I Will Finally Call It!

[cunno]

I think we are Gf bound this year, real strong squad some may say we lack a prop but Blair will fill that role nicely. He will start in the back row then move to prop allowing for a very flexible bench without compromising size or mobility. Depending on what happens @ 7 whether it be moltzen or chisolm I think we have a good fullbacks in the wings if molts goes to half.

Sheens will be here no matter what happens next year, unless u are in the inner sanctum u will never know the impact and influence he has on this organization

Your point about Sheens' influence was evident by what happened to the previous CEO who tried to put KPIs in place and didn't last long, not that I agree KPIs and I'm sure there would have been more to it, that's just the issue that was made public as I recall it.

 

[supercoach]

I think we are Gf bound this year, real strong squad some may say we lack a prop but Blair will fill that role nicely. He will start in the back row then move to prop allowing for a very flexible bench without compromising size or mobility. Depending on what happens @ 7 whether it be moltzen or chisolm I think we have a good fullbacks in the wings if molts goes to half.

Sheens will be here no matter what happens next year, unless u are in the inner sanctum u will never know the impact and influence he has on this organization

So smoking gun, you are telling us the no7 is Moltzen or Chisolm. Iam not doubting you but I would have thought Moltzen was a shoe in for the no1 and Miller would get first crack at the no7\. Will be interesting how it pans out, your info is seldom wrong and young Chisolm has plenty of raps on him. IMO Moltzen is a no1 and not a 7 and it would be a back flip for Sheens to play him in the no7 role.

 

[Joel Helmes]

I think we are Gf bound this year, real strong squad some may say we lack a prop but Blair will fill that role nicely. He will start in the back row then move to prop allowing for a very flexible bench without compromising size or mobility. Depending on what happens @ 7 whether it be moltzen or chisolm I think we have a good fullbacks in the wings if molts goes to half.

Sheens will be here no matter what happens next year, unless u are in the inner sanctum u will never know the impact and influence he has on this organization

So smoking gun, you are telling us the no7 is Moltzen or Chisolm. Iam not doubting you but I would have thought Moltzen was a shoe in for the no1 and Miller would get first crack at the no7\. Will be interesting how it pans out, your info is seldom wrong and young Chisolm has plenty of raps on him. IMO Moltzen is a no1 and not a 7 and it would be a back flip for Sheens to play him in the no7 role.

I think Moltzen at seven is our only real option - it's done and dusted as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

I don't care where Moltzen plays, as long as he isn't moved around. If he starts the season at #1 or #7, he should stay there. No jostling him about as that contributed to his slow start last year. He didn't know whether he was Arthur or Martha.

 

[cktiger]

I don't care where Moltzen plays, as long as he isn't moved around. If he starts the season at #1 or #7, he should stay there. No jostling him about as that contributed to his slow start last year. He didn't know whether he was Arthur or Martha.

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[Yossarian]

I don't care where Moltzen plays, as long as he isn't moved around. If he starts the season at #1 or #7, he should stay there. No jostling him about as that contributed to his slow start last year. He didn't know whether he was Arthur or Martha.

Wrong thread… Oh sorry I thought you said Arthur or Macarthur...

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

I don't care where Moltzen plays, as long as he isn't moved around. If he starts the season at #1 or #7, he should stay there. No jostling him about as that contributed to his slow start last year. He didn't know whether he was Arthur or Martha.

Wrong thread… Oh sorry I thought you said Arthur or Macarthur...

Quality Yoss… Pure quality :smiley:

 

[stryker]

Motlz will be 7 to accomodate Reddy within the top 13\. He is a seasoned first grader and sheens will find a starting spot for him….I think it'll be at the back.

 

[Tiger_Watto]

Sheens hasnt swayed for 3 years with Moltzen at Fullback… Yes he entertained McKinnon due to his natural ability as a 1 while Moltz was working his way back into 2011, but the bloke is as stubborn as an Ox, and I cant see him moving Moltzen for Round 1.

 

[Joel Helmes]

Sheens hasnt swayed for 3 years with Moltzen at Fullback… Yes he entertained McKinnon due to his natural ability as a 1 while Moltz was working his way back into 2011, but the bloke is as stubborn as an Ox, and I cant see him moving Moltzen for Round 1.

Do you think he has a choice? Personally I cant see it - Humble, Chisolm and Miller are all unproven at 7 in NRL…

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Sheens hasnt swayed for 3 years with Moltzen at Fullback… Yes he entertained McKinnon due to his natural ability as a 1 while Moltz was working his way back into 2011, but the bloke is as stubborn as an Ox, and I cant see him moving Moltzen for Round 1.

Do you think he has a choice? Personally I cant see it - Humble, Chisolm and Miller are all unproven at 7 in NRL…

And Moltzen is? the guy has no kicking or passing game, and has zero organizational skills. After the way he played at 1 at the back end of last yr i don't know why anyone would think he should be anywhere else. Id go Miller at 7, Moltzen at 1 with Reddy on the bench as a utility. With Reddy on the bench, we wouldn't have to carry a winger who only plays the final 5 mins.

What happened to everyone who was pushing Jacob Miller last season when Lui was struggling? has everyone gone gun shy with the kid?

I agree with Watto. Love or hate him, you can't deny the fact Sheens is very stubborn and maybe a little pig-headed. Once he pigeonholes a player, he very rarely goes back on it

 

[innsaneink]

Sheens hasnt swayed for 3 years with Moltzen at Fullback… Yes he entertained McKinnon due to his natural ability as a 1 while Moltz was working his way back into 2011, but the bloke is as stubborn as an Ox, and I cant see him moving Moltzen for Round 1.

Yes….he's very persistent and consistent....Moltz will be #1

 

[GNR4LIFE]

One thing i don't understand is that whenever Sheens head gets called for (which hasn't happened a lot lately) other people counter that by comparing how things were before Sheens got here, and argue that they don't want things to be like that ever again. Yes this place was a basket case, but that feels like a lifetime ago now. To think this place will ever become a basket case again if Sheens ever leaves is rediculous. There will come a time when he will leave, and when that day comes, i'm sure the club will be in good shape

 

[Joel Helmes]

Sheens hasnt swayed for 3 years with Moltzen at Fullback… Yes he entertained McKinnon due to his natural ability as a 1 while Moltz was working his way back into 2011, but the bloke is as stubborn as an Ox, and I cant see him moving Moltzen for Round 1.

Yes….he's very persistent and consistent....Moltz will be #1

Well we'll see.

And for everyone who says Sheens doesn't change his strategies - what about the strategy of not rushing a talented youngster?

Miller has heaps of talent but he is not ready for the grind of NRL.

What about the decisions to move Farah to half-back, or Marshall to half-back, he changed his mind on those.

Again I put it to you that there is no other option at half than Moltzen - we have heaps of options at fullback headed by Reddy, Brown, Humble, and even Ryan or maybe Grant.

 

[supercoach]

Like Watto and others I just dont think Moltzen is a standout no7\. He might be adequate but with a poor kicking game, no real ability to direct play and a selfish passing game I cant see him doing the job in 2012

 

[Tigersmurf]

Sheens hasnt swayed for 3 years with Moltzen at Fullback… Yes he entertained McKinnon due to his natural ability as a 1 while Moltz was working his way back into 2011, but the bloke is as stubborn as an Ox, and I cant see him moving Moltzen for Round 1.

Yes….he's very persistent and consistent....Moltz will be #1

Well we'll see.

And for everyone who says Sheens doesn't change his strategies - what about the strategy of not rushing a talented youngster?

Miller has heaps of talent but he is not ready for the grind of NRL.

What about the decisions to move Farah to half-back, or Marshall to half-back, he changed his mind on those.

Again I put it to you that there is no other option at half than Moltzen - we have heaps of options at fullback headed by Reddy, Brown, Humble, and even Ryan or maybe Grant.

Disagree with the half options. I do consider Moltz a more than capable halfback. He can take a lot of pressure off Benji and does have a long kicking game. He has never had to develop his kicking game because he has changed positions so much. I would prefer he got first shot.

In terms of other options, we have Miller, Humble and Chisolm which are a lot more options then we have had in the past. I am looking forward to seeing them all get a go in the trials.

 

[Guest]

Sheens hasnt swayed for 3 years with Moltzen at Fullback… Yes he entertained McKinnon due to his natural ability as a 1 while Moltz was working his way back into 2011, but the bloke is as stubborn as an Ox, and I cant see him moving Moltzen for Round 1.

Yes….he's very persistent and consistent....Moltz will be #1

Well we'll see.

And for everyone who says Sheens doesn't change his strategies - what about the strategy of not rushing a talented youngster?

Miller has heaps of talent but he is not ready for the grind of NRL.

What about the decisions to move Farah to half-back, or Marshall to half-back, he changed his mind on those.

Again I put it to you that there is no other option at half than Moltzen - we have heaps of options at fullback headed by Reddy, Brown, Humble, and even Ryan or maybe Grant.

Miller, Chisholm and Humble are all very much in the running for the 7 jersey.

 

[Flippedy]

Stating the obvious, I guess we'll all just have to wait and see who plays best with who during the trials, then we will have our team. Personally, I'm hoping Sheens leaves Moltzen at fullback for now and tries both Miller and Chisholm out at half. Chisholm's experience may give him the edge here, but who knows. One thing for sure, with the likes of Grant, Reddy, Humble and Brown all waiting in the wings, whoever is first chosen at fullback and half will not be able to rest on their laurels for too long - a very healthy situation indeed :slight_smile:

 

[smoking_gun]

I think we are Gf bound this year, real strong squad some may say we lack a prop but Blair will fill that role nicely. He will start in the back row then move to prop allowing for a very flexible bench without compromising size or mobility. Depending on what happens @ 7 whether it be moltzen or chisolm I think we have a good fullbacks in the wings if molts goes to half.

Sheens will be here no matter what happens next year, unless u are in the inner sanctum u will never know the impact and influence he has on this organization

So smoking gun, you are telling us the no7 is Moltzen or Chisolm. Iam not doubting you but I would have thought Moltzen was a shoe in for the no1 and Miller would get first crack at the no7\. Will be interesting how it pans out, your info is seldom wrong and young Chisolm has plenty of raps on him. IMO Moltzen is a no1 and not a 7 and it would be a back flip for Sheens to play him in the no7 role.

Miller chisolm and moltz are going to be given their chance but if word is right around here, chisolm is favored leading into the trials

 

[happy_tiger]

Well the way Moltzen finished the season at fullback (and I was one of his harshest critics ) he should be given the No 1 jersey

Which leaves us with Miller and Chisholm as the 2 main contenders

We may not choose the best player for the position but the player that fits in best with Benji and Robbie and the balance of the side

Chisholm defence seems much sturdier than both either Miller or Lui but Miller would appear to have the better kicking game and slightly better running game

So what is more important to the 2012 Tigers

A kicking game or defence ??

Personally I think we are the best side in the comp with a competent kicking game