It is time for SHEENS to go.
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tiger4ever
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Good work kronic most people i know outside of this forum agree.
Isnt that saying something about the guys on here.
Isnt that saying something about the guys on here.
Why not give him a Rolls Royce in Tigers colours and put him on a pension for life after he leaves as well?
What you are all forgetting is it is HIS DECISION to stay or go.
The Tigers haven't given him the boot - if he wants the extra dough he will go.
If he loves the club more than the money he will stay.
It won't be easy - you are talking about $300,000 extra a year over 4 years
And Benji won't be going anywhere - he signed a 5 year deal and has said he'll stay no matter what.
What you are all forgetting is it is HIS DECISION to stay or go.
The Tigers haven't given him the boot - if he wants the extra dough he will go.
If he loves the club more than the money he will stay.
It won't be easy - you are talking about $300,000 extra a year over 4 years
And Benji won't be going anywhere - he signed a 5 year deal and has said he'll stay no matter what.
Joel Helmes
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WESTS Tigers superstar Benji Marshall is tipping Tim Sheens to stay a Tiger – with the 60-year-old coaching veteran expected to make a decision on his future today.
Sheens has been offered $2.5 million over four years to switch to Penrith but Marshall last night said he was confident the four-time premiership-winning coach won't be going anywhere.
"Tim gives us the respect when we go through our contract negotiations that he doesn't ask many questions. We have to give him that respect back," Marshall told The Footy Show last night. "Personally I think he will stay."
The Tigers are hoping Sheens' loyalty to his players will be enough to see him turn his back on Penrith's money.
Marshall is not the only Tiger confident the coach won't leave.
Chief executive Stephen Humphreys was refusing to speculate on the terms of the final offer made to the off-contract coach but indicated the club hoped Sheens' friendships with players would be significant in his final decision.
It's been well documented Sheens has a particularly close relationship with Marshall, who has played his entire career under Sheens at the Tigers.
Marshall no longer has a get-out clause in his contract that would allow him to leave the club if Sheens was to move on.
"I'm on contract for five years," Marshall added last night. "I'm going nowhere."
But Brad Fittler said his gut feeling was that Sheens was heading back to Penrith.
"I've got a feeling he will go," Fittler told The Footy Show.
Sheens will go into camp with the Australian Test team on Sunday night following the Tigers' match against Canberra.
The coach and club agree the announcement should come before he heads off with the Kangaroos.
"I won't be drawn on any of the details of our offer," Humphreys said.
"Tim has invested a lot of himself in our club and our playing group and he now has an important decision to make on where he wants to be and who he wants to coach over the next period of his career.
"We expect him to make that decision in the next day or so."
Sheens was scheduled to front a media conference yesterday morning but instead sent his assistant Peter Gentle to front the media.
Skipper Robbie Farah said he hoped Sheens would stay but was calling for a quick decision.
Early yesterday there was mounting speculation Sheens was ready to leave.
Some club insiders were tipping Ricky Stuart would emerge as the frontrunner for the vacant job at the Tigers.
A clearly frustrated Stuart said he had not spoken to the Tigers, adding his only focus was preparing for the upcoming Origin series.
"I have no other focus outside Origin," Stuart said.
"I am 100 per cent focused on doing my job with NSW and I will not allow any outside distractions to get in the way
of this.
"That I will guarantee you."
Stuart's manager John Fordham was equally bemused by the rumours linking Stuart to the Tigers.
"I am certainly not in any discussion with the Tigers," Fordham said.
"Not only the Tigers, we are not in discussions with any NRL club. Ricky is completely and utterly focused on Origin."
Panthers captain Petero Civoniceva said the Penrith players were still in the dark.
"I am probably the last bloke that will get told," Civoniceva told The Daily Telegraph.
"I don't know and to be honest I don't really care because my focus has got to be on the footy."
Civoniceva said the players felt for outgoing coach Matthew Elliott but said Elliott had personally promised he would not quit before the season's end.
"Matty has given me his word he is going to give it his all and we will do the same."
When asked his thoughts on Sheens' possible move to Penrith, Civoniceva said: "What can you say, his record speaks for itself.
"He has had such a decorated career as a coach.
"But I just don't want to make any other comment. I have Matty Elliott [still] here – I can't imagine how tough this whole situation is for Matty."
Sheens has been offered $2.5 million over four years to switch to Penrith but Marshall last night said he was confident the four-time premiership-winning coach won't be going anywhere.
"Tim gives us the respect when we go through our contract negotiations that he doesn't ask many questions. We have to give him that respect back," Marshall told The Footy Show last night. "Personally I think he will stay."
The Tigers are hoping Sheens' loyalty to his players will be enough to see him turn his back on Penrith's money.
Marshall is not the only Tiger confident the coach won't leave.
Chief executive Stephen Humphreys was refusing to speculate on the terms of the final offer made to the off-contract coach but indicated the club hoped Sheens' friendships with players would be significant in his final decision.
It's been well documented Sheens has a particularly close relationship with Marshall, who has played his entire career under Sheens at the Tigers.
Marshall no longer has a get-out clause in his contract that would allow him to leave the club if Sheens was to move on.
"I'm on contract for five years," Marshall added last night. "I'm going nowhere."
But Brad Fittler said his gut feeling was that Sheens was heading back to Penrith.
"I've got a feeling he will go," Fittler told The Footy Show.
Sheens will go into camp with the Australian Test team on Sunday night following the Tigers' match against Canberra.
The coach and club agree the announcement should come before he heads off with the Kangaroos.
"I won't be drawn on any of the details of our offer," Humphreys said.
"Tim has invested a lot of himself in our club and our playing group and he now has an important decision to make on where he wants to be and who he wants to coach over the next period of his career.
"We expect him to make that decision in the next day or so."
Sheens was scheduled to front a media conference yesterday morning but instead sent his assistant Peter Gentle to front the media.
Skipper Robbie Farah said he hoped Sheens would stay but was calling for a quick decision.
Early yesterday there was mounting speculation Sheens was ready to leave.
Some club insiders were tipping Ricky Stuart would emerge as the frontrunner for the vacant job at the Tigers.
A clearly frustrated Stuart said he had not spoken to the Tigers, adding his only focus was preparing for the upcoming Origin series.
"I have no other focus outside Origin," Stuart said.
"I am 100 per cent focused on doing my job with NSW and I will not allow any outside distractions to get in the way
of this.
"That I will guarantee you."
Stuart's manager John Fordham was equally bemused by the rumours linking Stuart to the Tigers.
"I am certainly not in any discussion with the Tigers," Fordham said.
"Not only the Tigers, we are not in discussions with any NRL club. Ricky is completely and utterly focused on Origin."
Panthers captain Petero Civoniceva said the Penrith players were still in the dark.
"I am probably the last bloke that will get told," Civoniceva told The Daily Telegraph.
"I don't know and to be honest I don't really care because my focus has got to be on the footy."
Civoniceva said the players felt for outgoing coach Matthew Elliott but said Elliott had personally promised he would not quit before the season's end.
"Matty has given me his word he is going to give it his all and we will do the same."
When asked his thoughts on Sheens' possible move to Penrith, Civoniceva said: "What can you say, his record speaks for itself.
"He has had such a decorated career as a coach.
"But I just don't want to make any other comment. I have Matty Elliott [still] here – I can't imagine how tough this whole situation is for Matty."
tiger_tigers
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@Golden said:
benji is a great player, and all that stuff … but if sheens left and benji wanted out , then seeya later benji...do some of you people think our club is one man or one player ......sheens has only been offered 2 years by our board... so is benji leaving us in two years ... sheens has won us 1 comp .....and for that ill never forget... but big deal if a player wants to leave just because the coach wants to leave......yeah yeah typical rant by tiger tigers ,,, but i love my football and im tired of seeing the same crap dished out year to year ....
if sheens stays then ill live with it without a drama...... but he will retire one day........
glebe_tiger
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@tiger tigers said:
are u kidding me? u would let benji go just like that? he is a once in a generation player current golden boot winner, best still in front of him. marshall should be kept at nearly all costs. if we lost marshall we would be nobodies for a very longtime. sure we have some great halves coming through but he would leave a massive hole in our attack and pulling power to the club. big fear now if sheens goes is the players he will take with him, the speculation of some players already doesnt look good.
hybrid_tiger
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Marshall is not going anywhere, god people are overreacting.
Sheens is ONE PERSON who is not bigger than the club. The club will not suddenly collapse if he leaves.
Sheens is ONE PERSON who is not bigger than the club. The club will not suddenly collapse if he leaves.
clontarfkid
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@innsaneink said:
Exactly.
Im really not sure after 9 years whether Sheens is or isnt a good coach,which is quite surprising in itself.He sure aint a Bellamy or a Bennett,I do know that.Suspect he's run of the mill with an excellent media presence
And I also know the whole place is stale,the players rarely respond to him,& Sheens wld do everyone a favor(most particularly himself)if he started fresh eslewhere
Anything BUT another 4 years ….aaargh! :deadhorse:
ragedmachine
New member
Any news?!?!! would the writing be on the wall due to this delay?
tiger_tigers
New member
@hybrid_tiger said:
that was the point i was trying to make ….of course i dont to lose the messiah ....i was just trying to point out there will be life after sheens if he leaves .....
happy_tiger
Well-known member
@tiger tigers said:
"He is not the Messiah he just a very naughty boy" Sorry. Any chance to throw in a bit of Monty Python
Joel Helmes
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Was the deadline 5pm?
tiger4ever
Active member
@hybrid_tiger said:
Well by that then if benji left so be it ah.
Anyway im sure they will be both staying.lol
@tiger4ever said:
Don't criticize the forum mate, its a cross section of Tigers supporters, if ther is alot of anti-Sheens feeling on here, guess what, there must be alot of anti-sheens sentiment in our supporters as a whole.
I'm not fussed. I think Sheens is a great coach, he has done some great things at our club and has manufactured alot of players. He also has some unusual philosophies I don't agree with (bnech rotation and choices, Motlzen at fullback, the Morris halfback debacle, Farah as a 7, etc.)
Do I think its time for the club to move on, see if it can stand on it own two feet? Yes. He came to us and we were nothing, a lazy club that had potential but was still affected by Magpies vs Balmain. Now we are the most popular Sydney team, have a proffessional culture and are more known for our attacking football than the Balmain/Wests venture.
We're turning 11, time to grow up into our teen years and stop being fathered by Sheens. If he stays though, it is just delaying that break, and I guess thats OK too.
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@kronic said:
8 years :roll
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