Injuries and treatment
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Cosimo_Zaretti
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Aka "I can't believe it's not doping".
Got this explanation from an American sports clinic that specialises in it. Explains why it's still technically legal.
The Difference between PRP Therapy and Blood Doping
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True blood doping occurs when an athlete has some of his blood removed, waits for a period of time so that his body will restore that lost blood and then injecting the drawn blood back into his body.
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The benefit is a boost in oxygen-rich blood. Blood doping is illegal.
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PRP therapy, on the other hand, occurs within the time it takes a doctor to draw blood, spin down that blood in a centrifuge so the growth factors and the platelets are concentrated into a serum and then injecting that serum back into the injured area of the athlete’s body.
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And not only is this treatment completely legal but PRP therapy is one of the best ways to heal sports injuries without resorting to traditional methods like cortisone injections and surgery and the side-effects and long-term recovery periods these treatments demand.
http://uscenterforsportsmedicine.com/is-platelet-rich-plasma-therapy-blood-doping/
So from my layman's understanding it's a legal way to concentrate your own growth hormone without injecting any foreign substances.
Got this explanation from an American sports clinic that specialises in it. Explains why it's still technically legal.
The Difference between PRP Therapy and Blood Doping
>
True blood doping occurs when an athlete has some of his blood removed, waits for a period of time so that his body will restore that lost blood and then injecting the drawn blood back into his body.
>
The benefit is a boost in oxygen-rich blood. Blood doping is illegal.
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PRP therapy, on the other hand, occurs within the time it takes a doctor to draw blood, spin down that blood in a centrifuge so the growth factors and the platelets are concentrated into a serum and then injecting that serum back into the injured area of the athlete’s body.
>
And not only is this treatment completely legal but PRP therapy is one of the best ways to heal sports injuries without resorting to traditional methods like cortisone injections and surgery and the side-effects and long-term recovery periods these treatments demand.
http://uscenterforsportsmedicine.com/is-platelet-rich-plasma-therapy-blood-doping/
So from my layman's understanding it's a legal way to concentrate your own growth hormone without injecting any foreign substances.
innsaneink
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…and people scoff when its mentioned we are years behind others clubs.
Cosimo_Zaretti
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@innsaneink said:
The whole league is years behind in medical technology. The fiasco with concussions is a case in point. If someone has a series of knockouts, as Liam Fulton did this year, we have to fly them to Melbourne to be assessed by the top brain injury experts. Who was assessing him up to that point? Why is the top head injury doc not already on the NRL's payroll?
League players play full contact with no helmets, and they get a proper 10 metre run up to smash each other, unlike that other private school code. Combat sports aside, There is no better group of athletes in the world to be assessing in terms of the effects of head injuries, but somehow brain injury research and treatment has existed almost in isolation from Rugby League for over a century.
Tim Sheens
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@innsaneink said:
I have no idea whether or not various forms of accelerated healing are good for a patient, but I like the dressing room shot after a great backs to the wall win.
Let us hope that the three players missing from that photo get their treatment and come back better than ever.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/nrl/robbie-farahs-radical-route-to-origin-recovery/story-fnca0von-1226929314897?nk=fdab6851b6e105e02f8ce5f914e2e4ef
THE doctor who oversaw Robbie Farah’s return from a dislocated elbow has revealed the NSW rake underwent the same radical procedure that was used to treat the career-threatening knee injuries of basketballer Kobe Bryant and golfer Tiger Woods.
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**On his return, the Wests Tigers captain spoke about undergoing experimental treatment. It was thought that procedure was a process called PRP — platelet-rich plasma — therapy, which has been commonly used in the NRL in recent years.\
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However, The Weekend Australian can reveal the treatment was in fact called orthokine, a variation on PRP therapy which has been used by some of the world’s sporting superstars.\
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Chief among them is Bryant, who flew to Germany late last year to undergo treatment on his degenerative knee by the doctor who created the process, Peter Wehling, a spinal surgeon from Dusseldorf. The procedure has also been used on Australian basketballer Andrew Bogut, several AFL players as well as the late pope John Paul II, who used it to treat his arthritis.**
THE doctor who oversaw Robbie Farah’s return from a dislocated elbow has revealed the NSW rake underwent the same radical procedure that was used to treat the career-threatening knee injuries of basketballer Kobe Bryant and golfer Tiger Woods.
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**On his return, the Wests Tigers captain spoke about undergoing experimental treatment. It was thought that procedure was a process called PRP — platelet-rich plasma — therapy, which has been commonly used in the NRL in recent years.\
\
However, The Weekend Australian can reveal the treatment was in fact called orthokine, a variation on PRP therapy which has been used by some of the world’s sporting superstars.\
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Chief among them is Bryant, who flew to Germany late last year to undergo treatment on his degenerative knee by the doctor who created the process, Peter Wehling, a spinal surgeon from Dusseldorf. The procedure has also been used on Australian basketballer Andrew Bogut, several AFL players as well as the late pope John Paul II, who used it to treat his arthritis.**
Cosimo_Zaretti
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So I'd honestly never heard of PRP until this thread. Googling imaging has brought up mostly links to cosmetic treatments, apparently people pay to have their own blood centrifuged and injected back into their ageing faces. First world problems and all.
So here's my next question. If it's currently legal for athletes to use PRP to rehab an injury, is it also effective or legal to use PRP to speed recovery time after a workout? I'm thinking you could do some targeted gym work on particular muscles, burn them hard then inject your own concentrated platelets into the traumatised tissue to train again sooner.
So here's my next question. If it's currently legal for athletes to use PRP to rehab an injury, is it also effective or legal to use PRP to speed recovery time after a workout? I'm thinking you could do some targeted gym work on particular muscles, burn them hard then inject your own concentrated platelets into the traumatised tissue to train again sooner.
Remember when Manly were injecting calves blood back around 2008/2009?
Turns out its illegal to inject direct into muscles, but not if you just inject to the body elsewhere. Seems its a tangled web of technicalities really.
Also remember Payten underwent stem cell therapy in 2011 in a bid to prolong his career.
Matty Bowen once (or maybe twice) had his own cartilage removed from his knee, grown in a lab in Perth and then placed back in his knee.
Some wondrous treatments out there if you have the cash, which most clubs will if a top line player needs it. Take Tedesco for us, hard to imagine we will skimp on treatment for a guy like him who we just re-signed.
Turns out its illegal to inject direct into muscles, but not if you just inject to the body elsewhere. Seems its a tangled web of technicalities really.
Also remember Payten underwent stem cell therapy in 2011 in a bid to prolong his career.
Matty Bowen once (or maybe twice) had his own cartilage removed from his knee, grown in a lab in Perth and then placed back in his knee.
Some wondrous treatments out there if you have the cash, which most clubs will if a top line player needs it. Take Tedesco for us, hard to imagine we will skimp on treatment for a guy like him who we just re-signed.
