simonthetiger
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http://www.theroar.com.au/2015/05/27/major-problems-for-jason-taylor-and-the-wests-tigers/
Interesting read!
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Thanks Simon,it is a good read ,but it is something we have constantly discussed and argued here on the forum…"Let them off the leash" comes to mind...Let them" play what's infront of them"...Kick and find the grass instead of bomb,after bomb,after bomb...
As the Journo constantly says "it's the coaches fault"...maybe JT is digging a massive hole for himself,while taking the team with him..I too hope he changes some of the " structure" and lets them find some attacking flair and expansive football sooner than later....
As the Journo constantly says "it's the coaches fault"...maybe JT is digging a massive hole for himself,while taking the team with him..I too hope he changes some of the " structure" and lets them find some attacking flair and expansive football sooner than later....
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Tiger_In_The_Gong
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Taylor has completely whipped the imagination, creativity and flair out of this team – and remember that for all their youth and talent this should be one of the most creative teams in the competition. In fact, the only time the Tigers looked remotely dangerous or even interesting for that matter, was the two chip kicks provided by maligned youngster Mitchell Moses.
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Taylor has tried to turn this team into a structured-and-rehearsed-play team. That’s (sort of) fine, except that the strategies, structures and rehearsed plays are abysmal – and that is the coach’s fault and his fault alone. The continual midfield bombing from Luke Brooks and Moses is a directive of Taylor – the chip and chase is closer to their natural game.
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How meekly turning over possession, finding the fullback’s chest continually (Mitchell Pearce eat your heart out), and building no pressure can be considered a tactic is beyond me. Kicking to open space and corners is a tactic that 15 other sides in this competition use and funnily enough 13 of them are ahead of the Tigers on the ladder.
Exactly as everyone has been saying, but lets watch the positive brigade minions defend this one again.
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Taylor has tried to turn this team into a structured-and-rehearsed-play team. That’s (sort of) fine, except that the strategies, structures and rehearsed plays are abysmal – and that is the coach’s fault and his fault alone. The continual midfield bombing from Luke Brooks and Moses is a directive of Taylor – the chip and chase is closer to their natural game.
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How meekly turning over possession, finding the fullback’s chest continually (Mitchell Pearce eat your heart out), and building no pressure can be considered a tactic is beyond me. Kicking to open space and corners is a tactic that 15 other sides in this competition use and funnily enough 13 of them are ahead of the Tigers on the ladder.
Exactly as everyone has been saying, but lets watch the positive brigade minions defend this one again.
stevetiger
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I honestly am surprised that anyone is sticking up for this guy and buying his long term palava. You cannot win football games without scoring points. I've also never been less interested in watching us play as we are so boring.
To top it all off his talk about structures is one of the all time dumbest comments I have ever heard.
Lets hope he grows some brains and starts trying to win some games.
To top it all off his talk about structures is one of the all time dumbest comments I have ever heard.
Lets hope he grows some brains and starts trying to win some games.
@magpiecol said:
Col.,Stevetiger has every right to voice his opinion without being belittled,as a matter of fact Steve is saying what a lot won't because they want to go with the flow of what's happening…I happen to agree with some of what Steve says,if you think Taylor's process is winning him popularity...think again...It would be great if our team shows some attacking flair and determination to win a game of football,after all we have a team full of superstars ready to set the Tigers up for many years to come...I just hope many of us will be able to see the end result or at least string a couple of wins together to keep me interested in this great game in the meantime while these PROFFESIONAL footballers learn a basic fundamental of the game....DEFENCE....
happy_tiger
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@Tiger In The Gong said:
I'm not getting into again TITG , lets just say we agree we will disagree on this one
innsaneink
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While I understand what he is trying….hoping to achieve with this process...it all seems a bit " iffy" and "maybe " at this stage...no guarantees this will work in the end....I will watch and wait but hope and expectation has really deserted me now
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stevetiger
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@innsaneink said:
I've seen a lot of scammers in my time. They often state stuff like Taylor states to divert attention away from the real issue which is typically that they have no idea.
You need to score points to win games. We aren't doing that. No amount of BS will get around that.
I've been willing to give Taylor the benefit of the doubt, but he is def starting to lose me. It looks like the players are tired of playing brain-dead and that now seems to be the biggest issue.
When a player passes instead of taking on the line when there is a really good chance to score (have seen it happen a couple of times now) surely that should be allowed under Taylor law?
I mean, it's not like trying a chip kick on the 1/2 line!!
When a player passes instead of taking on the line when there is a really good chance to score (have seen it happen a couple of times now) surely that should be allowed under Taylor law?
I mean, it's not like trying a chip kick on the 1/2 line!!
happy_tiger
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@stevetiger said:
We know when we concentrate on attack we have points in us
We have rarely ever proven we can defend on a consistent basis
supercoach
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It was a good read but just echoed what we have all been saying on the forum. I think most people understand what Taylor is trying to achieve and think it has some merit, its just the way he has gone about it and the football we are playing in order to bed in this so called structure.
As supporters for a long time we have been asked to show patience, that their is a grand plan in place and the good years are not far away, but as each year rolls on the spin is getting harder to swallow
As supporters for a long time we have been asked to show patience, that their is a grand plan in place and the good years are not far away, but as each year rolls on the spin is getting harder to swallow
mike
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@stevetiger said:
And more points than the opposition….
happy_tiger
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@supercoach said:
Sheens did attempt something similar in 2010/2011 but it was always going to be hard having Benji in the side
But you look at that side v 2015 side and its a completely different set of circumstances
Unfortunately someone had to have the nads to do this and Taylor is proving invaluable with his conviction to the cause
We will come out a far better ,consistent side once we deal with the current pain
happy_tiger
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@barra said:
Well in real terms only the squad can answer that question , true ??
The quicker they get it right , the quicker the pain is over
stevetiger
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@happy tiger said:
I don't think that this is a factual statement and I don't think it has anything at all to do with Taylor ball.
You can state that if we somehow learn to defend then we will easily score points but that is completely unproven. You can state that somehow our offence is fine and our defence is the problem however you could easily state its our offence which is the problem. In 2005 our offence was great. That is why we won the comp. If we get that right we should go well. I'm not even going to go into this line of reasoning though because its obviously short sighted and missing half of the picture.
A couple of points that to me are completely obvious and prove Taylor has no idea:-
1\. You need to score more points than you concede to win games. Focussing on defence only will not win you games because you also need to score points.
2\. Focussing on defence does not mean that you have no attack. You can have a good attack and a good defence.
stevetiger
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@happy tiger said:
I hope you realize that your assumption here is a a massive assumption that I think is just not going to happen.
You can't just focus on defence and be a quality first grade rugby league team. Its absurd.
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