Is there a heartbeat?

mikey

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I was very surprised I watched the whole game (mind you no-one offered to play tiddliewinks with me or teach me how to knit).
I thought we did OK against one of the expected grand finalists. Yes, we were at stages dominated and they did drop lots of ball but Utoikamanu was a standout again, Madden did better than expected, Simpkin is coming along, Liddle made a great break that led to a try, Maumalo was solid, Twal stolid as usual, even Nofo actually made some tackles.
A couple of additions and we could start to climb the slippery slope of NRL success.
 
@mikey said in [Is there a heartbeat?](/post/1457972) said:
I was very surprised I watched the whole game (mind you no-one offered to play tiddliewinks with me or teach me how to knit).
I thought we did OK against one of the expected grand finalists. Yes, we were at stages dominated and they did drop lots of ball but Utoikamanu was a standout again, Madden did better than expected, Simpkin is coming along, Liddle made a great break that led to a try, Maumalo was solid, Twal stolid as usual, even Nofo actually made some tackles.
A couple of additions and we could start to climb the slippery slope of NRL success.

Last sentence is facts.

Been saying it all year.
We can't wait around for the youth to develop.

We need to recruit.
Hard and heavy.

2 centres, second rower, prop, lock.
Need to go to the market and aim to buy & build a team.
 
All we need to do is fix our attacking structures, fix our defensive structures, sign 5 qualify players and then we might make finals 😂
 
@demps said in [Is there a heartbeat?](/post/1457976) said:
@mikey said in [Is there a heartbeat?](/post/1457972) said:
I was very surprised I watched the whole game (mind you no-one offered to play tiddliewinks with me or teach me how to knit).
I thought we did OK against one of the expected grand finalists. Yes, we were at stages dominated and they did drop lots of ball but Utoikamanu was a standout again, Madden did better than expected, Simpkin is coming along, Liddle made a great break that led to a try, Maumalo was solid, Twal stolid as usual, even Nofo actually made some tackles.
A couple of additions and we could start to climb the slippery slope of NRL success.

Last sentence is facts.

Been saying it all year.
We can't wait around for the youth to develop.

We need to recruit.
Hard and heavy.

2 centres, second rower, prop, lock.
Need to go to the market and aim to buy & build a team.

Ivan recruited hard and heavy....where did that get us....
let Madge develop the young guys and buy the odd NRL star to compliment them...Tamou,JTJ,KM. will help develop them...today showed that these guys can compete with the best...they just arent mature enough yet,but its coming...
 
@jc99 said in [Is there a heartbeat?](/post/1457983) said:
All we need to do is fix our attacking structures, fix our defensive structures, sign 5 qualify players and then we might make finals 😂

That’s gold.
Is that all we need to do?
Well why hasn’t someone suggested that to Madge, Hartigan and Co??
 
@truetiger said in [Is there a heartbeat?](/post/1457996) said:
@demps said in [Is there a heartbeat?](/post/1457976) said:
@mikey said in [Is there a heartbeat?](/post/1457972) said:
I was very surprised I watched the whole game (mind you no-one offered to play tiddliewinks with me or teach me how to knit).
I thought we did OK against one of the expected grand finalists. Yes, we were at stages dominated and they did drop lots of ball but Utoikamanu was a standout again, Madden did better than expected, Simpkin is coming along, Liddle made a great break that led to a try, Maumalo was solid, Twal stolid as usual, even Nofo actually made some tackles.
A couple of additions and we could start to climb the slippery slope of NRL success.

Last sentence is facts.

Been saying it all year.
We can't wait around for the youth to develop.

We need to recruit.
Hard and heavy.

2 centres, second rower, prop, lock.
Need to go to the market and aim to buy & build a team.

Ivan recruited hard and heavy....where did that get us....
let Madge develop the young guys and buy the odd NRL star to compliment them...Tamou,JTJ,KM. will help develop them...today showed that these guys can compete with the best...they just arent mature enough yet,but its coming...

I disagree with a lot of this.

Ivan put no thought into his recruits.
Signed his NZ boys and the Dogs halves.
Stupidity at its finest.

We need to sign the right type of guys.

Tamou, Jet, BJ... these guys are duds.

We need to look at players that would improve our team. Pascoe said we haven't tabled any one offers.
Insanity.

Players like Hynes, Mciness and Finucane all signed to sharks and are exactly what we could use to better our team and mentor our youth...

Look TT, I read your posts and you always point out madge is building the team of young men and all that and it may work in 5 years time but we need to build a team for now also.
 
@demps said in [Is there a heartbeat?](/post/1458008) said:
@truetiger said in [Is there a heartbeat?](/post/1457996) said:
@demps said in [Is there a heartbeat?](/post/1457976) said:
@mikey said in [Is there a heartbeat?](/post/1457972) said:
I was very surprised I watched the whole game (mind you no-one offered to play tiddliewinks with me or teach me how to knit).
I thought we did OK against one of the expected grand finalists. Yes, we were at stages dominated and they did drop lots of ball but Utoikamanu was a standout again, Madden did better than expected, Simpkin is coming along, Liddle made a great break that led to a try, Maumalo was solid, Twal stolid as usual, even Nofo actually made some tackles.
A couple of additions and we could start to climb the slippery slope of NRL success.

Last sentence is facts.

Been saying it all year.
We can't wait around for the youth to develop.

We need to recruit.
Hard and heavy.

2 centres, second rower, prop, lock.
Need to go to the market and aim to buy & build a team.

Ivan recruited hard and heavy....where did that get us....
let Madge develop the young guys and buy the odd NRL star to compliment them...Tamou,JTJ,KM. will help develop them...today showed that these guys can compete with the best...they just arent mature enough yet,but its coming...

I disagree with a lot of this.

Ivan put no thought into his recruits.
Signed his NZ boys and the Dogs halves.
Stupidity at its finest.

We need to sign the right type of guys.

Tamou, Jet, BJ... these guys are duds.

We need to look at players that would improve our team. Pascoe said we haven't tabled any one offers.
Insanity.

Players like Hynes, Mciness and Finucane all signed to sharks and are exactly what we could use to better our team and mentor our youth...

Look TT, I read your posts and you always point out madge is building the team of young men and all that and it may work in 5 years time but we need to build a team for now also.

No argument re Tamou, JTJand BJ but like when there's panic buying in a pandemic you buy the paper that will kind of do the job.
Hopefully, post-jab we can get some strong Sorbent.
 
@demps said in [Is there a heartbeat?](/post/1458008) said:
@truetiger said in [Is there a heartbeat?](/post/1457996) said:
@demps said in [Is there a heartbeat?](/post/1457976) said:
@mikey said in [Is there a heartbeat?](/post/1457972) said:
I was very surprised I watched the whole game (mind you no-one offered to play tiddliewinks with me or teach me how to knit).
I thought we did OK against one of the expected grand finalists. Yes, we were at stages dominated and they did drop lots of ball but Utoikamanu was a standout again, Madden did better than expected, Simpkin is coming along, Liddle made a great break that led to a try, Maumalo was solid, Twal stolid as usual, even Nofo actually made some tackles.
A couple of additions and we could start to climb the slippery slope of NRL success.

Last sentence is facts.

Been saying it all year.
We can't wait around for the youth to develop.

We need to recruit.
Hard and heavy.

2 centres, second rower, prop, lock.
Need to go to the market and aim to buy & build a team.

Ivan recruited hard and heavy....where did that get us....
let Madge develop the young guys and buy the odd NRL star to compliment them...Tamou,JTJ,KM. will help develop them...today showed that these guys can compete with the best...they just arent mature enough yet,but its coming...

I disagree with a lot of this.

Ivan put no thought into his recruits.
Signed his NZ boys and the Dogs halves.
Stupidity at its finest.

We need to sign the right type of guys.

Tamou, Jet, BJ... these guys are duds.

We need to look at players that would improve our team. Pascoe said we haven't tabled any one offers.
Insanity.

Players like Hynes, Mciness and Finucane all signed to sharks and are exactly what we could use to better our team and mentor our youth...

Look TT, I read your posts and you always point out madge is building the team of young men and all that and it may work in 5 years time but we need to build a team for now also.

Ok lets take your scenario....Madge came here with an absolutely trashed cap...thanks Ivan...
Madge and Hartigan plan to re establish our junior pathways...well done...
Madge recruited some hardened NRL players,Tamou,JTJ,BJ and made Mbye a utility to cover many positions we could not afford to fulfil...smart business...
Our young guys are learning NRL and when the players of substantial quality come along Im willing to bet Madge/Hartigan will pounce....
we are setting a new and invigourated platform for the future ...patience is needed and we will have success...
 
If I had a dollar for every time someone suggested a game was a turning point, I’d be rich. Don’t fool yourselves. And I say that as pretty much the only person in the predication thread that thought we would compete. That’s who this club is. They always come out and a have a go in games they look like getting blown out. Then we all feel good and proud till they come out the next week and roll over against a weak team. 2022 is going to be a long long year, with the odd bright spot that gives us some hope. Per usual.
 
@truetiger said in [Is there a heartbeat?](/post/1458024) said:
@demps said in [Is there a heartbeat?](/post/1458008) said:
@truetiger said in [Is there a heartbeat?](/post/1457996) said:
@demps said in [Is there a heartbeat?](/post/1457976) said:
@mikey said in [Is there a heartbeat?](/post/1457972) said:
I was very surprised I watched the whole game (mind you no-one offered to play tiddliewinks with me or teach me how to knit).
I thought we did OK against one of the expected grand finalists. Yes, we were at stages dominated and they did drop lots of ball but Utoikamanu was a standout again, Madden did better than expected, Simpkin is coming along, Liddle made a great break that led to a try, Maumalo was solid, Twal stolid as usual, even Nofo actually made some tackles.
A couple of additions and we could start to climb the slippery slope of NRL success.

Last sentence is facts.

Been saying it all year.
We can't wait around for the youth to develop.

We need to recruit.
Hard and heavy.

2 centres, second rower, prop, lock.
Need to go to the market and aim to buy & build a team.

Ivan recruited hard and heavy....where did that get us....
let Madge develop the young guys and buy the odd NRL star to compliment them...Tamou,JTJ,KM. will help develop them...today showed that these guys can compete with the best...they just arent mature enough yet,but its coming...

I disagree with a lot of this.

Ivan put no thought into his recruits.
Signed his NZ boys and the Dogs halves.
Stupidity at its finest.

We need to sign the right type of guys.

Tamou, Jet, BJ... these guys are duds.

We need to look at players that would improve our team. Pascoe said we haven't tabled any one offers.
Insanity.

Players like Hynes, Mciness and Finucane all signed to sharks and are exactly what we could use to better our team and mentor our youth...

Look TT, I read your posts and you always point out madge is building the team of young men and all that and it may work in 5 years time but we need to build a team for now also.

Ok lets take your scenario....Madge came here with an absolutely trashed cap...thanks Ivan...
Madge and Hartigan plan to re establish our junior pathways...well done...
Madge recruited some hardened NRL players,Tamou,JTJ,BJ and made Mbye a utility to cover many positions we could not afford to fulfil...smart business...
Our young guys are learning NRL and when the players of substantial quality come along Im willing to bet Madge/Hartigan will pounce....
we are setting a new and invigourated platform for the future ...patience is needed and we will have success...

Yeah indeed, that's all true...

I'm on board with the developing the youth stuff but we've got money to spend and positions that need strengthening.

Pascoes happy to wait around until something presents its self. We need to be more aggressive.... strike first, strike hard.

Hynes is a perfect player and could've played centre for us.
McIness, perfect 13 for us.
Dale, hard nosed forward to mentor our young guns.

We didn't didn't try and make it happen.

Now we've got average centres for 2022
No lock and we're short some talent for our pack.

That being said, a lot can happen over the next few months.
 
Check next week. Good performance against a premiership favourite but, based on out clubs DNA, more than likely to be followed by a loss to the dogs next week
 
@gcfan said in [Is there a heartbeat?](/post/1458007) said:
@jc99 said in [Is there a heartbeat?](/post/1457983) said:
All we need to do is fix our attacking structures, fix our defensive structures, sign 5 qualify players and then we might make finals ?

That’s gold.
Is that all we need to do?
Well why hasn’t someone suggested that to Madge, Hartigan and Co??

Hahaha it's sad but true, we lack in all areas
 
@demps said in [Is there a heartbeat?](/post/1458008) said:
@truetiger said in [Is there a heartbeat?](/post/1457996) said:
@demps said in [Is there a heartbeat?](/post/1457976) said:
@mikey said in [Is there a heartbeat?](/post/1457972) said:
I was very surprised I watched the whole game (mind you no-one offered to play tiddliewinks with me or teach me how to knit).
I thought we did OK against one of the expected grand finalists. Yes, we were at stages dominated and they did drop lots of ball but Utoikamanu was a standout again, Madden did better than expected, Simpkin is coming along, Liddle made a great break that led to a try, Maumalo was solid, Twal stolid as usual, even Nofo actually made some tackles.
A couple of additions and we could start to climb the slippery slope of NRL success.

Last sentence is facts.

Been saying it all year.
We can't wait around for the youth to develop.

We need to recruit.
Hard and heavy.

2 centres, second rower, prop, lock.
Need to go to the market and aim to buy & build a team.

Ivan recruited hard and heavy....where did that get us....
let Madge develop the young guys and buy the odd NRL star to compliment them...Tamou,JTJ,KM. will help develop them...today showed that these guys can compete with the best...they just arent mature enough yet,but its coming...

I disagree with a lot of this.

Ivan put no thought into his recruits.
Signed his NZ boys and the Dogs halves.
Stupidity at its finest.

We need to sign the right type of guys.

Tamou, Jet, BJ... these guys are duds.

We need to look at players that would improve our team. Pascoe said we haven't tabled any one offers.
Insanity.

Players like Hynes, Mciness and Finucane all signed to sharks and are exactly what we could use to better our team and mentor our youth...

Look TT, I read your posts and you always point out madge is building the team of young men and all that and it may work in 5 years time but we need to build a team for now also.

100% we need to build for now. If this club doesn’t progress for 2-3 years, all these youth players we’ve heavily invested in will be out the door and then we’re back to square one. It’s too easy and tbh ignorant to say we just need to plan for 3-4 years
 
Definitely a heartbeat, but still need reinforcements.

Stef and Blore need to be upgraded and extended to ward off the managers and clubs that will come knocking soon.

I thought Mikaele had his best game and can't recall an error. I think he is best suited coming off the bench, he adds a real spark. Need another prop to start with Stef. Thompson at a reasonable $$$would be great.

Maumalo has been a real pro and a great pick up. Noffa took 2 steps forward today in defense, but 2 steps back with sloppy attack. Needs a good preseason of could be dropped again.

I'm concerned with LL, really plataued. Can't recall his last barn storming run and lateral defense is really bad. Shouldn't be playing 80.

Our spine is still confusing and amongst worst in the comp. Douhi is a central and will come back from 2nd acl even slower. Has footy smarts.
Laurie had a great first year and is safe. Not sure he is a fullback though. Not blinding fast, strong or elusive. Maybe a 5\8?
Brooks needs a change of scenery, so maybe hastings and Laurie in halves and find a fullback? No idea who.

Hookers are similar players. Probably best to play both but madge always seems to leave Liddle out there 5 min too long. Can't play 80 but is only taken off when he is exhausted and makes a poor error.

Centre's are a problem. No strike or pace and could use an upgrade. Will be Douhi and TT, but hopefully Gildart is up to it but pommy centre's rarely work out.

We have some good talent coming through. Problem is we don't really have time to let them develop. Need reinforcements or the media and agents will pressure the talent to move on.
 
@tigercrb said in [Is there a heartbeat?](/post/1458081) said:
Definitely a heartbeat, but still need reinforcements.

Stef and Blore need to be upgraded and extended to ward off the managers and clubs that will come knocking soon.

I thought Mikaele had his best game and can't recall an error. I think he is best suited coming off the bench, he adds a real spark. Need another prop to start with Stef. Thompson at a reasonable $$$would be great.

Maumalo has been a real pro and a great pick up. Noffa took 2 steps forward today in defense, but 2 steps back with sloppy attack. Needs a good preseason of could be dropped again.

I'm concerned with LL, really plataued. Can't recall his last barn storming run and lateral defense is really bad. Shouldn't be playing 80.

Our spine is still confusing and amongst worst in the comp. Douhi is a central and will come back from 2nd acl even slower. Has footy smarts.
Laurie had a great first year and is safe. Not sure he is a fullback though. Not blinding fast, strong or elusive. Maybe a 5\8?
Brooks needs a change of scenery, so maybe hastings and Laurie in halves and find a fullback? No idea who.

Hookers are similar players. Probably best to play both but madge always seems to leave Liddle out there 5 min too long. Can't play 80 but is only taken off when he is exhausted and makes a poor error.

Centre's are a problem. No strike or pace and could use an upgrade. Will be Douhi and TT, but hopefully Gildart is up to it but pommy centre's rarely work out.

We have some good talent coming through. Problem is we don't really have time to let them develop. Need reinforcements or the media and agents will pressure the talent to move on.

Agree on everything besides Brooks. Needs to stay and partner with madden. Madden could be the kicking game we've lacked. Douhi to centre
 
@kratos said in [Is there a heartbeat?](/post/1458118) said:
@tigercrb said in [Is there a heartbeat?](/post/1458081) said:
Definitely a heartbeat, but still need reinforcements.

Stef and Blore need to be upgraded and extended to ward off the managers and clubs that will come knocking soon.

I thought Mikaele had his best game and can't recall an error. I think he is best suited coming off the bench, he adds a real spark. Need another prop to start with Stef. Thompson at a reasonable $$$would be great.

Maumalo has been a real pro and a great pick up. Noffa took 2 steps forward today in defense, but 2 steps back with sloppy attack. Needs a good preseason of could be dropped again.

I'm concerned with LL, really plataued. Can't recall his last barn storming run and lateral defense is really bad. Shouldn't be playing 80.

Our spine is still confusing and amongst worst in the comp. Douhi is a central and will come back from 2nd acl even slower. Has footy smarts.
Laurie had a great first year and is safe. Not sure he is a fullback though. Not blinding fast, strong or elusive. Maybe a 5\8?
Brooks needs a change of scenery, so maybe hastings and Laurie in halves and find a fullback? No idea who.

Hookers are similar players. Probably best to play both but madge always seems to leave Liddle out there 5 min too long. Can't play 80 but is only taken off when he is exhausted and makes a poor error.

Centre's are a problem. No strike or pace and could use an upgrade. Will be Douhi and TT, but hopefully Gildart is up to it but pommy centre's rarely work out.

We have some good talent coming through. Problem is we don't really have time to let them develop. Need reinforcements or the media and agents will pressure the talent to move on.

Agree on everything besides Brooks. Needs to stay and partner with madden. Madden could be the kicking game we've lacked. Douhi to centre

Bad news for you...

Catching up on the footage.

Brooks was outplayed by Madden.

What's his excuse today?
He didn't trust his halves partner?

Brooks cannot stay at this club and expect success for himself or the team.
Is the cold hard reality.

He's worn out his welcome, much like Pearce did at the roosters and it's time for a new start and our club to go a different direction.
 
@kratos said in [Is there a heartbeat?](/post/1458118) said:
@tigercrb said in [Is there a heartbeat?](/post/1458081) said:
Definitely a heartbeat, but still need reinforcements.

Stef and Blore need to be upgraded and extended to ward off the managers and clubs that will come knocking soon.

I thought Mikaele had his best game and can't recall an error. I think he is best suited coming off the bench, he adds a real spark. Need another prop to start with Stef. Thompson at a reasonable $$$would be great.

Maumalo has been a real pro and a great pick up. Noffa took 2 steps forward today in defense, but 2 steps back with sloppy attack. Needs a good preseason of could be dropped again.

I'm concerned with LL, really plataued. Can't recall his last barn storming run and lateral defense is really bad. Shouldn't be playing 80.

Our spine is still confusing and amongst worst in the comp. Douhi is a central and will come back from 2nd acl even slower. Has footy smarts.
Laurie had a great first year and is safe. Not sure he is a fullback though. Not blinding fast, strong or elusive. Maybe a 5\8?
Brooks needs a change of scenery, so maybe hastings and Laurie in halves and find a fullback? No idea who.

Hookers are similar players. Probably best to play both but madge always seems to leave Liddle out there 5 min too long. Can't play 80 but is only taken off when he is exhausted and makes a poor error.

Centre's are a problem. No strike or pace and could use an upgrade. Will be Douhi and TT, but hopefully Gildart is up to it but pommy centre's rarely work out.

We have some good talent coming through. Problem is we don't really have time to let them develop. Need reinforcements or the media and agents will pressure the talent to move on.

Agree on everything besides Brooks. Needs to stay and partner with madden. Madden could be the kicking game we've lacked. Douhi to centre

I'm a fan of Brooks. Strong defense, sharp runner, loyal and durable. He is a whipping boy on here and feel he has been let down a little by the club. Constant coach and structure changes.

I just feel at this stage, it might be best for both parties for a change. I think he could thrive in a better team. I often look at the Canberra halves and think imagine how good Brooks would be in that side? Strong pack, good hooker and strike back rowers and centre's.
 
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