Is JT serious

[stevetiger]

Not to sound like i'm defending Taylor here, but lets be honest.

You are constantly defending the guy. Let him cop it when he says and does stupid stuff which let's be honest has occurred a lot. He was a dud last year. Absolutely terrible. I'm hopeful he has learned from last year and I think he has improved this year but let's see how we go this season. We are in a tough patch right now and he and the players need to get us out of this

Did you read beyond my first sentence that you quoted? Where was I defending him for last week or last yr? I was pretty clear in saying the blame lay at his feet. But where did it lay last night? The balance of the bench was fine. All last night did was show how brittle the playing roster is. Blame them, maybe they are just as big a part of the problem in this.

I think we can blame the playing roster and Taylor especially when Taylor has a history of stating stuff that makes him appear to have no idea about winning rugby league games.

Watch his press conference this week. He sounds like he had the issues right. If he spoke like that more consistently and the team were playing good footy I'd have a lot more confidence in him.

I don't think our playing roster though is that bad. I think it's decent. We probably need a better bench but apart from that it's just poor discipline that has cost us recently. Maybe we need a change in our halves but they have their moments and they are learning. I think though letting Austin and Taupau go for instance were two big mistakes.

 

[sideline_eye]

Without all the angst about the coach or various players, from where I was sitting in the western grandstand, we were a front rower short in the rotation and if Cherrington is only to play 10 minutes per game, replace him on the bench with either Edwards or one of our younger props, Graham or Grant. This should help the fatigue factor and consequently, our unforced errors. I would go for Edwards simply because he is experienced but I wouldn't complain about either of the others.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

From the moment Gallen scored to make it 24-20 I considered it a loss, regardless if we went on to win or not. Would have been yet another game we won while still conceding 20+ plus points. I'm not a fan of 31-30 victories. What it does is tell the opposition that if they hold the ball, they will score enough points against us if we're off with our attack like we were against Parra.

 

[boonboon]

I really think some people are overating cronulla though… They're nothing special

defo agree
All the hype around them for top 4 has me flummoxed tbh. They'll be around the bottom half of the 8 or so, but as you say - nothing special.
That's exactly where we need to be aiming. Passing off the loss as 'oh it's alright, they're a top team' is a poor and defeatist attitude. JT looked gutted in his press conference, much more so than the previous too games, and I'm much the same.

Cant agree with those assessments of the Sharks. Fafita, Gallen and Barba were outstanding. And players like Bird and Lewis werent far behind. They may be an outside back or two short but the necleus of a very good side is there.

I dont agree either. They are a quality side who are pealing off wins without playing exceptional footy yet. Apart from the 5 names Pymble elluded to, they also have a clever and creative pair of halves in Maloney and Townsend, a consistently good backrower in Graham, a manipulative worker at number 9 in Ennis, a genuine star in the making in Holmes and a big, experienced and aggro bench. They will be right up there come the end of the year.

Agree I picked the Sharks to make the GF at the start of the year and haven't seen anything to say they won't as yet. I expected a Sharks v Broncos grand final with Cowboys to run out of puff like back to back teams do.

I am dissapointed we have only won 2/5 because we have been within striking distance or in fact in front at HT in 2 of them but I think we are still very much top 8 potential. Now if we loose to Knights next week then its a different story.

 

[sunshine_coast_tiger]

defo agree
All the hype around them for top 4 has me flummoxed tbh. They'll be around the bottom half of the 8 or so, but as you say - nothing special.
That's exactly where we need to be aiming. Passing off the loss as 'oh it's alright, they're a top team' is a poor and defeatist attitude. JT looked gutted in his press conference, much more so than the previous too games, and I'm much the same.

Cant agree with those assessments of the Sharks. Fafita, Gallen and Barba were outstanding. And players like Bird and Lewis werent far behind. They may be an outside back or two short but the necleus of a very good side is there.

I dont agree either. They are a quality side who are pealing off wins without playing exceptional footy yet. Apart from the 5 names Pymble elluded to, they also have a clever and creative pair of halves in Maloney and Townsend, a consistently good backrower in Graham, a manipulative worker at number 9 in Ennis, a genuine star in the making in Holmes and a big, experienced and aggro bench. They will be right up there come the end of the year.

Agree I picked the Sharks to make the GF at the start of the year and haven't seen anything to say they won't as yet. I expected a Sharks v Broncos grand final with Cowboys to run out of puff like back to back teams do.

I am dissapointed we have only won 2/5 because we have been within striking distance or in fact in front at HT in 2 of them but I think we are still very much top 8 potential. Now if we loose to Knights next week then its a different story.

The sharks were very beatable yesterday we didn't play well enough and had no ball in the second half (a lot to do with a lopsided penalty count against us in that half).

A loss to Newcastle next week is unacceptable, they are the worse side in the NRL and we should not accept anything other than a win against them.

 

[Muffstar]

Cant agree with those assessments of the Sharks. Fafita, Gallen and Barba were outstanding. And players like Bird and Lewis werent far behind. They may be an outside back or two short but the necleus of a very good side is there.

I dont agree either. They are a quality side who are pealing off wins without playing exceptional footy yet. Apart from the 5 names Pymble elluded to, they also have a clever and creative pair of halves in Maloney and Townsend, a consistently good backrower in Graham, a manipulative worker at number 9 in Ennis, a genuine star in the making in Holmes and a big, experienced and aggro bench. They will be right up there come the end of the year.

Agree I picked the Sharks to make the GF at the start of the year and haven't seen anything to say they won't as yet. I expected a Sharks v Broncos grand final with Cowboys to run out of puff like back to back teams do.

I am dissapointed we have only won 2/5 because we have been within striking distance or in fact in front at HT in 2 of them but I think we are still very much top 8 potential. Now if we loose to Knights next week then its a different story.

The sharks were very beatable yesterday we didn't play well enough and had no ball in the second half (a lot to do with a lopsided penalty count against us in that half).

A loss to Newcastle next week is unacceptable, they are the worse side in the NRL and we should not accept anything other than a win against them.

Newcastle played pretty well against Melbourne yesterday. They are improving, sadly we are not, so don't write them off as a team which we will beat easily.

 

[Muffstar]

Cant agree with those assessments of the Sharks. Fafita, Gallen and Barba were outstanding. And players like Bird and Lewis werent far behind. They may be an outside back or two short but the necleus of a very good side is there.

I dont agree either. They are a quality side who are pealing off wins without playing exceptional footy yet. Apart from the 5 names Pymble elluded to, they also have a clever and creative pair of halves in Maloney and Townsend, a consistently good backrower in Graham, a manipulative worker at number 9 in Ennis, a genuine star in the making in Holmes and a big, experienced and aggro bench. They will be right up there come the end of the year.

Agree I picked the Sharks to make the GF at the start of the year and haven't seen anything to say they won't as yet. I expected a Sharks v Broncos grand final with Cowboys to run out of puff like back to back teams do.

I am dissapointed we have only won 2/5 because we have been within striking distance or in fact in front at HT in 2 of them but I think we are still very much top 8 potential. Now if we loose to Knights next week then its a different story.

The sharks were very beatable yesterday we didn't play well enough and had no ball in the second half (a lot to do with a lopsided penalty count against us in that half).

A loss to Newcastle next week is unacceptable, they are the worse side in the NRL and we should not accept anything other than a win against them.

Newcastle played pretty well against Melbourne yesterday. They are improving, sadly we are not, so don't write them off as a team which we will beat easily.

 

[Curaeus]

Always had a feeling the Sharks were going to win yesterday even when we regained the lead in the second half. We still concede far too many stupid penalties. Our indiscipline is and remains a major problem and will continue to cost us points-and games. What worries me most is that by the time we do get our act together, our outstanding juniors like Brooks, Moses and possibly Teddy will have just had enough and departed for more competitive outfits.

 

[TYGA]

I have a suspicion on the back of losses to the Titans, Eels, Sharks and Knights Taylor will be on shaky ground. The result next week will be pivotal as it was reported before the season starts after round 6 Taylor can be sacked with no payout. This coupled with Buckets disrespecting the coach with Pizza and Beer and reported interest in a Cleary favourite in Elijah Taylor might all point in one direction.

The biggest question remains around resigning Brooks, Moses and Tedesco.
To be honest Taylor hasn't done that bad a job with the exception of playing Lovett, Buchanan, Rankin, 3 hookers and under utilising the bench. Our lack of squad depth is really the issue.

 

[Snake]

I have a suspicion on the back of losses to the Titans, Eels, Sharks and Knights Taylor will be on shaky ground. The result next week will be pivotal as it was reported before the season starts after round 6 Taylor can be sacked with no payout. This coupled with Buckets disrespecting the coach with Pizza and Beer and reported interest in a Cleary favourite in Elijah Taylor might all point in one direction.

The biggest question remains around resigning Brooks, Moses and Tedesco.
To be honest Taylor hasn't done that bad a job with the exception of playing Lovett, Buchanan, Rankin, 3 hookers and under utilising the bench. Our lack of squad depth is really the issue.

It would not take to much to not exactly kill yourself to put Taylor in the 6 round senario things seem to have gone down hill since round 2.

 

[cunno]

I have a suspicion on the back of losses to the Titans, Eels, Sharks and Knights Taylor will be on shaky ground. The result next week will be pivotal as it was reported before the season starts after round 6 Taylor can be sacked with no payout. This coupled with Buckets disrespecting the coach with Pizza and Beer and reported interest in a Cleary favourite in Elijah Taylor might all point in one direction.

The biggest question remains around resigning Brooks, Moses and Tedesco.
To be honest Taylor hasn't done that bad a job with the exception of playing Lovett, Buchanan, Rankin, 3 hookers and under utilising the bench. Our lack of squad depth is really the issue.

It would not take to much to not exactly kill yourself to put Taylor in the 6 round senario things seem to have gone down hill since round 2.

Unfortunately after a bright start to the season things are sliding, a loss next week and the buzzards will be circling.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I have a suspicion on the back of losses to the Titans, Eels, Sharks and Knights Taylor will be on shaky ground. The result next week will be pivotal as it was reported before the season starts after round 6 Taylor can be sacked with no payout. This coupled with Buckets disrespecting the coach with Pizza and Beer and reported interest in a Cleary favourite in Elijah Taylor might all point in one direction.

The biggest question remains around resigning Brooks, Moses and Tedesco.
To be honest Taylor hasn't done that bad a job with the exception of playing Lovett, Buchanan, Rankin, 3 hookers and under utilising the bench. Our lack of squad depth is really the issue.

It would not take to much to not exactly kill yourself to put Taylor in the 6 round senario things seem to have gone down hill since round 2.

Unfortunately after a bright start to the season things are sliding, a loss next week and the buzzards will be circling.

I feel like we've had this type of start to the yr before.

 

[stryker]

The players could well be playing for Taylors future next week. A good win should save him. A loss will tighten his noose.

Let's see what they really think about him.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

The players could well be playing for Taylors future next week. A good win should save him. A loss will tighten his noose.

Let's see what they really think about him.

If half the team register in with a doctor's certificate we will have a hint

 

[Fade_To_Black]

From the moment Gallen scored to make it 24-20 I considered it a loss, regardless if we went on to win or not. Would have been yet another game we won while still conceding 20+ plus points. I'm not a fan of 31-30 victories. What it does is tell the opposition that if they hold the ball, they will score enough points against us if we're off with our attack like we were against Parra.

I'd be happy to win 31-30 every week and celebrate the premiership it would bring. To say you would have considered it a loss even if we came back and won after Gallen scored is a ridiculous statement.
Sure it would be nice to win 6-4 every now and again but if we had an attack that was so brilliant and consistant that a "you score 40 and we'll score 41" mentality was winning us games then I don't care how many points we let in.

 

[Fade_To_Black]

Neg reps flying everywhere

I really think some people are overating cronulla though… They're nothing special

100%. With a decent go from the refs we probably would've beaten Cronulla. People are wetting themselves over Parra as well, can't see them producing much if they are there when the whips are cracking,our attack could not have been any worse last week.
One thing the Sharks always produce is a physical effort with plenty of niggle- they have the ability to put teams off their game with that style. They play tough. Maybe that is the result of the 'roids? Who knows. They rarely get stood over physically whereas WT are the snivelly little kids in the schoolyard who get shoved around. Would love to have a Waerea-Hargraves type player in our squad who makes his teammates walk taller when he is around,we still have a very soft underbelly.