-going monthly results. Mr. Humphreys would be well aware of this!

In the last six years, the home-and-away crowd for all NRL games has increased by 4.2 per cent. In this period, the total home crowd for Wests Tigers has DROPPED by 4.5 per cent. The Wests Tigers home crowd has fallen 9.1 per cent from 17,852 to 16,227 for 2012 compared to 2011\. This drop in attendance means there is about $50,000 drop in revenue for each home game or $600,000 for the year.

When some poor refereeing decisions cost the Tigers some games late in the year, Mr. Humphreys said our failure to make the Finals would cost the Tigers $400,000 in bonuses from our sponsors. How many Clubs could cover the loss of $1,000,000 revenue for the season?

If Mr. Humphreys and Wests Tigers do not make major, successful changes for the 2013 season, the Tigers will be in a downward, financial spiral, which may take some years to turn-around.

Any bet our sugar daddy splits when we hit the skids.
 
@MightyMaggy said:
I cannot believe some of the comments made by Stephen Humphreys on the Game Plan.

I had many years experience in top-level management of some public companies, which were very successful companies. There is no way you let a business run for twelve months before you “undertake a review”. By the time you do this year’s review to see how you are going, you could well be bankrupt! All well-run companies do monthly reviews against budgets, so the management knows how things are progressing. Possible changes to the operation to address problems before they become huge can be made based on the on-going monthly results. Mr. Humphreys would be well aware of this!

In the last six years, the home-and-away crowd for all NRL games has increased by 4.2 per cent. In this period, the total home crowd for Wests Tigers has DROPPED by 4.5 per cent. The Wests Tigers home crowd has fallen 9.1 per cent from 17,852 to 16,227 for 2012 compared to 2011\. This drop in attendance means there is about $50,000 drop in revenue for each home game or $600,000 for the year.

When some poor refereeing decisions cost the Tigers some games late in the year, Mr. Humphreys said our failure to make the Finals would cost the Tigers $400,000 in bonuses from our sponsors. How many Clubs could cover the loss of $1,000,000 revenue for the season?

If Mr. Humphreys and Wests Tigers do not make major, successful changes for the 2013 season, the Tigers will be in a downward, financial spiral, which may take some years to turn-around.

When someone with little experience of running a business like me can see cracks appearing, how come the boss can't. I think it comes down to everyone being comfortable. Players, coach and CEO can move on, we are left with picking up the pieces. I think our club should have every contract fitted with conditions in our favor or you don't come on board. No one is bigger than the club. No club survives without punters like us. Overhaul for the long haul .
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@hybrid_tiger said:
@tiger4ever said:
seriously do you guys ever stop whining….what you expect him to say....phil goulds talking panthers up even after another terrible season...

Sheens is staying...build a bridge

I be called a troll now...i dared to disagree with the always negative opinions

You can't honestly dead set swallow that crap about rearranging the gym, surely? That was an embarrassing comment.

I don't ever expect the CEO to come out and throw his coach under the bus, I'm realistic. But how hard is it to say "we weren't good enough, we didn't meet expectations, everybody is on notice, we must strive for better" etc. etc.

Instead we get Humphreys feeding us crap about moving the gym equipment. We get Beau Ryan asking where the fans were at Leichhardt against Melbourne, then running off all the excuses in the world when asked about our season (including Robbie's mum, which I found deplorable).

**How hard would it have been to say "WE WEREN'T GOOD ENOUGH!" Not it was a tough year, this happened, that happened. The problem is that these blokes are deluded. Take some responsibility, FFS**.

Absolutely. The biggest worry about this club for me is that you never see any passion from anyone- they are all just zombies who trot out the same performances and excuses every single week (coach and management included).
I can't remember the last time I saw one of our players yelling his guts out on the field, driving his teammates to a better effort or more commitment. I clearly remember Prince doing this often in '05- we need stronger leaders to get this club where it should be.

Just a sign of the world we live in today- no one can speak their mind without being shot down from some quarters
 
@MightyMaggy said:
I cannot believe some of the comments made by Stephen Humphreys on the Game Plan.

I had many years experience in top-level management of some public companies, which were very successful companies. There is no way you let a business run for twelve months before you “undertake a review”. By the time you do this year’s review to see how you are going, you could well be bankrupt! All well-run companies do monthly reviews against budgets, so the management knows how things are progressing. Possible changes to the operation to address problems before they become huge can be made based on the on-going monthly results. Mr. Humphreys would be well aware of this!

In the last six years, the home-and-away crowd for all NRL games has increased by 4.2 per cent. In this period, the total home crowd for Wests Tigers has DROPPED by 4.5 per cent. The Wests Tigers home crowd has fallen 9.1 per cent from 17,852 to 16,227 for 2012 compared to 2011\. This drop in attendance means there is about $50,000 drop in revenue for each home game or $600,000 for the year.

Very well put together, they were probably counting there chickens before they hatched , half way in the year when we went on that run of wins that we would make the semi's and everything would be rossy and get the extra revenue and ticket sales etc. would look after itself . How wrong they were now it's desperate times .
If tigers fans don't see a change in the offseason with coaching staff , season tickets will be low , i fear tough times ahead , hope i'm wrong.

When some poor refereeing decisions cost the Tigers some games late in the year, Mr. Humphreys said our failure to make the Finals would cost the Tigers $400,000 in bonuses from our sponsors. How many Clubs could cover the loss of $1,000,000 revenue for the season?

If Mr. Humphreys and Wests Tigers do not make major, successful changes for the 2013 season, the Tigers will be in a downward, financial spiral, which may take some years to turn-around.
 
@cunno said:
@innsaneink said:
@cunno said:
Actually went to have a look at the gym when members day was held at Concord after an announcement was made to feel free to look at the facilities. I was hunted away before getting anywhere near it and was told the gym was not included so I took my time to have a thorough look at the stands and the grass on the oval! Glad I didn't get to see it after all as it would have changed now!!

They didnt want you spotting the bar fridges, lounges, recliners, bean bags, 80" plasmas/PS3s & X-Boxes

Ha! Ha! **all I wanted to do was have a look at Sheensy's man cave**, instead got hunted away by an amazon.

Crikey! Didn't know Tim went to Thailand in the off-season and had "that" operation! :astonished:
 
Bump

Thought this thread might turn interesting should Sheens jump a plane to NZ in the next couple of days
 
@Tiger Watto said:
Humpty is smarter than all of those monkeys… He can spin it pretty good, and won't be fazed by anything Blocker throws up.

Surprised he is going on the show considering our Season Review wouldn't even be close to being completed... I wonder why he is doing it???

Not monkeys but muppets.Hes going on this show because he knows the dumbest bloke to ever play for his beloved balmain will be asking the questions that humphries wrote for him.Good blocky now ask me this question.Then ask me this question.You should look half decent when you're the one writing the questions.
 
@tiger4ever said:
Yeah every year with you is the same…..jump up and down...when do you ever compliment anything they do.

I have never come out and said sheens should be fired...But if we dont make it next year i believe the club will let him go...doesnt matter what any supporter thinks

We are talking about getting rid of sheens who is 3 years past his use by date.You are just having a go at ink because of this somehow he is wrong.Agenda much.Leave the bloke alone and if you dont have something that will help the Wests tigers dont contribute with your obvious hatred of ink.Your swimming against the tide big time on this one but as the seweridge runs down the river your there willing to take it all on defending it with your I hate ink personal vendetta when the club you pretend to love is dying in the ass.Get out of the way with your seven year old antics so we can constructively work out ways to get on with fixing this club.
 
@Karma Tiger said:
@tiger4ever said:
Yeah every year with you is the same…..jump up and down...when do you ever compliment anything they do.

I have never come out and said sheens should be fired...But if we dont make it next year i believe the club will let him go...doesnt matter what any supporter thinks

We are talking about getting rid of sheens who is 3 years past his use by date.You are just having a go at ink because of this somehow he is wrong.Agenda much.Leave the bloke alone and if you dont have something that will help the Wests tigers dont contribute with your obvious hatred of ink.Your swimming against the tide big time on this one but as the seweridge runs down the river your there willing to take it all on defending it with your I hate ink personal vendetta when the club you pretend to love is dying in the ass.Get out of the way with your seven year old antics so we can constructively work out ways to get on with fixing this club.

Tiger4Ever - I'm with you 100% - may I reccomend that you place Ink on your ignore list - I did this 3 weeks ago and I have sicne realised that I haven't missed one thing that was either interesting or constructive. This way it allows Ink to continue his vendetta driven rants which he is totally entitled to do and allows you to have a much more pleasent forum experince.
 
@tiger4ever said:
seriously do you guys ever stop whining….what you expect him to say....phil goulds talking panthers up even after another terrible season...

**Sheens is staying...build a bridge**

I be called a troll now...i dared to disagree with the always negative opinions

Well said!!!

:roll
 

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