IT worker shot dead by 15 yr old

GNR4LIFE

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The father-of-two shot dead at point-blank range by a 'radicalised' 15-year-old has been described as a 'gentle' man who had worked as an accountant for police for 17 years.

Police are now probing why Curtis Cheng, 58, who had never worn a uniform, was targeted by lone gunman Farhad Jabar Khalil Mohammad in a 'brutal' and 'callous murder' on Friday.

He was 'just leaving work' at the police headquarters in Parramatta, Sydney, when he was shot in the back of the head by the Iranian-born youth - who was then gunned down by officers.

Mr Cheng, who worked in the Finance and Business Services department for 17 years, had a loving wife and two adult children, both in their 20s.

His grieving relatives were pictured today after speaking to police about the double shooting which had been described by Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull as an 'act of terrorism'.

Detectives have described the shooting as a 'targeted attack', but they are unsure why Farhad chose the civilian officer 'who never had a badge'.

Police Commissioner Andrew Scipione said: 'We are not sure whether he was targeted because he came from a police facility — we may never know. But he was certainly targeted in terms of the shooting.
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t was a direct shooting. Certainly it wasn't a ricochet, it was a targeted shot that took his life.'

He confirmed the teenager's actions were 'politically motivated and therefore linked to terrorism'.

But he admitted they were still unsure of the schoolboy's 'exact motivations'

'We're a long way from establishing a full picture of this man, his exact motivations still remain a mystery to us,' he said.

'There is nothing to suggest that he was doing anything but acting alone.'

Floral tributes and messages of support have been left at the site where Mr Cheng was gunned down just metres away from a children's day care centre.

'He was a much-loved man, [he had] been with us a long time. I don't think I've ever heard anyone have a bad word about Curtis and he will be missed,' Commissioner Scipione said.

'Curtis was admired and respected by his colleagues. He was a gentle man in every sense.

'What has occurred is shocking and it is a very sad time for those who worked closely with him and all our employees.'

Farhad visited Parramatta Mosque where he changed into a black robe in the hours before the killing, according to reports.

The 'radicalised' youth was reportedly able to walk unchallenged into the police headquarters and choose his victim.

The 15-year-old first came across a plain clothes female detective who was not carrying a gun, according to reports.

But he then shot Mr Cheng in the back on the head as the veteran of the police finance department was leaving work.

Witnesses have described seeing the teenagers dancing joyously after shooting the 'gentle' public servant while shouting Allah Allah.

Chilling footage has show the teenager running down the street brandishing his gun in the air just seconds after killing the father-of-two Curtis Cheng, 58.

He could be heard screaming at officers before having a shoot-out with three special constables guarding the station.

The 15-year-old continued to fire his handgun outside the police building until he was killed.

Police said the teenager was not on their radar, but revealed that his relative was known to law enforcement or intelligence agencies.

'[The relative] was a bit of a problem, he did come to the attention of police and counter-terrorism [authorities],' a source told ABC .

It has also emerged that his sister Shadi may have been attempting to reach Iraq or Syria the day before the shooting as she flew out of Australia on a flight bound for Istanbul on Thursday.

She reportedly took all her belongings with her, according to the ABC.

Farhad, who is of Iraqi-Kurdish background, is understood to have been living with his family in an apartment block in North Parramatta.
Floral tributes have been left to Mr Cheng outside the police headquarters in Parramatta, Sydney

Officers searched the teenager's North Parramatta family home on Friday and took his computer equipment.

But they revealed they had not yet discovered any messages, religious writings or notes left by Farhad.

Farhad was previously active on social media, voicing his support for Team Ricky on reality singing contest The Voice in April 2013.

Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull said the Australian Muslim community would be appalled and shocked by the attack.

'We must not vilify or blame the entire Muslim community with the actions of what is in truth a very small percentage of violent extremist individuals.

'The Muslim community are our absolutely necessary partners in combating this type of violent extremism.'

He said the issue of radicalisation - particularly in young people - was complex and it was hard to understand the speed at which it was occurring.

NSW premiere Mike Baird said it was an 'unthinkable act' that ended his life.

'I want the family of Curtis and the members of his Police community to know that you don't face this loss alone. We mourn with you and we are here for you.'

A strike force, Fellows, has been set up to investigate and police are working with Islamic communities, who have offered their support.

The commissioner revealed a number of warnings had been sent round to police in the past two years reminding them to be 'vigilant' about attacks, but assured that the people of NSW were 'safe'.

'I have viewed a number of pieces of footage, I can tell you that this was a brutal crime. It was a terrible crime.

'We're attempting to identify a man who was seen to approach the victim and discharge one single shot. Subsequently the assailant remained in the street here in Charles Street before he fired several further shots at a special constable.

'A number of special constables came out of the building and as they've emerged they've come under fire.

'In the exchange that followed the gunman was shot and killed. An employee of the NSW police force has been callously murdered here today. This is a very sobering time for us.'

Commissioner Scipione said it was likely the gunman waited around after the murder in order to 'commit suicide by cop'.

It was previously reported that there had been increased 'chatter' in the past week about a possible attack on the Parramatta headquarters.

Sources said the building had been 'cased' and that every officer had been ordered to wear their guns on them at all times this week, even while at their desks.

When questioned about whether police were aware on a possible attack at the station, Commissioner Scipione revealed there had been a number of alerts in 2014 and 2015.

'There has been activity around a number of locations in NSW, they're the things we communicate to our ­officers,' Commissioner Scipione said.

'We have drawn officers back to the special warnings which are contained within alert 2015.

'We've refreshed that alert and yet again highlighted the importance of remaining vigilant and being ready to respond should they have to at any location but particularly around police stations. I want to ensure that we don't jump to conclusions, as I've said.

'I've indicated that but we're keeping an open mind. At this stage we've got nothing to link this event to any terrorist-related activity but we could not say that that wasn't the case. So clearly you would understand we have officers from within the counter-terrorism command.'

The NSW Police Force building is home to the State Crime Command, which includes the homicide, drug, Middle Eastern organised crime and gangs squads.

An investigation was believed to be underway into whether the shooter had been recently charged by a detective from one of the State Crime Command squads.

'This man was simply leaving work this afternoon and he was gunned down. He was murdered on this street, this very street,' he said.

Detectives launched a level one critical incident, the highest order they can give, after the attack.

Witnesses reported seeing two bodies lying on the ground covered in white sheets just metres apart.

Dozens of police officers were seen combing the area where the shooting took place from around 10pm on Friday, searching for clues.

Investigators also aimed huge spotlights at neighbouring apartments during the operation.

Residents were evacuated from their homes in buildings nearby the police station and most were allowed to return just after 11pm.

Real estate agent Edwin Almeida said he saw a man with a gun screaming and pacing up and down outside the building on Charles Street.

He said he then saw the man lying on the ground with a police officer pointing a gun at him.

'We looked out the window, saw security guards and what appeared to be a plain clothes police officer with gun drawn pointing at the person that was now lying on the floor surrounded by a pool of blood,' he said.

He wrote on his Facebook page: 'Four five shots fired by man outside our office and in front of NSW police head quarters. Man shot down by guards and detectives.'

A man called Nathan told 2GB Radio that he saw a man lying on the street surrounded by blood.

'I saw the guy dressed in black on the pavement with blood everywhere,' he said.

Shopkeeper Sammy Shak told The Daily Telegraph he saw two bodies on the ground after hearing 'six shots at least'.

'When I went out there was two bodies on the floor and there was cops everywhere all around the area and they told me to go inside the shop straight away,' he said.

Channel Seven helicopter pilot Andrew Millett said two bodies were visible about 200m from the police station.

Finance worker Rizwan Shaikh, who lives opposite the police headquarters, said he heard the shooting.

'I finished work and was in the shower and I heard the gunshots,' Mr Shaikh told The Daily Telegraph.

'I heard six or seven gunshots and it was pretty loud. In two to three minutes there were cops everywhere.'

Miffy Hong, 33, said her mother called her just after 5pm to tell her she could see a body covered by a sheer near police headquarters.

'She told me come back I don't know what's happening, she doesn't speak English,' she said.

The attack occurred outside a daycare centre used by police force families and the children were locked inside for four hours after the shooting with a dead body at their doorstep.

Parents of the children locked inside Goodstart Early Learning voiced fears about their welfare.

Dennis Entriken, whose three-year-old daughter was not allowed to leave for four hours, told Daily Mail Australia: 'It's very frustrating. One of the dead bodies is right out of the front of the chilcare centre.

'What did they see, what did they hear? Is she scared? Is she OK?

'They've told us she's safe which is good… it's the unknown which is the issue.

'If she saw nothing and she's blissfully unaware then that's good,' he said.

In his press conference on Friday night, Commissioner Scipione confirmed that all the children were safe.

'Everyone's safe, that's the good news. There was certainly no suggestion of anyone being injured there. That's certainly very pleasing to us.

Police had set up a 2km exclusion zone after the shooting at around 4.30pm.

A section of Charles Street between Macquarie Street and Hassall Street was cordoned off.

Officers in body armour were seen patrolling the Parramatta CBD and guarding train stations.

A critical incident team from the State Crime Command's Homicide Squad will conduct an investigation overseen by the Coroner, followed by an inquest.

Commissioner Scipione said a major events team was looking at the incident with a view to the NRL grand final, but said security for the match at the ANZ Stadium on Sunday night was already high.

'My message to people across NSW is that there is nothing to fear. Go about your business including this weekend's major sporting events. We will do our job and get to the bottom of what has happened,' he said.

Anyone with any information is asked to call Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000.

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To me, the scariest thing about this wasn't the fact the kid was 15, but how seemingly random it was. I work 5 mins away at Merrylands and was leaving work at about the same time. You never know i guess.

RIP and condolences to the family.
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Hopefully this thread doesn't get derailed by anyone trying to shove their beliefs down everyone else's throats.
 
RIP and condolences to the innocent victims family.
You would think that if the police had heard talk of something about to happen at Parramatta police station then it seems odd that the gunman was not approached by anyone inside the building who saw him.
Also very irresponsible journalism to state that the nearby daycare was 'used by many police officers families' or words to that effect. Sad world we live in these says unfortunately.
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
'My message to people across NSW is that there is nothing to fear. Go about your business including this weekend's major sporting events. We will do our job and get to the bottom of what has happened,' he said..

I fail to see how a comment like this is supposed to be reassuring. People going out and killing other people at random cannot be prevented. Especially if they aren't on some kind of watch list.
 
Mmmm another "refugee" let into our country for a better life.
And now thanks to the bleeding hearts we're about to let another 10000 in from Syria..
Two cultures incompatible

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i ask the question how safe will u feel for yourself or one of your family if a muslim starts walking up behind u now.I dont know what the answer is but we need to stop NOW bring any more to this country.
 
Terrified by women wearing a head scarf (or a man in some form of long shirt that is rarely seen in public), that may decide to walk in the same direction, I think not.

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@dazza65 said:
Mmmm another "refugee" let into our country for a better life.
And now thanks to the bleeding hearts we're about to let another 10000 in from Syria..
Two cultures incompatible

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they weren't compatible about 225 years ago either..

bad people are everywhere- in every culture, religion or country.

someone else mentioned "sad world we live in these days".. the world 70-80 years ago wasn't much better with the world wars.

things like these have happened and will continue to happen as unfortunate as it is. i know it sounds very pessimistic and stupid but there are cowards and legit villains who hide behind the mask of religion, revenge and sometimes righteousness to get their way.

immense respect to the police and the defense force of each country who have to deal with losers on a daily basis.
 
It's certainly becoming a problem, to the point where I now "carry" on my way to and from work.
 
dazza65 wrote:Mmmm another "refugee" let into our country for a better life.
And now thanks to the bleeding hearts we're about to let another 10000 in from Syria..
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they weren't compatible about 225 years ago either..

bad people are everywhere- in every culture, religion or country.

someone else mentioned "sad world we live in these days".. the world 70-80 years ago wasn't much better with the world wars.

things like these have happened and will continue to happen as unfortunate as it is. i know it sounds very pessimistic and stupid but there are cowards and legit villains who hide behind the mask of religion, revenge and sometimes righteousness to get their way.

immense respect to the police and the defense force of each country who have to deal with losers on a daily basis.

Not sure what your reference to 225 is

However, I spent 5 years living and working through out the Middle East and so I think I have some genuine perspective here.
The two cultures are completely incompatible, always have been and always will be. What is happening now as opposed to 20 50 or 100 years ago is that Muslims are moving into western countries, bringing their culture which at its core is diametrically opposed to western ideals and belief. And, they will not assimilate and in fact are not happy to live in a free Western country, where they are free to practice their religion and ways, they are driven to change that country to their ways.
Have you tried to live in the Muslim world? Do you think they give the same freedom to worship and develop Christian culture as we do in Australia and other places? Not on your life.
The apologists who say "oh there's bad in all, or not all Muslims are like that" are seriously deluded and part of the issue

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In the end it is a terribly sad event. The poor man's family will be dealing with this for the rest of their lives and will live in fear of muslim people.
Having grown up in Narwee and going to high school in the late 80's i came in contact with a lot of lebanese muslim's who on a whole didn't want anything to do with assimilating. We had 1 guy who was a lebanese christian who was a lovely bloke and the way he was treated was terrible. Even by his own cousin who was a muslim.
I'm not smart enough to have any solutions but i can see things getting worse before they get better.
 
Fears Grow His Motive May Never Be Revealed:
By Liam Quinn and Jenny Awford For Daily Mail Australia
Updated: 13:06 EST, 4 October 2015

It has been revealed the Parramatta mosque was raided on Sunday morning, as investigations into the shooting continued.News of the raid comes after it was reported the boy was not a frequent visitor to the mosque, and religious leaders were unaware of his motive. 'He died and his secret died with him. I don't know if it's terrorism. What the boy's motive is we don't know,' chairman of the Parramatta Mosque, Neil El-Kadomi said, according to the Sydney Morning Herald.
 
The sooner we stop tip toeing around terrorism and show the terrorists no mercy the sooner the problem will be over. They use the bleeding hearts against us and hide behind the good muslims in our society. I think that as soon as they come to the attention of the AFP, ASIO and any other law enforcement entity, just take them out. I wanna hear a terrorist leader say, "Dont be scared, just go about your business as normal."
 
Another tragedy…condolences to the family of Mr Cheng in this senseless waste of life....
 
The usual bigotry and racism has reared its head. The cycle of hate is never ending. Both sides don't seem to see that the hate both sides have is used as fuel for the other side.
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
The usual bigotry and racism has reared its head. The cycle of hate is never ending. Both sides don't seem to see that the hate both sides have is used as fuel for the other side.

Yeh… They're scum
When my missus is abused in the street by Muslims for wearing a singlet top..... Love isn't what I feelfeel... It's the opposite
 
It's a complex issue, there's more to it than just religion. It's a combination of a variety of factors.

One thing is certain though, Muslims do need to start taking ownership that there is an issue with their religion and how it's interpreted. Right now, they are where Christianity was a few hundred years ago and in desperate need of reform. There is quite a few speaking out about it, but it's just not enough at the moment. The Islamists have the narrative at the moment, they are playing the victim and are recruiting well because of that.
 
@innsaneink said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
The usual bigotry and racism has reared its head. The cycle of hate is never ending. Both sides don't seem to see that the hate both sides have is used as fuel for the other side.

Yeh… They're scum
When my missus is abused in the street by Muslims for wearing a singlet top..... Love isn't what I feelfeel... It's the opposite

Aussie bogans with their Aussie flags hanging on their walls and the 6 stars tattooed on the forearm's are just as bad.
 
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