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@hobbo1 said in [JAC](/post/1262225) said:I don’t understand why we can’t attract decent players..
1 . We’ll pay you more than you’re worth
2 . We’ll top up your superannuation
3 . You’ll get more money for less games played
4 . You’ll get longer annual leave each year
5 . You’ll enjoy stress free finals
What’s not to like ?
@Bones said in [JAC](/post/1262278) said:@Jedi_Tiger said in [JAC](/post/1262273) said:@balmain-boy said in [JAC](/post/1262227) said:@mike said in [JAC](/post/1262180) said:@balmain-boy said in [JAC](/post/1262159) said:@mike said in [JAC](/post/1262124) said:@balmain-boy said in [JAC](/post/1262119) said:Mansour would be a spectacular failure.
JAC is a dog.
Pascoe and co are useless. The deal was there to be done, we stalled and stalled and now miss out. Pathetic and embarassing.
Big pressure on Talau to play origin next year
You sure it wasn’t JAC that stalled and stalled?
Yes. This is our fault.
Storm had publicly said they would release JAC after a suitable player was acquired. We failed to swap two vastly inferior players for one of the best players in the game. Most clubs would have waited for a while to try and make a deal without giving up anything, but there comes a time when a deal must be made. Other clubs would have pulled the trigger. We didn't.
Talau is a promising junior. Who's had injury issues. How many players like that have we had that went on to play origin? Even swapping Nof for jac is a huge upgrade. We've been moaning Nofs awful defence for years. He's just above average. And he's identical to Mansour. Which is why we most cetainly do not need or want him.
I think the Storm were never going to release him. The term like for like comes to mind. Who do we have that is an Test and SOO player.
It is very widely reported that they were after Nof or Talau. Was i in the room when said negitioations took place? No. Would i swap either of those players for jac, yes. I would try and not lose any assets but ultimately i would swap these guys when the opportunity arose.
spot on a swap should have been made Nofo or talau as a club we are stupid
And if neither wanted to go do you just shackle them to the landing gear of the next flight out?
@tiger_one said in [JAC](/post/1262281) said:There are lessons, tragedies and complications beyond comprehension experienced by those who follow our team.
@voice_of_reason said in [JAC](/post/1262261) said:@supercoach said in [JAC](/post/1262239) said:Got me scratching my head, why did the Storm refuse him a release, than up his contract. This whole thing has been put together by the Storm and JAC management to get around theTigers deal. Total sugar coat the clubs media release.
They refused him a release because they need quality wingers. Vunivalu is gone and losing JAC would compound the issue. It may be they've been waiting for C. Smith to make a retirement decision to see what additional cash they'd have available.
I think the narrative they've done this just to somehow 'screw' the tigers is a bit conspiratorial.
Based on well known fact, I'd suggest:
1) they had an existing contract they were entitled to enforce,
2) they needed wingers,
3) Smith retiring frees up a pile of cash
4) JAC would be pleased to get a significant pay rise
5) He probably does like the Tigers, but the dominos fell away from us.
@tony-soprano said in [JAC](/post/1262144) said:I guess it’s not a total failure if we get Laurie and Mansour for the price of JAC.
@Swordy said in [JAC](/post/1262282) said:Seriously, this forum has either been infiltrated or some people have turned into complete tools. All this 'i had lunch with pascoe' or " i mixed it in the chairmans lounge with important people" just makes you look a complete flog.
@Russell said in [JAC](/post/1262289) said:@tony-soprano said in [JAC](/post/1262144) said:I guess it’s not a total failure if we get Laurie and Mansour for the price of JAC.
If you get Old Man Mansour it is.
@BAGNF05 said in [JAC](/post/1262286) said:@tiger_one said in [JAC](/post/1262281) said:There are lessons, tragedies and complications beyond comprehension experienced by those who follow our team.
Paying my membership to charity next year, sick of throwing good money after bad. Until somebody is accountable for the failing or the club challenges the ineffective NRL salary cap I will just be giving the game a wide berth. Call it sooking but I’d rather call it being a realist, we’re a total dumpster fire.
@supercoach said in [JAC](/post/1262287) said:@voice_of_reason said in [JAC](/post/1262261) said:@supercoach said in [JAC](/post/1262239) said:Got me scratching my head, why did the Storm refuse him a release, than up his contract. This whole thing has been put together by the Storm and JAC management to get around theTigers deal. Total sugar coat the clubs media release.
They refused him a release because they need quality wingers. Vunivalu is gone and losing JAC would compound the issue. It may be they've been waiting for C. Smith to make a retirement decision to see what additional cash they'd have available.
I think the narrative they've done this just to somehow 'screw' the tigers is a bit conspiratorial.
Based on well known fact, I'd suggest:
1) they had an existing contract they were entitled to enforce,
2) they needed wingers,
3) Smith retiring frees up a pile of cash
4) JAC would be pleased to get a significant pay rise
5) He probably does like the Tigers, but the dominos fell away from us.
Iam not saying Melbourne were trying to screw theTigers but JAC management came up with a plan that gave the Fox a upgrade for 2021, the Storm were not seen at holding him from returning to NSW as the Fox agreed to the upgrade and it made the Fox a free man to sign with anyone he likes in2022.
@Swordy said in [JAC](/post/1262282) said:Seriously, this forum has either been infiltrated or some people have turned into complete tools. All this 'i had lunch with pascoe' or " i mixed it in the chairmans lounge with important people" just makes you look a complete flog.
@finnzo said in [JAC](/post/1262299) said:Owell who cars there will be other players
Keep buying young talent and we will get there 1 day
I don’t think the club could have done much more to get him here the blokes clearly lying about wanting to get back to Sydney to be with his family so who needs him
@balmain-boy said in [JAC](/post/1262159) said:@mike said in [JAC](/post/1262124) said:@balmain-boy said in [JAC](/post/1262119) said:Mansour would be a spectacular failure.
JAC is a dog.
Pascoe and co are useless. The deal was there to be done, we stalled and stalled and now miss out. Pathetic and embarassing.
Big pressure on Talau to play origin next year
You sure it wasn’t JAC that stalled and stalled?
Yes. This is our fault.
Storm had publicly said they would release JAC after a suitable player was acquired. We failed to swap two vastly inferior players for one of the best players in the game. Most clubs would have waited for a while to try and make a deal without giving up anything, but there comes a time when a deal must be made. Other clubs would have pulled the trigger. We didn't.
Talau is a promising junior. Who's had injury issues. How many players like that have we had that went on to play origin? Even swapping Nof for jac is a huge upgrade. We've been moaning Nofs awful defence for years. He's just above average. And he's identical to Mansour. Which is why we most cetainly do not need or want him.
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1262288) said:Skipped like 9 pages so no idea if this has been posted but Chammas giving Tigers a good rap here. I agree with him too, turns out money is more important than family for JAC 
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1262288) said:Skipped like 9 pages so no idea if this has been posted but Chammas giving Tigers a good rap here. I agree with him too, turns out money is more important than family for JAC 
@hank37w said in [JAC](/post/1262298) said:@Swordy said in [JAC](/post/1262282) said:Seriously, this forum has either been infiltrated or some people have turned into complete tools. All this 'i had lunch with pascoe' or " i mixed it in the chairmans lounge with important people" just makes you look a complete flog.
Just had dinner with Scomo, might have to start supporting the Gummy Sharks.
@Tiger_Steve said in [JAC](/post/1261988) said:@Tiger_Steve said in [JAC](/post/1261982) said:Some of the posts on here are outrageous lol. All because some hack on SEN made a prediction. Nothing official yet as far as I can see.
Umm......... now it’s official