Isaac Moses *Megathread*

If people think this is his real burner maybe they should be concerned that the account also said that TDS was looking to sign with the Dragons. But in my opinion it’s just a troll account from a random with nothing better to do
 
lol ,so all our players n up n comers that we aren't shopping want out,with no suitable replacement in the nrl available ,because their still under contract ,smh lol,social media is a cesspit of innuendo.In my endo ,no thanks just the tip on the outside for titillation then im of home for dinner
 
SMH article on the background of Isaac Moses, manager of current Wests Tigers players Galvin, Sukkar, Tumeth and pathways players including Pheonix Godinet & Cayne Nicholas.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/wh...uch-influence-on-the-nrl-20250415-p5lrsv.html

At a time when the influence of NRL player managers is again in the spotlight, there is none more powerful than Isaac Moses.

Upon graduating from Parramatta Marist High School, Moses worked at ANZ Stadium in membership under Todd Greenberg, the future chief executive of the NRL and then Cricket Australia. Moses then moved into player management, initially with other established agents, before branching out on his own.

Why does Moses wield so much influence?

Moses’ Cove Agency manages some of the NRL’s biggest names, from established stars Mitchell Moses and Luke Brooks to young guns Lachlan Galvin and Blaize Talagi. He also has a slew of head coaches – including Newcastle’s Adam O’Brien, St George Illawarra’s Shane Flanagan, Manly’s Anthony Seibold, New Zealand’s Andrew Webster and North Queensland’s Todd Payten – on his books.

Why is Moses a controversial figure?

Moses was one of the agents banned for six months for his role in the Melbourne Storm salary cap scandal. He was then deregistered for breaching his obligations as an agent in 2017, in relation to an investigation the NRL conducted into the Parramatta Eels. Banned for the latter incident in 2021, he was allowed to return to the game 18 months later.

In clubland, Moses is a controversial figure. Some clubs – such as the Roosters – refuse to deal with him whatsoever. At others, he is accused of manipulating rosters by funnelling clients to teams where he also manages the coach.

The NRL has previously indicated it may end the practice of allowing managers to have players and coaches on their books to avoid potential conflicts of interest, but no changes have been made.

Does he strike a good deal for his clients?

In a word, yes. A shrewd and ruthless negotiator, Moses has brokered some of the biggest deals across multiple codes. Think Israel Folau’s switches from league to AFL and then to rugby. And then there’s Joseph-Aukuso Suaalii’s cross-code journey from the Roosters to rugby, worth in excess of $5 million over three years.

Even when he was suspended, the majority of his clients remained loyal and didn’t jump ship.

Why are some clubs wary of Moses?

Wests Tigers are furious that Moses wouldn’t even entertain their offer to extend Lachlan Galvin, who has indicated he will leave the club when his contract expires at the end of 2026.

The Tigers have been here before; Moses previously managed the “Big Four” of James Tedesco, Luke Brooks, Aaron Woods and Mitchell Moses when they were at the club and off contract at the same time. Only Brooks re-signed.

Roosters chairman Nick Politis lobbied ARLC chair Peter V’landys to allow Moses to regain his accreditation. After Moses returned, Politis felt he was blindsided by Suaalii’s defection to rugby and has since refused to deal with the agent.

Famous feud

Isaac Moses famously fell out with associate Joe Wehbe, a property developer known in NRL circles as the “Football Whisperer”. While Wehbe is not an accredited agent, he is linked to a rival agency, Ignite Sports.

Some of the Moses clients who turned to Wehbe for advice, including James Tedesco and Nathan Brown, left Cove for Ignite. Others, like Eels halfback Mitchell Moses – who is Isaac Moses’ cousin – stayed loyal to Cove.

Several clubs – including the Sea Eagles, Cowboys, Warriors and Knights – have been criticised for falling under Moses’ spell. Sensitive to the criticism, in mid-2023 the Sea Eagles took the extraordinary step of publicly releasing a list with managers who had players contracted to the club.

Manly had five Moses players at the time. Other clubs have been careful not to have more than a sprinkling of Moses clients at any one time, fearing it would give the agent too much influence over the club.
 
An article from 2017;

The National Rugby League (NRL) has today announced the conclusion of disciplinary proceedings against Mr Isaac Moses in relation to his accreditation as an NRL player agent.

Following the conclusion of this process the NRL has determined that Mr Moses’ accreditation as an NRL player agent should be cancelled.

The NRL found that Mr Moses breached his obligations as an Accredited Agent in 2017 by procuring and assisting one of his clients, Mr Tim Mannah, to give evidence to the NRL that was false and intended to mislead an investigation of the NRL Integrity & Compliance Unit.

The determination found that Mr Moses’ conduct was in breach of the rules that govern the conduct of NRL player agents.

"Player agents have a very influential role in the game and with the players they represent. Where agents fail to adhere to the standards expected of them, we will intervene to take action under the NRL Rules. That is what we have done in this case after a thorough investigation by the League’s Integrity & Compliance Unit," said NRL Interim CEO, Andrew Abdo.

Under the NRL Rules, Mr Moses has the right to apply to appeal the determination to the independent Appeals Committee. The cancellation of Mr Moses registration will not take effect pending confirmation of any appeal. This means that if leave to appeal is granted his accreditation will continue to be recognised until notified by the NRL.
 
Anyone know the history between Moses & Benji? Apparently something happened between them years ago but not even Weidler & co can find out what.
 
Do we recall what was the false evidence Mannah gave to the NRL...what it was all about?

Just goes to show the influence this grub (Moses) has over people, I always thought Tim Mannah was a straight up good bloke
 
innsaneink said:
Do we recall what was the false evidence Mannah gave to the NRL...what it was all about?

Just goes to show the influence this grub (Moses) has over people, I always thought Tim Mannah was a straight up good
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In June 2020, an NRL statement on the issue read: “Mr Moses breached his obligations as an accredited agent in 2017 by procuring and assisting one of his clients, Mr Tim Mannah, to give evidence to the NRL that was false and intended to mislead an investigation of the NRL Integrity and Compliance Unit.”

Diving a little deeper, the Sydney Morning Herald reported that same day: “Sources with knowledge of the investigation told the Herald that Mannah, when interviewed in 2017, denied he had received third-party deals during a certain period at [Parramatta Eels].

“Mannah, who has since fallen out with Moses, approached the Integrity Unit last year during his final season in the game and came clean with the story of how he had been asked by Moses to mislead the governing body in his previous interview.”
 
Twice convicted of having a part to play in the salary cap rorting with Melbourne and Parramatta says a lot about the integrity of his deals. He would have known of how the payments were being funneled.

The NRL should never have allowed him back and whilst the Roosters want to claim the moral high ground stating they don't want to deal with him now, their Chairman supported his return to accreditation right up until he did the dirty on them.

You could see on NRL360 they all knew Moses way of operating, whereas 100% Footy had Cam Smith stick up for his former manager and pushing for Galvin to be released. Make him #18 for 18 months
 
BlackWhiteGold said:
SMH article on the background of Isaac Moses, manager of current Wests Tigers players Galvin, Sukkar, Tumeth and pathways players including Pheonix Godinet & Cayne Nicholas.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/wh...uch-influence-on-the-nrl-20250415-p5lrsv.html

At a time when the influence of NRL player managers is again in the spotlight, there is none more powerful than Isaac Moses.

Upon graduating from Parramatta Marist High School, Moses worked at ANZ Stadium in membership under Todd Greenberg, the future chief executive of the NRL and then Cricket Australia. Moses then moved into player management, initially with other established agents, before branching out on his own.

Why does Moses wield so much influence?

Moses’ Cove Agency manages some of the NRL’s biggest names, from established stars Mitchell Moses and Luke Brooks to young guns Lachlan Galvin and Blaize Talagi. He also has a slew of head coaches – including Newcastle’s Adam O’Brien, St George Illawarra’s Shane Flanagan, Manly’s Anthony Seibold, New Zealand’s Andrew Webster and North Queensland’s Todd Payten – on his books.

Why is Moses a controversial figure?

Moses was one of the agents banned for six months for his role in the Melbourne Storm salary cap scandal. He was then deregistered for breaching his obligations as an agent in 2017, in relation to an investigation the NRL conducted into the Parramatta Eels. Banned for the latter incident in 2021, he was allowed to return to the game 18 months later.

In clubland, Moses is a controversial figure. Some clubs – such as the Roosters – refuse to deal with him whatsoever. At others, he is accused of manipulating rosters by funnelling clients to teams where he also manages the coach.

The NRL has previously indicated it may end the practice of allowing managers to have players and coaches on their books to avoid potential conflicts of interest, but no changes have been made.

Does he strike a good deal for his clients?

In a word, yes. A shrewd and ruthless negotiator, Moses has brokered some of the biggest deals across multiple codes. Think Israel Folau’s switches from league to AFL and then to rugby. And then there’s Joseph-Aukuso Suaalii’s cross-code journey from the Roosters to rugby, worth in excess of $5 million over three years.

Even when he was suspended, the majority of his clients remained loyal and didn’t jump ship.

Why are some clubs wary of Moses?

Wests Tigers are furious that Moses wouldn’t even entertain their offer to extend Lachlan Galvin, who has indicated he will leave the club when his contract expires at the end of 2026.

The Tigers have been here before; Moses previously managed the “Big Four” of James Tedesco, Luke Brooks, Aaron Woods and Mitchell Moses when they were at the club and off contract at the same time. Only Brooks re-signed.

Roosters chairman Nick Politis lobbied ARLC chair Peter V’landys to allow Moses to regain his accreditation. After Moses returned, Politis felt he was blindsided by Suaalii’s defection to rugby and has since refused to deal with the agent.

Famous feud

Isaac Moses famously fell out with associate Joe Wehbe, a property developer known in NRL circles as the “Football Whisperer”. While Wehbe is not an accredited agent, he is linked to a rival agency, Ignite Sports.

Some of the Moses clients who turned to Wehbe for advice, including James Tedesco and Nathan Brown, left Cove for Ignite. Others, like Eels halfback Mitchell Moses – who is Isaac Moses’ cousin – stayed loyal to Cove.

Several clubs – including the Sea Eagles, Cowboys, Warriors and Knights – have been criticised for falling under Moses’ spell. Sensitive to the criticism, in mid-2023 the Sea Eagles took the extraordinary step of publicly releasing a list with managers who had players contracted to the club.

Manly had five Moses players at the time. Other clubs have been careful not to have more than a sprinkling of Moses clients at any one time, fearing it would give the agent too much influence over the club.
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Benj is our coach, and long may that be the case, however if we ever had to go looking, you would never appoint a Moses managed coach.
 
Roosters have done it, time for the Tigers to do it. Zero interactions with Moses going forward. Few more clubs should do it that have been screwed over by him and its untenable to be a manger when you can only get a deal with half the comp. Weed him out of the game. I cant believe after the big 4 bullshit he created they still let him swan around the club with his players like he owns the joint.
 
I think when you even have Buzz Rothfield coming out and questioning your integrity, is when you need to take a long hard look at yourself. Moses is lucky in the sense that the NRL hasn't got a transfer window, which gives him so much disproportionate bargaining power.

The annoying thing about this is just how much of being claimed by Gavin's is manifestly wrong and just doesn't stack up.. Like it's willfully and harmfully full of sh1t. It's 100% anti Wests Tigers. And that's what is unacceptable.

It hurts to say it, but playing at our club as young players did little to harm the development of Tedesco and Moses. (and others) 2 big clubs built their last decade of football around those players. The claim that you can't grow as a player at this club at the age of 19 is utter nonsense. We are the gold standard for making great players. (just not keeping them).

So there isn't even the old cynical, mercenary approach that we've seen from Moses led players before. Their camp is basically saying that even with Luai, Api, May, Richo and Benji... that there is zero chance of the club being any good in the future. Zero. The kids been made to say things and act in a way totally detached from the truth. It'll haunt his career.
 
360 claim that the Benji & Isaac Moses beef relates to the departures of Klemmer and Bateman.

Isaac didn't like how it was handled.

Seems trivial & surely there is more to the story.
It's time we put some curriculum in our education training for young players on how to pick the right agents and who to avoid, steering them away from Isaac Moses. So we can avoid further dealings with this joker.
 
Demps said:
360 claim that the Benji & Isaac Moses beef relates to the departures of Klemmer and Bateman.

Isaac didn't like how it was handled.

Seems trivial & surely there is more to the story.
It's time we put some curriculum in our education training for young players on how to pick the right agents and who to avoid, steering them away from Isaac Moses. So we can avoid further dealings with this joker.
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The more clubs/people that steer clear of him, the less power he has.
 
Buttface said:
The more clubs/people that steer clear of him, the less power he has.
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How's he the most powerful player agent in the NRL as well as the most hated?

All the hosts and guests on the shows last night including Tim Mannah & Braith, didn't really want to say how they really feel.
 
Demps said:
How's he the most powerful player agent in the NRL as well as the most hated?

All the hosts and guests on the shows last night including Tim Mannah & Braith, didn't really want to say how they really feel.
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Is he still Mannahs agent?
You’d think Tim would Be sick of his shit on his shoe.
 
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