I Will Finally Call It!

[one-eyed-tiger]

Agree GNR. That is the most likely lineup for Round 1\. Then it's a case of those blokes defending their selections ahead of very stiff competition from others.

Looking forward to seeing Chisholm, Grant and Humble develop over the year. They could be genuine gamebreakers down the stretch (if not 2012, then in years to come). The future is bright. Well done Sheens, Humpty and team for smart recruitment.
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[Guest]

Tedessco is still a boy in terms of physical development, unlike others say, I dont always think that being good enough means your old enough. We dont want to ruin him. IMO (like just about anyone that has seen much of him) he is a class act who looks like an excellent NRL playing in the making, but I dont think his body is ready for NRL just yet, give him a fully year in NYC

We have adequate options at full back we dont need to rush him.

I actually think Benji Marshalls early injuries were related to being asked to do more than his body was ready for, cause he was so talented

He's also developing very well physically. For a kid his age and weight he's very strong and pound for pound would be one of the strongest at the Tigers. He may not get a run in FG for the first half of the season, but if he continues to develop well, I won't be surprised if he's playing FG in the second half of the season like Groat did.

 

[Guest]

Lets use a process of elimination.

Lets start with Fullback

Mitch Brown: I know there are a lot of Mitch Brown fans (including me) but Sheens showed last yr that he doesn't see him in the strongest 17\. So IMO you can rule him out

John Grant: No way will he start the yr at fullback

Tedseco: As others have said, still too young and Sheens would be unlikely to rush him

Humble: Bit of an unknown

Reddy: Possibly, however i've heard theres a chance Sheens will play him in the back-row. Bench utility is where id like to see him. Would save us from having to use a winger

Moltzen: The most likely IMO. The way he finished the yr last yr, im not sure why there is even talk of him playing anywhere else

which takes to halfbacks

Humble: Like i said an unknown. I know he had big wraps at Parra

Chisholm: Don't know too much about him, but a few people on here seem to think he has ability so we'll have to wait and see i guess

Miller: The man for the job IMO. Good kicking game and organzier. Having Marshall and Farah alongside him would allow him not to have to be the main man from the get go.

So Moltzen at 1 and Miller at 7 for me

That's probably how it will turn out but I won't be surprised if Chisholm gets a run and I believe Tedesco and Grant will also play FG this season, given the liklihood of injuries and depth being tested at the club.

 

[black_and_white_tige]

Will be very interesting to see who is in the side is come the second half of the season.

Tedesco could step up and start getting some game time,
Grant could make a successful transition to league and forces his way into the side,
Reddy could also force his way into the starting side.
The back line could have a totally different look to what were expecting.

The second half of the season is shaping up to be just as interesting as the start if these guys do live up to expectations.

 

[cunno]

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You are confident that Sheens will select Tedesco sooner rather than later Black & White. Tedesco played well last year and has the makings of a top prospect but wouldn't it be useful to work on his defence first? I agree with you in that if Sheens picks him early then he must be confident that Ted can aim up. The other thing to consider about a coach who has the experience of Sheens is that one of the things that would provide him with a lot of job satisfaction would be to ID a talent, bring them through when believed ready and develop them into a top player this could also be a reason if the young bloke comes through early. Fullback is a very important position as we know and to develop a top one would be a major achievement imo for a coach like Sheens. Obviously Tedesco is a winner as well if it comes off.

Tedesco has come through the pack and is now only a few seconds away from being the fittest at the club. But that doesn't make him ready for first grade.
Sheens likes to reward the ones that put the work in at training that's why Beau Ryan will be 1st choice winger. I think Sheens will give Tedesco a run in the first trial game but anything more than that would be a big gamble.

I think your right as a coach who has done everything Sheens gets most satisfaction from finding a talent and developing them. He dreams back to his Canberra days and hopes of being labelled the guy who found the next superstar.

Moltzen finished the season well and he should be the number 1 especially against St. George in round 3.

I'll be keen to see how he goes when he gets his chance at NRL, and hope he does well then builds from there as a player regardless of the grade.

 

[cunno]

Lets use a process of elimination.

Lets start with Fullback

Mitch Brown: I know there are a lot of Mitch Brown fans (including me) but Sheens showed last yr that he doesn't see him in the strongest 17\. So IMO you can rule him out

John Grant: No way will he start the yr at fullback

Tedseco: As others have said, still too young and Sheens would be unlikely to rush him

Humble: Bit of an unknown

Reddy: Possibly, however i've heard theres a chance Sheens will play him in the back-row. Bench utility is where id like to see him. Would save us from having to use a winger

Moltzen: The most likely IMO. The way he finished the yr last yr, im not sure why there is even talk of him playing anywhere else

which takes to halfbacks

Humble: Like i said an unknown. I know he had big wraps at Parra

Chisholm: Don't know too much about him, but a few people on here seem to think he has ability so we'll have to wait and see i guess

Miller: The man for the job IMO. Good kicking game and organzier. Having Marshall and Farah alongside him would allow him not to have to be the main man from the get go.

So Moltzen at 1 and Miller at 7 for me

Well put GNR although if Miller is picked at half first up I hope he steps up and plays better than he finished last season otherwise he will cruel an opportunity and more. If Miller doesn't get half first up then that will make it very interesting as to who Sheens moves there, it wouldn't surprise me if it is Moltzen in that scenario and perhaps Reddy at fullback.

 

[westTAHger]

Who-ever is picked at half back, give them a chance, before calling for them to be punted from the starting 17.
nothing would please us all more than to see Miller have an good solid season, and take pressure off benji & Robbie in guiding team around the park.

only time will tell on this.

 

[smoking_gun]

Tedesco would want to absolutely carve up the trials to get the 1 jersey, talented no doubt but is it his time yet?? 12 months I think

 

[Yossarian]

Tedesco would want to absolutely carve up the trials to get the 1 jersey, talented no doubt but is it his time yet?? 12 months I think

That's a fair comment. I think the trials and pre-season form will be more important than previous years in sorting out the pecking order. Plenty to play for

 

[happy_tiger]

Tedesco would want to absolutely carve up the trials to get the 1 jersey, talented no doubt but is it his time yet?? 12 months I think

So does that explain why we haven't offered Moltzen a contract beyond 2012 ??

 

[Guest]

Tedesco would want to absolutely carve up the trials to get the 1 jersey, talented no doubt but is it his time yet?? 12 months I think

So does that explain why we haven't offered Moltzen a contract beyond 2012 ??

Well there's no rush to re-sign Moltzen from how I look at it Happy. Moltzen certainly finished 2011 in good form, but young Tedesco is certainly training well, he's very strong and still growing, and he has all the right skills to make a top quality fullback. Granted, his age will probably hold him back somewhat, but I've said it before and I'll say it again, I won't be surprised if he gets a run in FG this season. Probably not straight away, but if injuries or form slumps strike, he could get a run in the second half of the season if he's playing to potential.

As for Moltzen, I think a lot depends on where Sheens plays him. I just hope he is used in the one position and get left there. Shuffling him around last season didn't help, and it wasn't until he was left at fullback and told to piull his finger out that we saw him gain some confidence and have a go. I see no reason to move him from fullback given how he finished last season, but with Lui departing, it does raise questions as to who will play half, with any one of four players in the running for the 7 jersey.

 

[happy_tiger]

See your point Willow but shouldn't clubs be trying to sign players before the TV deals come through and save themselves some dough

Thats my thinking anyway

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Given the way Moltzen treated the Dragons, i don't think many clubs will be lining up for his signature. The Tigers have all the time they want to sort out a deal with him

 

[Blackandwhite]

See your point Willow but shouldn't clubs be trying to sign players before the TV deals come through and save themselves some dough

Thats my thinking anyway

The top notch player managers would have the foresight to implement clauses to cover all possibilities including a cap rise as a result of a new TV deal.

 

[happy_tiger]

See your point Willow but shouldn't clubs be trying to sign players before the TV deals come through and save themselves some dough

Thats my thinking anyway

The top notch player managers would have the foresight to implement clauses to cover all possibilities including a cap rise as a result of a new TV deal.

Yeah but even if you can someone on the cheap for one season or upgrade the following season it can be the difference in being able to keep the squad together and keep it strong for the future or losing key players

Honestly balancing the cap and keeping a strong squad at the same time would be a bloody nightmare .

 

[Eddie]

I disagree Sheens has to make the GF. The last 2 seasons the experienced players lost us finals games in the last 5 minutes, simple as that. Nothing to do with Sheens coaching. Small details knocked us out. We have dominated almost all 5 of the finals we have played in the last 2 years. Benji kicked out on the full against the Dragons in 2010 PF which led to the field goal. Last year Farah failed to kick which led to the Warriors try. Those blokes do there job there and we have made the last 2 GF's.

I had big problems with Sheens from 2007 to 2009 when we seemed to have lost direction and ambition. Since then our recruitment and our excellent retention has suggested we have raised our ambition.

We have won 40 out of our last 63 games. Thats up near 65% win ratio over a 2 and a half year period. This is the sort of consistency we have been crying out for for years. If we jag another comp, fantastic, alot of luck is involved in the finals where one slip can prove your downfall. Sheens coaching will never lose us a finals game. Our experienced players let it slip the last 2 years.

Bottom line is Sheens just needs to keep guiding us to Top 4 finishes. Thats a finish that the roster needs to deliver year in year out with the talent currently on the books. We are the only club in the competition to have achieved that the last 2 years. It's no mean feat. Id argue we are the most relevant and dominant club in Sydney along with St George. We are finally becoming that consistent powerhouse.

Anyway, ive been a critic in the past, but i think he is as safe in the job as any coach in the league at the moment and rightly so. Keep finishing in the Top 4 and he can stay for another 10 years as far as i'm concerned.

 

[Frazer4Wests]

i totally agree eddie.

Sheens is the sole reason we compete very week,winning most weeks.

 

[tigersrule4life]

Go timmy sheens i cant see him leaveing just yet he still has a primership to win with the tigers.

 

[tigerlogic]

Perfectly said Eddie god on ya! I fully agree
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