Iosefa

[Frank_the_tank]

I'd start him at hooker and play farrah at halfback

 

[system]

Defensively he is poor. He gets shrugged off the back of tackles and always allows a quick PTB.

I would prefer to see Humble at halfback.

 

[Brisbane_Tiger]

Has is really come to this? he would not make the run on side in any other team. (Maybe Parramatta atm)

 

[tigersrule4life]

Do u even know he played nsw cup 2 days before the game haha.

 

[flash]

I'd start him at hooker and play farrah at halfback

I agree, I thought Iosefa was outstanding last night. Having Farrah at 7 will minimise Benji's handles, his poor options lately have been costing us big time. His kicking game also needs to be reduced and Farrah will ensure that also happens.

 

[dermo]

I like the idea of playing him at 13, in a similar role to Dean Young or Halatau

 

[hellman]

He was huge for us. Anyone criticising him needs to rewatch that game.

 

[jirskyr]

Defensively he is poor. He gets shrugged off the back of tackles and always allows a quick PTB.

I would prefer to see Humble at halfback.

His defence concerns me too. Very often caught behind or to the side of the ruck.

 

[underdog]

If he works on his defence he'd be awesome.

Admittedly i'm already eating humble pie regarding how much of a help he has been to our team.

 

[mtd]

Farah at half has been tried, tested and FAILED over and over again but hey let's try it again it might work for the sixth time…

Agreed. Why on earth out Farah back at half back?…Surely- SURELY there must be another option....Humble at least? Miller?... He's a great player at hooker- enough with players out of position, already!!!!
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you mean like playing moltzen at fullback?
or like playing marshall at halfback?
we would move farah because its better for the team. we need impact up the middle that iosefa provides.
farah will do the same job as the current halves (aka go through the motions)…. doesnt need to kill it there, i mean the guys we have had there havent been killing it (exception of sirro, i have been very impressed).

 

[mtd]

mtd come on? Farah tells everybody else what to do on literally every play. He does way more than take the odd scott and pass.

maybe thats the problem. the players around him are not morons.

farah gets in there and passes them the ball. yes he does some organising, which is part of the hooker role, but my point is iosefa did the exact same thing tonight and seemed to be alot more effective. our forwards actually made metres. we had momentum around the middle of the ruck.

i think people (not neccesarily you) think that he is a genius that reads the play and magically opens holes for our forwards. he doesnt. there is nothing apart from his name and stigma in the club that justifies keeping him there ahead of iosefa if we are going on FORM. love farah as much as the next bloke, but iosefa showed he is the better choice hooker at the moment for the benefit of the WT team.

My God. Iosefa played well but lets not go crazy. No I don't think Farah is superman but he is a far better player than Iosefa. How good did we look in the first 30 when he was at 9 compared to the last 50? as far as I'm concerned we looked lost in attack from the 30 minute mark. And yes there was a shuffle, but that shuffle would be pretty much the same side we field next week except for someone else playing centre other than Fulton.

As far as I'm concerned Farah was completely ineffective as soon as we moved to the halves. He was cutting them up when he was at hooker until the 30m mark and made some good metres, scored a try, gave fulton space for the second try.

Iosefa has natural skills and is a strong runner (Id play him lock and he can chime into dummy half when he wants). But while he is a **great runner, very strong and fast, no way does he get us going forward like Farah does and he also doesn't overly set up our kickers well on the last**. Everytime our kicker got it in the second half tonight they pretty much had a man on him. I could say more, but i don't want to appear like i don't like Iosefa, as i do, but Farah is a far better player.

**Putting Farah to the halves nullifies what Farahs good at (Which is really just dummy half play….hes not overly strong, quick, elusive etc).**

howcan you say iosefa does not get us going forward???? what games have yoyu been watching?
check out the games over the past 4 years where farah is hooker and tell me about our go forward. last night was some of our best. we made alot of tough metres coming out of our own end. it was incredible to watch (a change).
also, our kickers are pathetic. blaming it on iosefa is ludacris. they are rubbish week in week out, whether he is there or not.

farah can play #7 and still get into dummy half. we cant pick the team around farah (because he's only good out of dummy half). if we have someone that can do the job better or more effective than him, we need to make that call, as tough as it may be..

 

[hybrid_tiger]

We looked good when Farah was at hooker.

We looked like a lost rabble when Farah was moved to half.

Farah at #7 has never worked, never will. He isn't a halfback. If we've lost a half, then PICK A HALF TO REPLACE HIM.

It's not rocket science.

 

[TIGER]

Easily our most valuable buy, he defiantly gets the ruck rolling and his passes are swift and well directed, he actually makes passing look effortless. He's a natural rake, why anyone would want him playing lock i don't know.

It's quite plain to see his strength is sniffing around the ruck and identifying ruck speed he's a natural at it, now we just need some speed to hang around him and run off his hip when he decides to dart and we'll bust teams open straight up the guts. I think he's been one of our best in every game he's played eats Humble for breakfast imo.

 

[cktiger]

I have said in other threads I love him in the team - but he's no Farah.
His dummy half passing is not his strongest point - in fact he is a bit slow and wayward on far too many occasions.
Also think he holds the ball himself a little too often.
At present he's the perfect guy to bring on when the opposition is tiring.
Unless maybe he can be our 100th halfback this year?

 

[Andyvee]

Iosefa at 7…

Yep, was just thinking that. Move Benji back to 5/8 and keep Farah at 9.

 

[magpiecol]

We looked good when Farah was at hooker.

We looked like a lost rabble when Farah was moved to half.

Farah at #7 has never worked, never will. He isn't a halfback. If we've lost a half, then PICK A HALF TO REPLACE HIM.

It's not rocket science.

Agree tiger. At the risk of putting our NYC team at a disadvantage, Miller has to come into the side. As someone else stated, we need some pace out wide (or everywhere for that matter).

The injuries last night will just about knock us out for this year, so it is time to blood some new players.

We will be needing, a fullback ( Ryan? ), a centre, two wingers, (Grant, both wingers from the NYC, one of whom could play centre).

Utai, who does try hard, and Reddy are slow. You cannot beat speed. And what in the hell has gone wrong with Marshall?

So, a new half, both wingers and a centre and a second row ( Blair should drop back and a new front row forward for starters).

I believe that this year has now gone so planning for next year is vital.

 

[Tigersmurf]

I thought he and Liam were our best out there last night. I disagree on his service from dummy half ck, I though he was throwing some pretty impressive ball which was providing Robbie and Benji with good clean ball to service the backs. His tackling can be ordinary with lots of arms flying around all over the place but his creativity, speed and bullocking runs gave us an extra dimension. I thought he ran the ball a lot like Utai.

It is not fair to hold him responsible for our attack after the 30 minute mark as we were busted from that time on. The fact we did all that tackling in the second half and still had some energy to test them was a credit to the team. I don't think I support Farah at half, but Iosefa has to be in the team somewhere.

 

[milford_magic]

howcan you say iosefa does not get us going forward???? what games have yoyu been watching?
check out the games over the past 4 years where farah is hooker and tell me about our go forward. last night was some of our best. we made alot of tough metres coming out of our own end. it was incredible to watch (a change).
also, our kickers are pathetic. blaming it on iosefa is ludacris. they are rubbish week in week out, whether he is there or not.

Iosefa did a good job mate I never said he didn't, but he is not as good as Farah. After the 30 minute mark we never seriously looked like scoring. There were several reasons for that, but one of the reasons was that Farah was not at 9\. I like IOSEFA but the fact is Farah is better than him. In the same light, I think there are 14 better NRL Fullbacks than Ryan, but it doesn't mean I don't like Ryan.

farah can play #7 and still get into dummy half. we cant pick the team around farah (because he's only good out of dummy half). if we have someone that can do the job better or more effective than him, we need to make that call, as tough as it may be..

LOL. We aren't picking the team around Farah. Ill put it simply. Farah is the best hooker in the NRL at club level. However his the style of player that doesn't translate to other positions, and he would probably be the worst, or second worst halfback in the nrl at club level. Iosefa on the other hand is a lot quicker, stronger etc and has the ability to make an impact in other positions cause he is that type of player. Hell he could play as a hard running forward if he wanted to cause he's big and physical enough.

Secondly, it is not about making a tough call because Iosefa is not a better number 9 than Farah. Seriously LOL.

 

[Twodogs]

The solution is simple - play Iosefa from the bench as an impact player. Keep Farah at 9 but share dummy half duties when Iosefa is on the field. For chrissake Sheens, play our players to their strengths!!
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[barra]

mtd come on? Farah tells everybody else what to do on literally every play. He does way more than take the odd scott and pass.

maybe thats the problem. the players around him are not morons.

Maybe it is the problem. At one stage Iosefa was at dummy half, Farah moved in and pushed him aside then when he got his hands on the ball it was like "oh - what now?" and he passed it straight to Benji who was standing behind the play and not wanting a bar of it! It was the same old 'no plan B' we see far too often.

I thought Iosefa was one of our best, had plenty of energy at dummy half and from what the commentators said he also brought line speed to our defence. Has to be there. Starting at hooker for mine, only to cover our lack of half back - if we had one I'd put him on the bench.