Interesting Potter and Blair comments.
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I think we will know in the first eight weeks Potters fate. If the team can't win at least three games under his leadership then the knives will be out. If the team doesn't make the top eight the knives will be out. There can't be any excuses this year … It's get results or see you later Harry.
happy_tiger
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@Knuckles said:
Bit rough brother , I thought at best we'd be 3-5 after Round 8
"Make the eight"
A bit too simplistic imo
Based on last season we could improve quite a deal and still miss the eight…that imo is a realistic proposition.
Teams can be performing terribly and fall into the eight, and others can be flying home and just miss out.
Does a ladder position at a specified date at seasons end determine two years work, ready to be thrown away and everything go back to square one?
As I said, too simplistic. Too many variables over a few seasons to judge on a ladder position
A bit too simplistic imo
Based on last season we could improve quite a deal and still miss the eight…that imo is a realistic proposition.
Teams can be performing terribly and fall into the eight, and others can be flying home and just miss out.
Does a ladder position at a specified date at seasons end determine two years work, ready to be thrown away and everything go back to square one?
As I said, too simplistic. Too many variables over a few seasons to judge on a ladder position
My indicator of a successful 2014 will be the following:
- A solid, concerted defensive effort;
- The forwards don't get dominated;
- Troubling the top sides. We don't have to beat them all, but just shake them up and make them work hard for their wins. If we can trouble teams like Easts, Souths and Manly, that will be a stark improvement on the last two seasons;
- No landslide scorelines against us. I can forgive one or maybe two depending on injuries, but the reality is that good sides don't get flogged by 30-40 points regularly.
- High percentage football. The outside backs have the flair to make magic happen, but our halves should be playing smart football. Kick for corners, a good passing game and running the ball, leave the fancy stuff to the guys wearing 1 through to 5.
We can do all that, miss the eight, and I will be satisfied that Potter has brought the team along in leaps and bounds.
- A solid, concerted defensive effort;
- The forwards don't get dominated;
- Troubling the top sides. We don't have to beat them all, but just shake them up and make them work hard for their wins. If we can trouble teams like Easts, Souths and Manly, that will be a stark improvement on the last two seasons;
- No landslide scorelines against us. I can forgive one or maybe two depending on injuries, but the reality is that good sides don't get flogged by 30-40 points regularly.
- High percentage football. The outside backs have the flair to make magic happen, but our halves should be playing smart football. Kick for corners, a good passing game and running the ball, leave the fancy stuff to the guys wearing 1 through to 5.
We can do all that, miss the eight, and I will be satisfied that Potter has brought the team along in leaps and bounds.
I think Ink asks a valid and interesting question: "Does a ladder position at a specified date at seasons end determine two years work, ready to be thrown away and everything go back to square one?"
After a season of disruption to the playing roster through injury and underperformance, disruptions due to petty board squabbling, and disruption through constant media attention to an under performing billboard player and an ex coach, isn't a period of stability and structural building exactly what this team needs?
Maybe a new thread topic should be: What are the performance indicators that will determine the 'thumbs up or thumbs down' for Mick Potter?**
Maybe my view is too simplistic, but as long as the team is moving forward and improving he continues to have my vote. To me it is way too early to be talking about creating another destabilising factor for the team.
**Pipped at the post; CB has answered my question nicely.^
After a season of disruption to the playing roster through injury and underperformance, disruptions due to petty board squabbling, and disruption through constant media attention to an under performing billboard player and an ex coach, isn't a period of stability and structural building exactly what this team needs?
Maybe a new thread topic should be: What are the performance indicators that will determine the 'thumbs up or thumbs down' for Mick Potter?**
Maybe my view is too simplistic, but as long as the team is moving forward and improving he continues to have my vote. To me it is way too early to be talking about creating another destabilising factor for the team.
**Pipped at the post; CB has answered my question nicely.^
Saturnalia
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My measure of him will be our for and against at seasons end.
I think we've only been positive once or twice in the past 10 years?
I think we've only been positive once or twice in the past 10 years?
a woods another 3 years what I like every player that talks on tv or radio are all saying that they have signed up because they want to play for the tigers young up and comers it seems the club is very happy one. I think potter and the new coaches know what is needed. maybe we are in for a better year than a lot people think
fergiefurr
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I just want to see a better attitude from the team as a whole. Last year even though we finished 15th I saw an improvement in this, particularly from the younger brigade. The ones with the poor attitude (benji, Ayshford, lote etc) have been moved on. I believe if this is fully turned around the results will eventually come.
Saturnalia
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@pHyR3 said:
+34 isn't something to write home about. + 89 in 2011 was better but still way below the best teams in the competition. Were talking +150
stevetiger
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I just want to see Potter make predominantly the right decisions and for the club to appear professional.
My concerns are Anasta getting played when he doesn't deserve a spot on form and too many small players in the backrow mainly Fulton and Halatau.
I want to see a big dominant pack of forwards and quick outside backs. Hopefully if Potter gets the halves right then we will go as well as we can and I'll be happy with that no matter where we end up on the ladder.
My concerns are Anasta getting played when he doesn't deserve a spot on form and too many small players in the backrow mainly Fulton and Halatau.
I want to see a big dominant pack of forwards and quick outside backs. Hopefully if Potter gets the halves right then we will go as well as we can and I'll be happy with that no matter where we end up on the ladder.
@stevetiger said:
Yeah, I think its great he has recruited a few forwards, that look like damaging runners, taupau runs very hard, Patterson bends the line and has a great off load…. Watching the weekend and a fully fit gavett, he was impressive...
As far as anasta goes, I'm not trying to be his biggest advocate, hoever he was brought across to play 5:8th and played most of the year in the backrow?
When he was in the halves, he was outside the most unstructured half in the comp.
He played outside Austin on the weekend, and looked like a great player, both did.
My concern is, of Austin come up due to his great form to partner brooks after a few rounds...
Where does that leave anasta?
I can't see him getting dropped unless injured..
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simonthetiger
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I must admit to being pumped about our pack this year…..with Gavet looking fit,as well as Tapau and Patterson added to big Keef and Woodsy we have some size,grunt and a little offload in there as well....
Our pack was extremely inexperienced last year. We debuted Buchanan, Ava, Sue, Spence, Brown and Farlow, while moving Siro there for the first time. The beauty of this season is not only the addition of experience like Paterson and Taupau, but guys like Buchanan, Ava and Sue now have 20 games under their belt which we didn't have last year.
From all reports they've all packed on some kilos over summer too. I hope this translates into a more competitive team both in attack and defence. Without making metres, Brooks will struggle, and the pressure will mount.
From all reports they've all packed on some kilos over summer too. I hope this translates into a more competitive team both in attack and defence. Without making metres, Brooks will struggle, and the pressure will mount.
Fraze23
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@simonthetiger said:
I wouldn't be surprised if Gavet nabs a bench spot for round 1.
@alexaki said:
Buchannan is very one dimensional, I like him, no nonsense, just hard working, but predictive..
Bmm and gavet have a good offload, md run hard…
Gavet is fitter and more mobile, have also heard that he is a much better trainer than bmm.
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