It would be cheaper to pay out Jason Taylors final two years than to get rid of Robbie.

[NT_Tiger]

What did he say exactly? What's the quote?

 

[PrattenParkMagpie]

Yep, no link for ink stinks

In fact I dont think its been confirmed or denied anywhere, bar what farah and our good mate Bobo says.

And ironically, if it was said… it was said in confidence and behind closed doors, then it was farah who mentioned/leaked this to the media....him of all people after what he said to tallis early last year about Potter, and what Tallis subsequently told all, after being put on the spot by Sammy

Yeah, I haven’t seen it confirmed or denied anywhere either, on day 1 of all this NRL 360 reported that he was told he MIGHT play reserve grade, a significant difference to WILL, and as said, all hearsay

Have been amused with some of Bobo’s attempt at legal jargon and knowledge, a please explain document… What is that? A piece of paper issued by Pauline Hanson perhaps

mate im certainly not trying to argue or convince you to change your mind or thoughts or support of who ever you do or dont etc etc etc
\
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ive merely been explaining what this is from a legal view point.
and i was attempting to outline how something like this would be played out in a legal sense.

whatever your stance is fine.

the point im making is - regardless of the job or occupation or industry
you cannot threaten someone with an action that is designed to make them quit their job.

as for the leagl process'es.
Anyone will tell you before you end up in court, the lawyers / representatives will have a period of communication before they agree that the matter needs to be decided by the courts.

And again I ask you which type court would you claim this scenario would be played out in?

And where is this threatened action to make him quit?

Explain to me your perceived grounds for such an action

 

[rex2ce]

No breach has occurred yet, we are still in season 2015 and Farah is First Grade captain, he is getting paid as per contract, anything else is speculation.
i have been involved in workplace redundancy, i was offered the voluntary handshake, i asked what would happen if i declined, was told that the company would select positions to be made redundant, no different to this

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Yep, no link for ink stinks

In fact I dont think its been confirmed or denied anywhere, bar what farah and our good mate Bobo says.

And ironically, if it was said… it was said in confidence and behind closed doors, then it was farah who mentioned/leaked this to the media....him of all people after what he said to tallis early last year about Potter, and what Tallis subsequently told all, after being put on the spot by Sammy

Yeah, I haven’t seen it confirmed or denied anywhere either, on day 1 of all this NRL 360 reported that he was told he MIGHT play reserve grade, a significant difference to WILL, and as said, all hearsay

Have been amused with some of Bobo’s attempt at legal jargon and knowledge, a please explain document… What is that? A piece of paper issued by Pauline Hanson perhaps

mate im certainly not trying to argue or convince you to change your mind or thoughts or support of who ever you do or dont etc etc etc
\
\
ive merely been explaining what this is from a legal view point.
and i was attempting to outline how something like this would be played out in a legal sense.

whatever your stance is fine.

the point im making is - regardless of the job or occupation or industry
you cannot threaten someone with an action that is designed to make them quit their job.

as for the leagl process'es.
Anyone will tell you before you end up in court, the lawyers / representatives will have a period of communication before they agree that the matter needs to be decided by the courts.

And again I ask you which type court would you claim this scenario would be played out in?

And where is this threatened action to make him quit?

Explain to me your perceived grounds for such an action

For some reason I have a vision of Lional Hutz in this courtroom

 

[bobo125]

And again I ask you which type court would you claim this scenario would be played out in?

And where is this threatened action to make him quit?

Explain to me your perceived grounds for such an action

court.
because of the amount of money that is involved it would most likely be lodged with the supreme court.

threatened action.
that is the reports regarding to quiting or playing reserve grade

perceived grounds for action.
work place laws australia

 

[innsaneink]

Yep, no link for ink stinks

In fact I dont think its been confirmed or denied anywhere, bar what farah and our good mate Bobo says.

And ironically, if it was said… it was said in confidence and behind closed doors, then it was farah who mentioned/leaked this to the media....him of all people after what he said to tallis early last year about Potter, and what Tallis subsequently told all, after being put on the spot by Sammy

Yeah, I haven’t seen it confirmed or denied anywhere either, on day 1 of all this NRL 360 reported that he was told he MIGHT play reserve grade, a significant difference to WILL, and as said, all hearsay

Have been amused with some of Bobo’s attempt at legal jargon and knowledge, a please explain document… What is that? A piece of paper issued by Pauline Hanson perhaps

mate im certainly not trying to argue or convince you to change your mind or thoughts or support of who ever you do or dont etc etc etc
\
\
ive merely been explaining what this is from a legal view point.
and i was attempting to outline how something like this would be played out in a legal sense.

whatever your stance is fine.

the point im making is - regardless of the job or occupation or industry
you cannot threaten someone with an action that is designed to make them quit their job.

as for the leagl process'es.
Anyone will tell you before you end up in court, the lawyers / representatives will have a period of communication before they agree that the matter needs to be decided by the courts.

As explained to you earlier… The alleged that is heresy... Wouldn't get to court... And if it did somehow... We have the origin coach publicly stating he'd select farah for origin from reserves... So there's no loss of income there or from his contract

How would the alleged comment force him to quit?
People get demoted at work all the time

 

[NT_Tiger]

What an imagination.

 

[bobo125]

No breach has occurred yet, we are still in season 2015 and Farah is First Grade captain, he is getting paid as per contract, anything else is speculation.
i have been involved in workplace redundancy, i was offered the voluntary handshake, i asked what would happen if i declined, was told that the company would select positions to be made redundant, no different to this

redundancy is a very very different scenario.
a company can make a position / job role redundant.

 

[innsaneink]

And again I ask you which type court would you claim this scenario would be played out in?

And where is this threatened action to make him quit?

Explain to me your perceived grounds for such an action

court.
because of the amount of money that is involved it would most likely be lodged with the supreme court.

threatened action.
that is the reports regarding to quiting or playing reserve grade

perceived grounds for action.
work place laws australia

Struggling

 

[bobo125]

As explained to you earlier… The alleged that is heresy... Wouldn't get to court... And if it did somehow... We have the origin coach publicly stating he'd select farah for origin from reserves... So there's no loss of income there or from his contract

How would the alleged comment force him to quit?
People get demoted at work all the time

This has never been about demotion.
this has been about removing someone from the club and saying if you dont leave you will play in a lower grade.

that is very very different to a demotion.

 

[bobo125]

And again I ask you which type court would you claim this scenario would be played out in?

And where is this threatened action to make him quit?

Explain to me your perceived grounds for such an action

court.
because of the amount of money that is involved it would most likely be lodged with the supreme court.

threatened action.
that is the reports regarding to quiting or playing reserve grade

perceived grounds for action.
work place laws australia

Struggling

i can def see that.

this is very complicated .

 

[PrattenParkMagpie]

And again I ask you which type court would you claim this scenario would be played out in?

And where is this threatened action to make him quit?

Explain to me your perceived grounds for such an action

court.
because of the amount of money that is involved it would most likely be lodged with the supreme court.

threatened action.
that is the reports regarding to quiting or playing reserve grade

perceived grounds for action.
work place laws australia

Bahahaha the Supreme Court for a workplace dispute, it would be heard by the Industrial Relations Commission

The threat of reserve grade is simple redeployment

Again work place disputes (work place laws are the law, this is a work place dispute), heard by the Industrial Relations Commission

 

[bobo125]

And again I ask you which type court would you claim this scenario would be played out in?

And where is this threatened action to make him quit?

Explain to me your perceived grounds for such an action

court.
because of the amount of money that is involved it would most likely be lodged with the supreme court.

threatened action.
that is the reports regarding to quiting or playing reserve grade

perceived grounds for action.
work place laws australia

Bahahaha the Supreme Court for a workplace dispute, it would be heard by the Industrial Relations Commission

The threat of reserve grade is simple redeployment

Again work place disputes (work place laws are the law, this is a work place dispute), heard by the Industrial Relations Commission

sorry. yes - if robbie is still employed by the tigers it will be dealt with by the industrial relations commission.
if he does leave the club, then it would be a supreme court issue.

reserve grade redeployment - incorrect.

 

[NT_Tiger]

Beat me to it PrattenPark.

I'm not so sure a claim could be made anyway because I think Farah would be classified as a contractor and I don't think they are eligible. Not positive on that though.

 

[bobo125]

Beat me to it PrattenPark.

I'm not so sure a claim could be made anyway because I think Farah would be classified as a contractor and I don't think they are eligible. Not positive on that though.

hes not a contractor.

hes employed by the club via a contract that is ratified by the NRL.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

What is the difference between what Taylor supposedly said and every coach whose ever dropped a player for signing with another club?

 

[PrattenParkMagpie]

Yes bobo, redeployment

Put it into perspective for you

Firtsly, the RLPA is an association that represents players on income, conditions and welfare etc, just like a union, they would only issue a notice of dispute, not a breach notice and certainly not a please explain document, still trying to work out what that is.

Once the notice of dispute is issued, if not resolved would only be heard in the court of the Industrial Relations Commission, and because the short time frame the Commission would order both parties to sit down and try to resolve the dispute further. As things stand at the moment with hearsay I doubt the Commission would even contemplate hearing anything at this point in time, provided that he is paid his full contract amount any move to play in reserve grade would be seen by the Commission as just redeployment.

The only civil action could be breach of contract and unless the contract states he must play first grade, which is doubtful there is no breach of contract to warrant any civil litigation.

As it stands now, even if he was to play reserve grade, IT IS a simple case of redeployment, if not happy with the redeployment he is free to look for suitable employment elsewhere and he will be compensated the outstanding contract amount.

 

[TrueTiger]

Family Court… :laughing:

 

[cqtiger]

Wow, I think I've got bobo-itis

He/she must be being paid by the word from Team Farah.

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[bobo125]

Yes bobo, redeployment

Put it into perspective for you

Firtsly, the RLPA is an association that represents players on income, conditions and welfare etc, just like a union, they would only issue a notice of dispute, not a breach notice and certainly not a please explain document, still trying to work out what that is.

Once the notice of dispute is issued, if not resolved would only be heard in the court of the Industrial Relations Commission, and because the short time frame the Commission would order both parties to sit down and try to resolve the dispute further. As things stand at the moment with hearsay I doubt the Commission would even contemplate hearing anything at this point in time, provided that he is paid his full contract amount any move to play in reserve grade would be seen by the Commission as just redeployment.

The only civil action could be breach of contract and unless the contract states he must play first grade, which is doubtful there is no breach of contract to warrant any civil litigation.

As it stands now, even if he was to play reserve grade, IT IS a simple case of redeployment, if not happy with the redeployment he is free to look for suitable employment elsewhere and he will be compensated the outstanding contract amount.

yes mate im actually very vell aware of what you are saying.
the breach notice / please explain document was a loosely used way of describing the first corro from the RLPA to the Wt club.
As this issue certainly surrounds conditions and welfare - the RLPA would (and are) involved.

as far as the commissions view on "redeployment".
i do not agree.
if in fact - playing reserve grade was used in part of the discussion that "you are no longer wanted at this club regardless of if they are prepared to pay him or not - that is not redeployment.