Is Poor Officiating Going To End Up In Court

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twentyforty said:
That analogy is close but not really accurate NT.
We were in a sporting contest with referees hired to interpret rules in making judgement calls. The referees made a judgement call which they themselves admitted was an error of judgement.
Can WT be serious about legal action because they didn’t like the refs call?
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I realised that the analogy did not equate as I wrote it.
My main point is; where else can an offending party admit fault in something that negatively affects a lot of people, yet fail to rectify that fault? In our society, errors in judgement regularly result in court cases and jail sentences. They can't just be white washed away.
Part of the issue here is that there were several 'irregularities' with the way the entire situation was refereed both on field and through the involvement of the bunker. It makes people suspicious of the process followed, and has already led to fans accusing the NRL of bias and corruption.
When an NRL employee makes an error in judgement, the NRL simply 'interprets' it away, I.E. 'oh well people make mistakes.' The NRL are a law unto themselves with no independent review possible.
In my view, Wests Tigers management should pursue this as far as legally possible simply to force a public review of a very public error (that was widely assessed as such by several NRL luminaries). Think of it as the Wests Tigers applying the same scrutiny to the NRL's decision making as the bunker applies to WT's play.
 
NT_Tiger said:
I realised that the analogy did not equate as I wrote it.
My main point is; where else can an offending party admit fault in something that negatively affects a lot of people, yet fail to rectify that fault? In our society, errors in judgement regularly result in court cases and jail sentences. They can't just be white washed away.
Part of the issue here is that there were several 'irregularities' with the way the entire situation was refereed both on field and through the involvement of the bunker. It makes people suspicious of the process followed, and has already led to fans accusing the NRL of bias and corruption.
When an NRL employee makes an error in judgement, the NRL simply 'interprets' it away, I.E. 'oh well people make mistakes.' The NRL are a law unto themselves with no independent review possible.
In my view, Wests Tigers management should pursue this as far as legally possible simply to force a public review of a very public error (that was widely assessed as such by several NRL luminaries). Think of it as the Wests Tigers applying the same scrutiny to the NRL's decision making as the bunker applies to WT's play.
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That’s a good point NT, the integrity unit could have a side by side department which investigates and rules on such grievances.
I just had this horrible thought though, could that department become so big and costly that it needs to be closed?
 
twentyforty said:
That analogy is close but not really accurate NT.
We were in a sporting contest with referees hired to interpret rules in making judgement calls. The referees made a judgement call which they themselves admitted was an error of judgement.
Can WT be serious about legal action because they didn’t like the refs call?
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I dont think its the decision by Klein we are challenging. We are Challenging the process and procedures where not followed to get to that decision. The decision as corrupt as it was will simply be human error sorry tigers. If we can prove that the referee, bunker and official timekeepers broke procedure then we have grounds for a legal challenge. If they can prove they didnt break procedures then we have zero to challenge other than human error.
 
Tiger_claws said:
I dont think its the decision by Klein we are challenging. We are Challenging the process and procedures where not followed to get to that decision. The decision as corrupt as it was will simply be human error sorry tigers. If we can prove that the referee, bunker and official timekeepers broke procedure then we have grounds for a legal challenge. If they can prove they didnt break procedures then we have zero to challenge other than human error.
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We have so many bases to complain in that incident, it is not funny.
 
The NRL launch a internal investigation leaving no stone unturned. This report is than handed onto a so called external body called the commission and they do a so called independent review on the report they were given.

How in hell is the commission independent from the NRL????? Mick Stone summed it up to a tee, the biggest smother job in 30 years. Are they worried,no way, it’s just another disaster to sweep under the rug
 
I still don't understand how the Cowboys can challenge a decision that was not made or how the video ref could get involved in a 1 second decision. If Holmes was called offside, they can challenge it and that was that.
 
rihannafan1 said:
I still don't understand how the Cowboys can challenge a decision that was not made or how the video ref could get involved in a 1 second decision. If Holmes was called offside, they can challenge it and that was that.
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Klein seems to have made his own interpretation of the rules up as he kept on digging a hole to bury the presumed "integrity and fairness" of the NRL in.He botched it so badly even his own administration said he was wrong
 
Tiger_claws said:
I dont think its the decision by Klein we are challenging. We are Challenging the process and procedures where not followed to get to that decision. The decision as corrupt as it was will simply be human error sorry tigers. If we can prove that the referee, bunker and official timekeepers broke procedure then we have grounds for a legal challenge. If they can prove they didnt break procedures then we have zero to challenge other than human error.
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We can easily prove based on the nrl rules at the time that process wasn’t followed. You can only challenge a referee decision and there was no decision made. Simple.
 
nrlsurvivor said:
We can easily prove based on the nrl rules at the time that process wasn’t followed. You can only challenge a referee decision and there was no decision made. Simple.
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I like it that Lee is basing his case on the fact that the game was over. Anything else in normal time sets a precedent that could throw the game into turmoil with future legal challenges, but the NRL can live with the "game over" scenario by instructing refs in future to simply look at the clock and blow the long whistle regardless of captains screaming at them, chatter in the earpieces, or other influences. Handling it that way allows the NRL to give us the two points and still save face by ensuring that it will never happen again, with future games all ending by the clock.
 
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