Interesting article in Campbelltown Advertiser about crowd

[cktiger]

What a bunch of nitpickers looking for a way to dredge up the us versus them argument.
He was only saying he was disappointed about the size of the crowd.
It's a fact that people were calling for a Sunday arvo game to go to Cambelltown after being lumbered with night games for so long.
Well , people got what they wanted and didn't turn up - and that IS disappointing.
His reference to playing any time on a sunny Sunday at Leichhardt is true - there is always a decent crowd.
He also went out of his way to say it would not impact on further games going to Campbelltown.
In fact he did the opposite and said he'd try to find out what the club could do to better engage the fans who actually live close to the ground.
Whether anybody likes to hear it or not Campbelltown is not the choice location for most fans out of the area to go to.
Likewise Brookvale.
It may only be perception but people still think it's forever and a mile away.
I'm no big fan of Humphries but this post has denigrated into an agenda driven beat up.

 

[the_third]

Ok so I live in St. Peter's and grew up supporting balmain. Now that's out of the way I can make my point

I do not own a car, For me to travel to Leichhardt oval it takes 54 mins (on 131500.com) but I know on game day it takes a bit longer than that as the traffic is usually worse and it's faster to walk.

For me to get to Campbeltown stadium it takes 1:23 (also 131500.com). Given its a train i'll give state rail the benefit of the doubt on its ability to keep a timetable…

It's not that far when you look at it like this. I've done both to visit friends, I've done both to watch the footy. Can safely say that it is far better to travel to Campbeltown than Leichhardt for me.taking 54 mins to travel 8kms is not much fun

Why didn't I go? And am not going on Friday?

The team plays cr@p and it's like a lottery what you get. It's frustrating, it's annoying. If I was guaranteed a game where the players put in and I got a good contest I would go along with my kid.

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[Gary_Bakerloo]

Sydneys MMMs take on the small crowd at Cambo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJQQncO4rqE&feature=youtube

Absolute joke in that reasoning, we are nothing like Illawarra in the St. George merger, which has never been a true 50/50 split and is definitely more like the Northern Eagles (except still going).

Johns, Geyer and Worland are not the sharpest tools in the shed, but I guess they represent the average bogan and their mindset. In their heads, it feels like the Balmain Tigers and Western Suburbs is disappearing so we have to assume, many other league fans feel the same. One comment just screamed their ignorance or stupidity:

"Western Suburbs don't even have a premier league team anymore…" Balmain has not had a stand alone team at premier league level for many seasons.

Further, they don't read the SMH and understand what is occurring with Balmain's financial situation and the change in voting rights of the JV. I guess you don't get those types of informative articles in the Telegraph.

 

[Juro]

Coming back to my post earlier about which teams we have played at our various home grounds over recent years, here is the table from 2008-2013.


As can be seen, both Campbelltown and Leichhardt venues could argue that they are short-changed, regularly getting ordinary teams (eg Penrith at Campbelltown, New Zealand at Leichhardt). The reason is obvious - the grounds that pay the big bucks get first pick of the glamour games.

The only solution is for fans to get to all games.

 

[Gary_Bakerloo]

Coming back to my post earlier about which teams we have played at our various home grounds over recent years, here is the table from 2008-2013.

We have only played Newcastle twice at home in 5 years. How does that work?

 

[Juro]

Coming back to my post earlier about which teams we have played at our various home grounds over recent years, here is the table from 2008-2013.

We have only played Newcastle twice at home in 5 years. How does that work?

Yeah, that was a bit of a surprise for me too. We seem to only usually play them once each year, and recently it is almost always up there.

2013: 1 away
2012: 1 away
2011: 1 home
2010: 1 away
2009: 1 home
2008: 1 away
2007: 2 home + away
2006: 1 home
2005: 1 away
2004: 1 away
2003: 2 home + away
2002: 1 home
2001: 2 home + away
2000: 2 home + away

 

[jirskyr]

What a bunch of nitpickers looking for a way to dredge up the us versus them argument.
He was only saying he was disappointed about the size of the crowd.
It's a fact that people were calling for a Sunday arvo game to go to Cambelltown after being lumbered with night games for so long.
Well , people got what they wanted and didn't turn up - and that IS disappointing.
His reference to playing any time on a sunny Sunday at Leichhardt is true - there is always a decent crowd.
He also went out of his way to say it would not impact on further games going to Campbelltown.
In fact he did the opposite and said he'd try to find out what the club could do to better engage the fans who actually live close to the ground.
Whether anybody likes to hear it or not Campbelltown is not the choice location for most fans out of the area to go to.
Likewise Brookvale.
It may only be perception but people still think it's forever and a mile away.
I'm no big fan of Humphreys but this post has denigrated into an agenda driven beat up.

I agree ck, this is nitpicking.

Firstly I have no idea how Humphreys is actually performing as a CEO. I don't know our financial status exactly, don't know overall crowd figures, merchandise etc. That stuff is up to the board.

But if the crowd sucks, it sucks. Let's call a spade a spade. The same comments are appropriate if the Leichhardt crowd is poor.

The CEO has two options:
- say "disappointing crowd but there were mitigating circumstances and we hope for better next time".
- say "disappointing crowd and I can't see any reason for it, we brought a prime game to CSS and it backfired".

The first response type is just a cliche, up there with "we are concentraing on our own game", "we need to take more accoutnability", "take any team lightly and you will regret it". Second options challenges and embarrasses the fans. He is saying "if you want more games in prime times, then we need to see the support".

 

[TigerOfBankstown]

Wests have the money, Balmain has the fans. System works.

Wests have the money…
And the Juniors,
Half the coaching staff are ex Magpies
And the Leagues Clubs

OUR SIDE OF THE JOINT VENTURE NEEDS TO BE SHOWN MORE RESPECT.
When I was a kid you used to be able to walk down the road from Bradbury to Leumeah and be able to see the likes of Allan Langer and Mal Meninga.

Now we get Lachlan Cootes and Braith Anastas. Kurt Gidley if we are lucky.

So dont get snotty at a hard working westies for getting a bit bored after 7 years of table scraps.

Get over it the lot of ya

1)I am a former balmain supporter, now obviously a Wests Tigers supporter, Whats with all these former wests supporters going on about how wests have the money…. juniors etc etc

If wests have the money then go on ur own with ur 9000 supporters, correct me if im wrong, but in 99 if it wasnt for balmain, western suburbs would not have been a part of the NRL today, Tigers met the criteria hence and could have opted to stand alone but instead opted to merge with the Maggies..

Correct me if im wrong, but the last time the maggies won a premiership it was in the 1950's i think and the tigers in 1969, lets face it in todays game both Tigers and the maggies would be asbolutely crap in a stand alone capacity, stop dreaming...

Oh and leagues clubs can not sustain a RL club like in the old days.. hence its only part of a payment..

As for oponents, Penrith v Wests is a western derby, its not our fault Panthers are ordinary

I love wests tigers, and event if balmain could go alone(which they cant) id choose to stay with the maggies.. becuase the maggies are a part of the wests tigers just as much as Balmain hence i love the maggies too

So please who cares if the magpie isnt bigger, or they dont have a reserve grade side... stop listening to the poison that is Roy masters..

If u love ur team, get out there and show it.... no excuses....

GO the mighty tigers, ooopps sorry i forgot the mention wests,, that is wests tigers...

Geez how sensitive are people, and me thinks humpty dumpty should get teh sack

 

[simonthetiger]

What a bunch of nitpickers looking for a way to dredge up the us versus them argument.
He was only saying he was disappointed about the size of the crowd.
It's a fact that people were calling for a Sunday arvo game to go to Cambelltown after being lumbered with night games for so long.
Well , people got what they wanted and didn't turn up - and that IS disappointing.
His reference to playing any time on a sunny Sunday at Leichhardt is true - there is always a decent crowd.
He also went out of his way to say it would not impact on further games going to Campbelltown.
In fact he did the opposite and said he'd try to find out what the club could do to better engage the fans who actually live close to the ground.
Whether anybody likes to hear it or not Campbelltown is not the choice location for most fans out of the area to go to.
Likewise Brookvale.
It may only be perception but people still think it's forever and a mile away.
I'm no big fan of Humphreys but this post has denigrated into an agenda driven beat up.

Great post…

 

[GNR4LIFE]

What a bunch of nitpickers looking for a way to dredge up the us versus them argument.
He was only saying he was disappointed about the size of the crowd.
It's a fact that people were calling for a Sunday arvo game to go to Cambelltown after being lumbered with night games for so long.
Well , people got what they wanted and didn't turn up - and that IS disappointing.
His reference to playing any time on a sunny Sunday at Leichhardt is true - there is always a decent crowd.
He also went out of his way to say it would not impact on further games going to Campbelltown.
In fact he did the opposite and said he'd try to find out what the club could do to better engage the fans who actually live close to the ground.
Whether anybody likes to hear it or not Campbelltown is not the choice location for most fans out of the area to go to.
Likewise Brookvale.
It may only be perception but people still think it's forever and a mile away.
I'm no big fan of Humphreys but this post has denigrated into an agenda driven beat up.

I'm sure Leichhardt is a fair trek for the Cambo faithful as well but for all the so-called Magpie whinging i've never seen one complaint. On the other side of the coin i've seen dozens upon dozens complain about the trip to Cambo validating one of the arguments for numbers being down at Cambo is due to the fact that inner-west supporters refuse to travel. It seems as though whatever complaints Balmain have are always justified yet when the Wests side complain they are just whingers

 

[TigerOfBankstown]

What a bunch of nitpickers looking for a way to dredge up the us versus them argument.
He was only saying he was disappointed about the size of the crowd.
It's a fact that people were calling for a Sunday arvo game to go to Cambelltown after being lumbered with night games for so long.
Well , people got what they wanted and didn't turn up - and that IS disappointing.
His reference to playing any time on a sunny Sunday at Leichhardt is true - there is always a decent crowd.
He also went out of his way to say it would not impact on further games going to Campbelltown.
In fact he did the opposite and said he'd try to find out what the club could do to better engage the fans who actually live close to the ground.
Whether anybody likes to hear it or not Campbelltown is not the choice location for most fans out of the area to go to.
Likewise Brookvale.
It may only be perception but people still think it's forever and a mile away.
I'm no big fan of Humphreys but this post has denigrated into an agenda driven beat up.

I'm sure Leichhardt is a fair trek for the Cambo faithful as well but for all the so-called Magpie whinging i've never seen one complaint. On the other side of the coin i've seen dozens upon dozens complain about the trip to Cambo validating one of the arguments for numbers being down at Cambo is due to the fact that inner-west supporters refuse to travel. It seems as though whatever complaints Balmain have are always justified yet when the Wests side complain they are just whingers

I cant find any data about the demographics about the crowds attending LOO or Cambletown home games, how can we make assumptions with out evidence? with all the talk about RL juniors in cambletowns, one would assume the cambletown area is a rl town, hence no excuses, tigers are there team and we have plenty of stars, doesnt matter who we play..

If Tigers smashed Newcastle, then maybe the crowd would have been bigger..

Other than that is Cambletown really a Rugby league town? what were the crowds like then teh so called stars of Rugby League played there back in the magpie days..

Come on people, with out each other, we would fail miserably… lets be happy with what we have and build on it

 

[Black_n_White]

I cant find any data about the demographics about the crowds attending LOO or Cambletown home games, how can we make assumptions with out evidence? with all the talk about RL juniors in cambletowns, one would assume the cambletown area is a rl town, hence no excuses, tigers are there team and we have plenty of stars, doesnt matter who we play..

If Tigers smashed Newcastle, then maybe the crowd would have been bigger..

Other than that is Cambletown really a Rugby league town? what were the crowds like then teh so called stars of Rugby League played there back in the magpie days..

Come on people, with out each other, we would fail miserably… lets be happy with what we have and build on it

Magpies Glory days were a long time ago, before they moved to Campelltown… not long after Jesus was born.

The real problem is that rather than promote the product, the management would prefer to under-sell its potential to the SFS rather than giving it a shot.

 

[TigerOfBankstown]

I'd be happy as a Former balmain supporter to play games at cambletown as against the SFS.. not a fan of SFS, i even work in the city walking distance to the SFS though id rather go leichhardt or cambletown…

All this talk about money and stadiums, lets hope the NRL doesnt follow the AFL model and have all games play out of homebush... that would be a tragedy.. hence i urge all suporters to get out there.. and prove its worth the economic sacrifice..

But humpty dumpty, as much as i like to see him sacked, he has a point, how would someone feel if they loose $3000 from their monthly salary...

 

[Winnipeg]

rather than bickering, the important thing to remember is that whenever there's a poor crowd, no matter where it is, the club suffers and all the fans suffer.

If it came down to the NRL wanting to centralise games [jeez that would be terrible] or the club needing to do so for financial reasons, I would hope they would at least keep one game a year at Leichhardt and Cambo.

 

[barrytiger]

what a load of rubbish wheres Balmains premier league team,wheres the Balmain TIgers emblem on the sleeve,concord is Magpie territory,the fact is the campbelltown area is full of people that have moved there for affordable housing and have brought there support of other teams with them.they are Wests Tigers not Magpies or Balmain,get over it or follow another team

 

[gallagher]

I cant find any data about the demographics about the crowds attending **LOO or Cambletown** home games,

You put the loo into Leichhardt must missed the 'pee' in Campbelltown!! What gives????

 

[Juro]

And here is Chris Lawrence's take on the crowd:

Although the crowd was slightly smaller than what we hoped for, I just like to thank those supporters who came out to Campbelltown Sports Stadium and got behind us. As a proud Campbelltown boy, I love playing at the stadium. It was a wonderful day too weather wise and with three matches on, I’m sure those who did attend got their money’s worth.
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Hopefully we will see more Wests Tigers supporters at our next home game at Campbelltown Sports Stadium against the Brisbane Broncos on Saturday, April 27.

http://www.weststigers.com.au/news-display/Tiger%20Talk%20column%20Chris%20Lawrence/70570

 

[innsaneink]

Those that stayed home really missed something.

Our first win….the boys playing really well.
The weather was absolutely schmick....couldnt have been better.

Had an awesome time and plenty of room to stretch out

Your loss.

 

[Craegus]

Here was something that happened last night;

I was in the members line waiting for the gates to open and the woman who would have been in her late 20's or early to mid 30's behind me said "well hopefully we get a good crowd tonight, especially seen the Western Suburbs supporters don't travel, even to their games at Campbelltown".

Though I didn't (and in hindsight I should of), I felt like turning around, holding my hand out and saying "Hi, Western Suburbs supporter since I was 5, current Wests Tigers supporter, travelled from Campbelltown tonight and was there last week, nice to meet you".

There was also a woman not a metre or two away wearing a Magpies heritage jersey (the 2008 one) though I don't think she heard the comment as there was another bloke going off about the gates not being open, that it wasn't like the old days, and if the club continued like this no-one would show up (this was at about 5pm, so a full 15 minutes before the advertised member opening time), but I digress.

This wasn't even a lighthearted or joke comment, as are sometimes heard at games, she was dead serious, and it almost sounded like she was bragging that she was a former Balmain supporter and as such was better than the Magpies supporters.

My mother who was with me (and as I have mentioned in the past is a former Balmain supporter but lives in Campbelltown as well) looked at me with a sense of disgust at the comment as well. I can't believe….well I probably can, the attitude of people that support this club. It really does amaze me sometimes.

 

[cunno]

I went to the game at Campbelltown last week and to Leichhardt oval last night. After the game I took my usual trip to the gents knowing it was a long drive back to the south west. I am used to the banter that can go on at times between some former Wests and Balmain supporters mostly good hearted but it was disappointing to walk into the gents last night and see two Wests Tigers supporters close to going toe to toe over Wests v Balmain comments after a good win by our team it was hard to fathom.