JAC

[happy_tiger]

Appears to be a few positive pollyannas on here. And that’s ok, but at least come up with some honest disclosure for your attitude.
We hear nothing from the club, I suppose because they have nothing. How about those pollyannas stop ***trying to ridicule fans who are simply hanging out for some good news,*** asking to be swayed by some tiny indication that the club has decided to develop as a professional organisation.

Im not a positive pollyanna, Im as disappointed as anyone else with our lack of success, but it doesnt get in the way of the truth for me.

As you said, we have heard NOTHING from the club at all in regards to JAC negotiations. After the Latrell experience, I would think everyone would welcome that.

But in the absence of news from the club, the ***negative nellies*** here simply make stuff up and that is not helpful in a discussion. I have read here that management has "fumbled" the JAC discussion (despite the fact we ahve heard nothing and know nothing), we are a laughing stock (despite the fact that Souffs and Bulldogs are in the same boat as us and many more imagined woes that have no basis in truth.

Myself and many others here have pointed out that significantly increased revenue, stabilised board structure, elimination of debt, increases year on year for membership, massive increases in sponsorship, appointing sponsor as chairman, Appointing twin premiership winning coach, cutting deadwood from coaching staff, establishment of the COE, signing Aus Schoolboys half and hooker, getting the Grant loan over the line, picking players on form and dropping high profile players regardless of profile and paypacket. signing of Tamou, LL, Blore, Stef, Douiehi.......are ALL very positive indications of the direction we are going, but you would be excused for not hearing it over the WHAAAAAAA WHAAAAAA WHAAAAAA

Interesting that you should go on the defensive at the mention of "positive pollyanna" ? You assumed that my post was directed toward you?
**"it doesn't get in the way of truth for me"**
A PP lives in no other reality but his dream world.

Another example of a PP.. makes up things to fit the dream world view.

Please show me where I stated as you say..
**"As you said, we have heard NOTHING from the club at all in regards to JAC negotiations."**
In fact I would never say such a thing because I believe that all NRL contracts are written "commercial in confidence."
Which is why I don't believe any of the claims made by those who are in the so called know.

Here's what I actually stated.. **"We hear nothing from the club, I suppose because they have nothing."**

Now I'm not asking for Justin Pascoe to have the courage of Don Quixote nor even have the same level of conviction or penchant for bold and ambitious goals as Benny Gale, but for gods sake.. give us something?
A true leader will have a vision..
**what is our vision?**
A true leader will inspire others to share that vision.. and not limit that sharing to an inner circle.
**where are we going?**
A true leader will know the direction..
**how are we going to get there?**
A true leader will negotiate anything..
I could go on, but I would be more than happy with that.
Put it out there Justin and go for it mate!
If you fall over get up and keep going, you'll have the fans on your side. JUST DO IT!!!

Grant Mayer anyone ...his job isn't to win over fans ..and he will just end up with egg on his face

Panic if you haven't heard something by the 2nd of November ..unless as i said he is in lockdown with the SOO camp that could be the issue as well ...

 

[Tiger5150]

"The fact that you cant name the CEO of Storms, Roosters, Raiders, Souffs speaks to how much the CEO;s of these organisation communicate outside of the organisation, and these are successful organisations."
No it doesnt, it speaks to how much interest I have in the administrators in those teams.
***Why should we get hung up on what other teams are doing anyway?*** I'm more interested in WT direction. I actually knew 2. Furner and Solly (only because of the noise of Richo leaving.)

Because they are successful.

IT is not the role of a CEO to win the support of the fans. He has to communicate within the organisation. None of the CEO's above talk outside of the organisation. When you start hearing from the CEO, the organisation is in trouble.

 

[gallagher]

Appears to be a few positive pollyannas on here. And that’s ok, but at least come up with some honest disclosure for your attitude.
We hear nothing from the club, I suppose because they have nothing. How about those pollyannas stop ***trying to ridicule fans who are simply hanging out for some good news,*** asking to be swayed by some tiny indication that the club has decided to develop as a professional organisation.

Im not a positive pollyanna, Im as disappointed as anyone else with our lack of success, but it doesnt get in the way of the truth for me.

As you said, we have heard NOTHING from the club at all in regards to JAC negotiations. After the Latrell experience, I would think everyone would welcome that.

But in the absence of news from the club, the ***negative nellies*** here simply make stuff up and that is not helpful in a discussion. I have read here that management has "fumbled" the JAC discussion (despite the fact we ahve heard nothing and know nothing), we are a laughing stock (despite the fact that Souffs and Bulldogs are in the same boat as us and many more imagined woes that have no basis in truth.

Myself and many others here have pointed out that significantly increased revenue, stabilised board structure, elimination of debt, increases year on year for membership, massive increases in sponsorship, appointing sponsor as chairman, Appointing twin premiership winning coach, cutting deadwood from coaching staff, establishment of the COE, signing Aus Schoolboys half and hooker, getting the Grant loan over the line, picking players on form and dropping high profile players regardless of profile and paypacket. signing of Tamou, LL, Blore, Stef, Douiehi.......are ALL very positive indications of the direction we are going, but you would be excused for not hearing it over the WHAAAAAAA WHAAAAAA WHAAAAAA

Interesting that you should go on the defensive at the mention of "positive pollyanna" ? You assumed that my post was directed toward you?
**"it doesn't get in the way of truth for me"**
A PP lives in no other reality but his dream world.

Another example of a PP.. makes up things to fit the dream world view.

Please show me where I stated as you say..
**"As you said, we have heard NOTHING from the club at all in regards to JAC negotiations."**
In fact I would never say such a thing because I believe that all NRL contracts are written "commercial in confidence."
Which is why I don't believe any of the claims made by those who are in the so called know.

Here's what I actually stated.. **"We hear nothing from the club, I suppose because they have nothing."**

Now I'm not asking for Justin Pascoe to have the courage of Don Quixote nor even have the same level of conviction or penchant for bold and ambitious goals as Benny Gale, but for gods sake.. give us something?
A true leader will have a vision..
**what is our vision?**
A true leader will inspire others to share that vision.. and not limit that sharing to an inner circle.
**where are we going?**
A true leader will know the direction..
**how are we going to get there?**
A true leader will negotiate anything..
I could go on, but I would be more than happy with that.
Put it out there Justin and go for it mate!
If you fall over get up and keep going, you'll have the fans on your side. JUST DO IT!!!

Grant Mayer anyone ...his job isn't to win over fans ..and he will just end up with egg on his face

Panic if you haven't heard something by the 2nd of November ..unless as i said he is in lockdown with the SOO camp that could be the issue as well ...

No he's not there to win over fans but that's all he's done. The club and the roster is the same as when he turned up.

 

[Russell]

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/freddy-disillusioned-wests-tigers-couldn-t-find-a-spot-for-papenhuyzen-20201027-p5696q.html

Not SMH ... thank you Freddy


I agree - there needs to be an investigation as to why the Bulldogs let Thurston go... too small as I remember.... why did Souths let Ron Coote go.... what a disaster....

Did they let 4 guys go at a similar time that went on to win comps or represent their state?

Neither did we.

 

[JD Tiger]

I don't get why it matters if JAC is in 'lockdown' due to SOO. He can still sign a document, physically or electronically. He can sign it wherever he is.

If a Wests Tigers representative cannot be there with him physically, so what? A representative of Wests Tigers doesn't need to be physically next to him, holding his hand or pointing a *metaphorical* gun at his head (though it might help).

It may not be the usual way signings is usually undertaken, but surely it can be worked out, we've had over 6 months of covid restrictions by now.

 

[JC99]

I don't get why it matters if JAC is in 'lockdown' due to SOO. He can still sign a document, physically or electronically. He can sign it wherever he is.

If a Wests Tigers representative cannot be there with him physically, so what? A representative of Wests Tigers doesn't need to be physically next to him, holding his hand or pointing a *metaphorical* gun at his head (though it might help).

It may not be the usual way signings is usually undertaken, but surely it can be worked out, we've had over 6 months of covid restrictions by now.

He’s said it himself he’s letting his manager deal with everything just sounds like he’s not made a deal with anyone yet. Origin won’t delay anything, it’s been Melbourne that have delayed everything

 

[gallagher]

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/freddy-disillusioned-wests-tigers-couldn-t-find-a-spot-for-papenhuyzen-20201027-p5696q.html

Not SMH ... thank you Freddy


I agree - there needs to be an investigation as to why the Bulldogs let Thurston go... too small as I remember.... why did Souths let Ron Coote go.... what a disaster....

Did they let 4 guys go at a similar time that went on to win comps or represent their state?

Neither did we.

No? Paying attention to this thread at all??

 

[twentyforty]

Appears to be a few positive pollyannas on here. And that’s ok, but at least come up with some honest disclosure for your attitude.
We hear nothing from the club, I suppose because they have nothing. How about those pollyannas stop ***trying to ridicule fans who are simply hanging out for some good news,*** asking to be swayed by some tiny indication that the club has decided to develop as a professional organisation.

Im not a positive pollyanna, Im as disappointed as anyone else with our lack of success, but it doesnt get in the way of the truth for me.

As you said, we have heard NOTHING from the club at all in regards to JAC negotiations. After the Latrell experience, I would think everyone would welcome that.

But in the absence of news from the club, the ***negative nellies*** here simply make stuff up and that is not helpful in a discussion. I have read here that management has "fumbled" the JAC discussion (despite the fact we ahve heard nothing and know nothing), we are a laughing stock (despite the fact that Souffs and Bulldogs are in the same boat as us and many more imagined woes that have no basis in truth.

Myself and many others here have pointed out that significantly increased revenue, stabilised board structure, elimination of debt, increases year on year for membership, massive increases in sponsorship, appointing sponsor as chairman, Appointing twin premiership winning coach, cutting deadwood from coaching staff, establishment of the COE, signing Aus Schoolboys half and hooker, getting the Grant loan over the line, picking players on form and dropping high profile players regardless of profile and paypacket. signing of Tamou, LL, Blore, Stef, Douiehi.......are ALL very positive indications of the direction we are going, but you would be excused for not hearing it over the WHAAAAAAA WHAAAAAA WHAAAAAA

Interesting that you should go on the defensive at the mention of "positive pollyanna" ? You assumed that my post was directed toward you?
**"it doesn't get in the way of truth for me"**
A PP lives in no other reality but his dream world.

Another example of a PP.. makes up things to fit the dream world view.

Please show me where I stated as you say..
**"As you said, we have heard NOTHING from the club at all in regards to JAC negotiations."**
In fact I would never say such a thing because I believe that all NRL contracts are written "commercial in confidence."
Which is why I don't believe any of the claims made by those who are in the so called know.

Here's what I actually stated.. **"We hear nothing from the club, I suppose because they have nothing."**

Now I'm not asking for Justin Pascoe to have the courage of Don Quixote nor even have the same level of conviction or penchant for bold and ambitious goals as Benny Gale, but for gods sake.. give us something?
A true leader will have a vision..
**what is our vision?**
A true leader will inspire others to share that vision.. and not limit that sharing to an inner circle.
**where are we going?**
A true leader will know the direction..
**how are we going to get there?**
A true leader will negotiate anything..
I could go on, but I would be more than happy with that.
Put it out there Justin and go for it mate!
If you fall over get up and keep going, you'll have the fans on your side. JUST DO IT!!!

Grant Mayer anyone ...his job isn't to win over fans ..and he will just end up with egg on his face

Panic if you haven't heard something by the 2nd of November ..unless as i said he is in lockdown with the SOO camp that could be the issue as well ...

Happy, I don’t care if we miss out on JAC. I care more for the development of the organisation. And to be honest with you I doubt it can be achieved under the current OC.

 

[happy_tiger]

I don't get why it matters if JAC is in 'lockdown' due to SOO. He can still sign a document, physically or electronically. He can sign it wherever he is.

If a Wests Tigers representative cannot be there with him physically, so what? A representative of Wests Tigers doesn't need to be physically next to him, holding his hand or pointing a *metaphorical* gun at his head (though it might help).

It may not be the usual way signings is usually undertaken, but surely it can be worked out, we've had over 6 months of covid restrictions by now.

they will want the promo shot in a WT's jersey all the whizz bang stuff ...the interview with Dan ....JAC shedding tears because he never wanted to leave .....

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

True
Moses
Woods
didn't win comps

 

[hobbo1]

I don't get why it matters if JAC is in 'lockdown' due to SOO. He can still sign a document, physically or electronically. He can sign it wherever he is.

If a Wests Tigers representative cannot be there with him physically, so what? A representative of Wests Tigers doesn't need to be physically next to him, holding his hand or pointing a *metaphorical* gun at his head (though it might help).

It may not be the usual way signings is usually undertaken, but surely it can be worked out, we've had over 6 months of covid restrictions by now.

they will want the promo shot in a WT's jersey all the whizz bang stuff ...the interview with Dan ....JAC shedding tears because he never wanted to leave .....

All that can be photo shopped...

 

[twentyforty]

I don't get why it matters if JAC is in 'lockdown' due to SOO. He can still sign a document, physically or electronically. He can sign it wherever he is.

If a Wests Tigers representative cannot be there with him physically, so what? A representative of Wests Tigers doesn't need to be physically next to him, holding his hand or pointing a *metaphorical* gun at his head (though it might help).

It may not be the usual way signings is usually undertaken, but surely it can be worked out, we've had over 6 months of covid restrictions by now.

they will want the promo shot in a WT's jersey all the whizz bang stuff ...the interview with Dan ....JAC shedding tears because he never wanted to leave .....

The tears rolling down his cheeks like Mickey Rooney telling Spencer Tracy “I’m coming home sob sob.”

 

[happy_tiger]

Appears to be a few positive pollyannas on here. And that’s ok, but at least come up with some honest disclosure for your attitude.
We hear nothing from the club, I suppose because they have nothing. How about those pollyannas stop ***trying to ridicule fans who are simply hanging out for some good news,*** asking to be swayed by some tiny indication that the club has decided to develop as a professional organisation.

Im not a positive pollyanna, Im as disappointed as anyone else with our lack of success, but it doesnt get in the way of the truth for me.

As you said, we have heard NOTHING from the club at all in regards to JAC negotiations. After the Latrell experience, I would think everyone would welcome that.

But in the absence of news from the club, the ***negative nellies*** here simply make stuff up and that is not helpful in a discussion. I have read here that management has "fumbled" the JAC discussion (despite the fact we ahve heard nothing and know nothing), we are a laughing stock (despite the fact that Souffs and Bulldogs are in the same boat as us and many more imagined woes that have no basis in truth.

Myself and many others here have pointed out that significantly increased revenue, stabilised board structure, elimination of debt, increases year on year for membership, massive increases in sponsorship, appointing sponsor as chairman, Appointing twin premiership winning coach, cutting deadwood from coaching staff, establishment of the COE, signing Aus Schoolboys half and hooker, getting the Grant loan over the line, picking players on form and dropping high profile players regardless of profile and paypacket. signing of Tamou, LL, Blore, Stef, Douiehi.......are ALL very positive indications of the direction we are going, but you would be excused for not hearing it over the WHAAAAAAA WHAAAAAA WHAAAAAA

Interesting that you should go on the defensive at the mention of "positive pollyanna" ? You assumed that my post was directed toward you?
**"it doesn't get in the way of truth for me"**
A PP lives in no other reality but his dream world.

Another example of a PP.. makes up things to fit the dream world view.

Please show me where I stated as you say..
**"As you said, we have heard NOTHING from the club at all in regards to JAC negotiations."**
In fact I would never say such a thing because I believe that all NRL contracts are written "commercial in confidence."
Which is why I don't believe any of the claims made by those who are in the so called know.

Here's what I actually stated.. **"We hear nothing from the club, I suppose because they have nothing."**

Now I'm not asking for Justin Pascoe to have the courage of Don Quixote nor even have the same level of conviction or penchant for bold and ambitious goals as Benny Gale, but for gods sake.. give us something?
A true leader will have a vision..
**what is our vision?**
A true leader will inspire others to share that vision.. and not limit that sharing to an inner circle.
**where are we going?**
A true leader will know the direction..
**how are we going to get there?**
A true leader will negotiate anything..
I could go on, but I would be more than happy with that.
Put it out there Justin and go for it mate!
If you fall over get up and keep going, you'll have the fans on your side. JUST DO IT!!!

Grant Mayer anyone ...his job isn't to win over fans ..and he will just end up with egg on his face

Panic if you haven't heard something by the 2nd of November ..unless as i said he is in lockdown with the SOO camp that could be the issue as well ...


Happy, I don’t care if we miss out on JAC. I care more for the development of the organisation. And to be honest with you I doubt it can be achieved under the current OC.

I was talking about leaking stuff to the press ....having pressers every week etc JAC will happen when JAC happens

 

[JD Tiger]

I don't get why it matters if JAC is in 'lockdown' due to SOO. He can still sign a document, physically or electronically. He can sign it wherever he is.

If a Wests Tigers representative cannot be there with him physically, so what? A representative of Wests Tigers doesn't need to be physically next to him, holding his hand or pointing a *metaphorical* gun at his head (though it might help).

It may not be the usual way signings is usually undertaken, but surely it can be worked out, we've had over 6 months of covid restrictions by now.

they will want the promo shot in a WT's jersey all the whizz bang stuff ...the interview with Dan ....JAC shedding tears because he never wanted to leave .....

That can all be done through the internet. He can sit there at a computer and wear a WT shirt, talk to Dan via Skype/Teams/Messenger or whatever medium they want.

Fingers crossed if we don't get him, we spend whatever cash we have wisely.

 

[happy_tiger]

I don't get why it matters if JAC is in 'lockdown' due to SOO. He can still sign a document, physically or electronically. He can sign it wherever he is.

If a Wests Tigers representative cannot be there with him physically, so what? A representative of Wests Tigers doesn't need to be physically next to him, holding his hand or pointing a *metaphorical* gun at his head (though it might help).

It may not be the usual way signings is usually undertaken, but surely it can be worked out, we've had over 6 months of covid restrictions by now.

they will want the promo shot in a WT's jersey all the whizz bang stuff ...the interview with Dan ....JAC shedding tears because he never wanted to leave .....

That can all be done through the internet. He can sit there at a computer and wear a WT shirt, talk to Dan via Skype/Teams/Messenger or whatever medium they want.

Fingers crossed if we don't get him, we spend whatever cash we have wisely.

I'm not sure Freddy and the SOO hierachy will be impressed

 

[Tiger5150]

Appears to be a few positive pollyannas on here. And that’s ok, but at least come up with some honest disclosure for your attitude.
We hear nothing from the club, I suppose because they have nothing. How about those pollyannas stop ***trying to ridicule fans who are simply hanging out for some good news,*** asking to be swayed by some tiny indication that the club has decided to develop as a professional organisation.

Im not a positive pollyanna, Im as disappointed as anyone else with our lack of success, but it doesnt get in the way of the truth for me.

As you said, we have heard NOTHING from the club at all in regards to JAC negotiations. After the Latrell experience, I would think everyone would welcome that.

But in the absence of news from the club, the ***negative nellies*** here simply make stuff up and that is not helpful in a discussion. I have read here that management has "fumbled" the JAC discussion (despite the fact we ahve heard nothing and know nothing), we are a laughing stock (despite the fact that Souffs and Bulldogs are in the same boat as us and many more imagined woes that have no basis in truth.

Myself and many others here have pointed out that significantly increased revenue, stabilised board structure, elimination of debt, increases year on year for membership, massive increases in sponsorship, appointing sponsor as chairman, Appointing twin premiership winning coach, cutting deadwood from coaching staff, establishment of the COE, signing Aus Schoolboys half and hooker, getting the Grant loan over the line, picking players on form and dropping high profile players regardless of profile and paypacket. signing of Tamou, LL, Blore, Stef, Douiehi.......are ALL very positive indications of the direction we are going, but you would be excused for not hearing it over the WHAAAAAAA WHAAAAAA WHAAAAAA

Interesting that you should go on the defensive at the mention of "positive pollyanna" ? You assumed that my post was directed toward you?
**"it doesn't get in the way of truth for me"**
A PP lives in no other reality but his dream world.

Another example of a PP.. makes up things to fit the dream world view.

Please show me where I stated as you say..
**"As you said, we have heard NOTHING from the club at all in regards to JAC negotiations."**
In fact I would never say such a thing because I believe that all NRL contracts are written "commercial in confidence."
Which is why I don't believe any of the claims made by those who are in the so called know.

Here's what I actually stated.. **"We hear nothing from the club, I suppose because they have nothing."**

Now I'm not asking for Justin Pascoe to have the courage of Don Quixote nor even have the same level of conviction or penchant for bold and ambitious goals as Benny Gale, but for gods sake.. give us something?
A true leader will have a vision..
**what is our vision?**
A true leader will inspire others to share that vision.. and not limit that sharing to an inner circle.
**where are we going?**
A true leader will know the direction..
**how are we going to get there?**
A true leader will negotiate anything..
I could go on, but I would be more than happy with that.
Put it out there Justin and go for it mate!
If you fall over get up and keep going, you'll have the fans on your side. JUST DO IT!!!

Grant Mayer anyone ...his job isn't to win over fans ..and he will just end up with egg on his face

Panic if you haven't heard something by the 2nd of November ..unless as i said he is in lockdown with the SOO camp that could be the issue as well ...

No he's not there to win over fans but that's all he's done. ***The club and the roster is the same as when he turned up.***

Ok......

So there are only two players left from when he turned up, Brooks & Nofo. None of the current coaching staff were here when Pascoe turned up. Simon Dwyer, is the only remaining member of the football department that was present when he arrived. He created a new position Head of Performance last year to strengthen the football department, added the role of NRL Performance coach last year. He has added the Roosters and Melbourne recruitment managers to the club last year.

So I guess you could say that the club and the roster is the same as when he turned up other than everyone in the whole club is gone and been replaced, new positions created...totally the same except everything and everyone different. Unless you meant Brooksy and Nofo are still there?

Dont let these inconvenient facts spoil a narrative though....as you were.

 

[happy_tiger]

I don't get why it matters if JAC is in 'lockdown' due to SOO. He can still sign a document, physically or electronically. He can sign it wherever he is.

If a Wests Tigers representative cannot be there with him physically, so what? A representative of Wests Tigers doesn't need to be physically next to him, holding his hand or pointing a *metaphorical* gun at his head (though it might help).

It may not be the usual way signings is usually undertaken, but surely it can be worked out, we've had over 6 months of covid restrictions by now.

they will want the promo shot in a WT's jersey all the whizz bang stuff ...the interview with Dan ....JAC shedding tears because he never wanted to leave .....

All that can be photo shopped...

Even Nofa kicking cans in the background lol

 

[JD Tiger]

I don't get why it matters if JAC is in 'lockdown' due to SOO. He can still sign a document, physically or electronically. He can sign it wherever he is.

If a Wests Tigers representative cannot be there with him physically, so what? A representative of Wests Tigers doesn't need to be physically next to him, holding his hand or pointing a *metaphorical* gun at his head (though it might help).

It may not be the usual way signings is usually undertaken, but surely it can be worked out, we've had over 6 months of covid restrictions by now.

they will want the promo shot in a WT's jersey all the whizz bang stuff ...the interview with Dan ....JAC shedding tears because he never wanted to leave .....

That can all be done through the internet. He can sit there at a computer and wear a WT shirt, talk to Dan via Skype/Teams/Messenger or whatever medium they want.

Fingers crossed if we don't get him, we spend whatever cash we have wisely.

I'm not sure Freddy and the SOO hierachy will be impressed

The clubs pay the bills, SOO is a icing on the cake showpiece. And it would take 5 minutes of JAC's time.

Or perhaps you mean Freddy wouldn't be impressed if JAC signs with WT - yes that'd be true. But I don't think Freddy would have the gusto to not pick JAC because of that.

 

[happy_tiger]

Appears to be a few positive pollyannas on here. And that’s ok, but at least come up with some honest disclosure for your attitude.
We hear nothing from the club, I suppose because they have nothing. How about those pollyannas stop ***trying to ridicule fans who are simply hanging out for some good news,*** asking to be swayed by some tiny indication that the club has decided to develop as a professional organisation.

Im not a positive pollyanna, Im as disappointed as anyone else with our lack of success, but it doesnt get in the way of the truth for me.

As you said, we have heard NOTHING from the club at all in regards to JAC negotiations. After the Latrell experience, I would think everyone would welcome that.

But in the absence of news from the club, the ***negative nellies*** here simply make stuff up and that is not helpful in a discussion. I have read here that management has "fumbled" the JAC discussion (despite the fact we ahve heard nothing and know nothing), we are a laughing stock (despite the fact that Souffs and Bulldogs are in the same boat as us and many more imagined woes that have no basis in truth.

Myself and many others here have pointed out that significantly increased revenue, stabilised board structure, elimination of debt, increases year on year for membership, massive increases in sponsorship, appointing sponsor as chairman, Appointing twin premiership winning coach, cutting deadwood from coaching staff, establishment of the COE, signing Aus Schoolboys half and hooker, getting the Grant loan over the line, picking players on form and dropping high profile players regardless of profile and paypacket. signing of Tamou, LL, Blore, Stef, Douiehi.......are ALL very positive indications of the direction we are going, but you would be excused for not hearing it over the WHAAAAAAA WHAAAAAA WHAAAAAA

Interesting that you should go on the defensive at the mention of "positive pollyanna" ? You assumed that my post was directed toward you?
**"it doesn't get in the way of truth for me"**
A PP lives in no other reality but his dream world.

Another example of a PP.. makes up things to fit the dream world view.

Please show me where I stated as you say..
**"As you said, we have heard NOTHING from the club at all in regards to JAC negotiations."**
In fact I would never say such a thing because I believe that all NRL contracts are written "commercial in confidence."
Which is why I don't believe any of the claims made by those who are in the so called know.

Here's what I actually stated.. **"We hear nothing from the club, I suppose because they have nothing."**

Now I'm not asking for Justin Pascoe to have the courage of Don Quixote nor even have the same level of conviction or penchant for bold and ambitious goals as Benny Gale, but for gods sake.. give us something?
A true leader will have a vision..
**what is our vision?**
A true leader will inspire others to share that vision.. and not limit that sharing to an inner circle.
**where are we going?**
A true leader will know the direction..
**how are we going to get there?**
A true leader will negotiate anything..
I could go on, but I would be more than happy with that.
Put it out there Justin and go for it mate!
If you fall over get up and keep going, you'll have the fans on your side. JUST DO IT!!!

Grant Mayer anyone ...his job isn't to win over fans ..and he will just end up with egg on his face

Panic if you haven't heard something by the 2nd of November ..unless as i said he is in lockdown with the SOO camp that could be the issue as well ...

No he's not there to win over fans but that's all he's done. The club and the roster is the same as when he turned up.


Ok......

So there are only two players left from when he turned up, Brooks & Nofo. None of the current coaching staff were here when Pascoe turned up. Simon Dwyer, is the only remaining member of the football department that was present when he arrived. He created a new position Head of Performance last year to strengthen the football department, added the role of NRL Performance coach last year. He has added the Roosters and Melbourne recruitment managers to the club last year.

So I guess you could say that the club and the roster is the same as when he turned up other than everyone in the who club is gone and been replaced, new positions created...totally the same except everything and everyone different. Unless you meant Brooksy and Nofo are still there?

Dont let these inconvenient facts spoil a narrative though....as you were.

i didnt say that lol ......

 

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Appears to be a few positive pollyannas on here. And that’s ok, but at least come up with some honest disclosure for your attitude.
We hear nothing from the club, I suppose because they have nothing. How about those pollyannas stop ***trying to ridicule fans who are simply hanging out for some good news,*** asking to be swayed by some tiny indication that the club has decided to develop as a professional organisation.

Im not a positive pollyanna, Im as disappointed as anyone else with our lack of success, but it doesnt get in the way of the truth for me.

As you said, we have heard NOTHING from the club at all in regards to JAC negotiations. After the Latrell experience, I would think everyone would welcome that.

But in the absence of news from the club, the ***negative nellies*** here simply make stuff up and that is not helpful in a discussion. I have read here that management has "fumbled" the JAC discussion (despite the fact we ahve heard nothing and know nothing), we are a laughing stock (despite the fact that Souffs and Bulldogs are in the same boat as us and many more imagined woes that have no basis in truth.

Myself and many others here have pointed out that significantly increased revenue, stabilised board structure, elimination of debt, increases year on year for membership, massive increases in sponsorship, appointing sponsor as chairman, Appointing twin premiership winning coach, cutting deadwood from coaching staff, establishment of the COE, signing Aus Schoolboys half and hooker, getting the Grant loan over the line, picking players on form and dropping high profile players regardless of profile and paypacket. signing of Tamou, LL, Blore, Stef, Douiehi.......are ALL very positive indications of the direction we are going, but you would be excused for not hearing it over the WHAAAAAAA WHAAAAAA WHAAAAAA

Interesting that you should go on the defensive at the mention of "positive pollyanna" ? You assumed that my post was directed toward you?
**"it doesn't get in the way of truth for me"**
A PP lives in no other reality but his dream world.

Another example of a PP.. makes up things to fit the dream world view.

Please show me where I stated as you say..
**"As you said, we have heard NOTHING from the club at all in regards to JAC negotiations."**
In fact I would never say such a thing because I believe that all NRL contracts are written "commercial in confidence."
Which is why I don't believe any of the claims made by those who are in the so called know.

Here's what I actually stated.. **"We hear nothing from the club, I suppose because they have nothing."**

Now I'm not asking for Justin Pascoe to have the courage of Don Quixote nor even have the same level of conviction or penchant for bold and ambitious goals as Benny Gale, but for gods sake.. give us something?
A true leader will have a vision..
**what is our vision?**
A true leader will inspire others to share that vision.. and not limit that sharing to an inner circle.
**where are we going?**
A true leader will know the direction..
**how are we going to get there?**
A true leader will negotiate anything..
I could go on, but I would be more than happy with that.
Put it out there Justin and go for it mate!
If you fall over get up and keep going, you'll have the fans on your side. JUST DO IT!!!

Grant Mayer anyone ...his job isn't to win over fans ..and he will just end up with egg on his face

Panic if you haven't heard something by the 2nd of November ..unless as i said he is in lockdown with the SOO camp that could be the issue as well ...

No he's not there to win over fans but that's all he's done. The club and the roster is the same as when he turned up.


Ok......

So there are only two players left from when he turned up, Brooks & Nofo. None of the current coaching staff were here when Pascoe turned up. Simon Dwyer, is the only remaining member of the football department that was present when he arrived. He created a new position Head of Performance last year to strengthen the football department, added the role of NRL Performance coach last year. He has added the Roosters and Melbourne recruitment managers to the club last year.

So I guess you could say that the club and the roster is the same as when he turned up other than everyone in the who club is gone and been replaced, new positions created...totally the same except everything and everyone different. Unless you meant Brooksy and Nofo are still there?

Dont let these inconvenient facts spoil a narrative though....as you were.

i didnt say that lol ......

No Gallagher did.