JAC

[Tcat]

Madge isn't stupid enough to let Nofa go the storm. There's no trust in JAC to suggest he wouldn't use us for a year and pull out and go to souths when some cash becomes available. I want JAC, but not willing to loose Nofa for him. Like others have said, if a deal isn't done shortly after the end of season, we pull out and move on. I'm done with the rubbish of players using us.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

The Storm are open to a loan for a year. I believe it to be a reasonable position. It is a possibility the Storm could have another year on the Sunshine Coast. That is an attractive proposition for one of our players.

 

[diedpretty]

What would you guys think about "loaning" Nofoaluma for 2021 to Melbourne for JAC? This way if he is still on our payroll, we can claim the concession down the track, Nofoaluma will definitely come back an even better player and we get JAC

Nofo can go there full-time for JAC. They're not in the same class.

The only people who think Nofo is in the same galaxy as JAC are WT supporters.

It's not about comparing them, it's wanting both. No point having JAC on one wing and a Jennings on the other. A combination of Nofo and JAC is what we want, and if we can pull it off like that that's what we should be aiming for.

Good on our management.

And RE Talau, you'll probably be the same people complaining about why we let him go in a few years ala Paps. He is VERY young and inexperienced, if the Storm really do want him (and its just a rumour as far as I know) that says a lot about him and his potential.

Again, if we can get JAC without caving in and giving someone in return - good management.

Let it play out.

Storm will give in they don't want a disgruntled JAC next year

What makes you think that? I think the exact opposite. Sorry JAC couldn’t find a replacement, you’ll have to stay and honour your contract.

It's what a decent club should do. Why would they budge? Exactly my feelings about us with Matterson, and Parra then made the smart decision and didn't release our prop to us early either. Why would you? They have contracts. Just because we cave in again and again, doesn't mean other clubs are dumb enough to do so.

What makes you think Melbourne is a decent club? That’s not what I would call Melbourne.

Decent: of an acceptable standard; satisfactory.

Yep, they smash that out of the water.

In the press conference with Bellamy they mentioned that this is 5 top 2 finishes in a row.

Outstanding! But people wanting to deride their achievements due to cap cheating years ago don't see it. But turn an eye to our cap cheating . funny

Let's get this straight - we did not cap cheat.

Everybody new what we were doing, we were not hiding anything - it was widely reported.

We did however not advise the NRL. It was NOT cheating.

Poor form to suggest we were in my opinion.

Aahhh, we did.

Of course we did. Hence the penalty and the de-registration of JP.

I disagree, I say we did not cheat. We made a bad administration error, which the NRL said could have been manipulated, hence was against their rules, hence the penalty.

It could have been used to cheat, hence why they penalised us, but there was no proof I ever read that it was us actually cheating and getting an advantage from it, or trying to get an advantage from it.

By the letter of the (NRL) law did we cheat, yes. By the definition of the word, most definitely not. We stood to gain no benefit whatsoever. I'd hesitate to use the word cheat too, even when describing the NRL's perspective. Rather we simply overlooked the process and did the wrong thing.

If there is no advantage or gain to any party it would be very difficult to call it cheating. An error yes, but cheating no.

An inducement to leave is an advantage, he also came back 18 months later, so someone could argue the inducment was to return to the club.

Fair enough but really all they did was they failed to fill out form 1534J Section 3 Subsection 4. It was an error.

If for example the Roosters were in the same situation and offered a player on $950k a future job, that they didn't tell the NRL about, so he would leave, and then 18 months later he came back on a much reduced contract would you be ok with that?

I'm not saying that was what we were intending to do but from the outside looking in it can be argued that is how it appears and would set a precedence that other teams could take advantage of.

Everyone knew, they were not trying to hide it. The NRL, Turdberg in particular, got their noses out of joint because we didn’t file the correct paperwork. It was a ridiculous fine/punishment for a very minor error. No one was trying to cheat anyone.

There is a reason the NRL wants to know as it is an area to be exploited. The rules are simple to follow, we didn't follow them and then we asked for compensation for Farah being disruptive despite the fact we had an offer for him to return.

It was well known, they could have just picked up the phone an sorted it out. But no they had to take the look at us, we’re in charge and we will tell you what to do and officiate to show you who’s boss approach. It was a ridiculous response to a very minor error.

I don't think offering a guy a job as an incentive to leave is a minor issue, especially when that player returns to play 18 months later. Just like Burgess shouldn't be allowed to return to Souths next year.

Well that we will disagree then because it was well known what was offered, it wasn’t hidden. Like I said they could have sorted it out with a phone call but instead the NRL took the ridiculous adversarial approach.

Not until we applied for compensation for Farah being disruptive. I'm ok if you disagree but I can understand why we were penalized.

What’s the difference two Souths players being medically retired them come back playing ??,

They weren't actually medically retired, but I do not believe that Burgess should be allowed to play for Souths next year.

Burgess was medically retired - he had chronic and long term shoulder injuries and they got around the rule of having to be a new injury by saying that he was being retire because of ongoing infection after surgery on his shoulder. And the NRL signed off on it. Sam was then going to receive his money after being offered a role with the club. And all of that is not rorting - yea right.

 

[JC99]

If JAC is coming he should sign a letter of intent so WT'S know how fair dinkum he is if not we should look elsewhere he would be good but do we want another Latrine episode if he won't commit lets move on a go hard for BURTON & STAINES

Toby Rudolf did that with warriors and didn’t sign with them. Doesn’t mean anything

 

[JC99]

No way would I want the club pulling out of the race for JAC, who else is available to sign currently? He’s ten times better than anyone on the open market and the only person worth spending big money on. We can still look at signing other guys while chasing JAC.

 

[TSupps05]

The longer this goes on the less likely we are going to get him


That’s just not true

It just allows the big clubs like Easts and Souths more time to 'medically retire' their older players and all of a sudden have space in the cap for JAC

 

[TrueTiger]

I dont care if JAC comes or not....the talk,the inside mail,the "I want him here" has all happened before...If WTs dont want to give up Noffo,fair enough,I couldnt stand the garbage we went through with LM,you know he is a done deal and all the crap that goes on as the season ends...
Jac was one of ours,he loved the club,poor management once again seen a quality player leave and become a superstar...Its what the WTs do...once all of you guys realise,then the penny will drop,we need our deadwood gone,some good money in the bank and then a real decent recruitment drive...Trying to find big money for one player who wants to play fullback but is a winger 'does not compute'...

 

[Spartan117]

So is his preferred club WT or Souths?

Lets be objective for sec...

for he same money where do we think JAC would wanna play

Souths with mates who have a better trajectory of success or the Tigers who are building for the umpteenth time.

We are a club on the rise but the improvement will come in 2022 after we free up some more $$$ and have that Maguire edge.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Madge isn't stupid enough to let Nofa go the storm. There's no trust in JAC to suggest he wouldn't use us for a year and pull out and go to souths when some cash becomes available. I want JAC, but not willing to loose Nofa for him. Like others have said, if a deal isn't done shortly after the end of season, we pull out and move on. I'm done with the rubbish of players using us.

Is JAC's release conditional to WTs?

 

[the_third]

Melbourne like for like us a ruse by someone. The wanted Talau - he is not like for like.

 

[the_third]

It’s all about salary

Wests Tigers-Addo-Carr reunion 'a long way off' as wantaway Storm star's Sydney return hits roadblock
WRITTEN BY ED CHISHOLM


They were seen as Josh-Addo-Carr's most likely destination, however the Wests Tigers' chances of landing the Storm star are fading rapidly due to a conflict over salary.
The Test and Origin winger will return home to Sydney next year after gaining a release from the final year of his contract on compassionate grounds with the Storm to be closer to family.

The Tigers' interest in Addo-Carr has been widely publicised, with Michael Maguire holding talks with the 25-year-old about a return to Concord, where he made his NRL debut and played 10 games before moving to Melbourne in 2017.

Part of the lure for Addo-Carr is the Tigers' willingness to offer him the fullback's jersey, however the two parties have now struck a roadblock over the Storm speedster's salary demands.

After being clear favourites for his signature, the Tigers are now unlikely to land Addo-Carr, Sydney Morning Herald's Andrew Webster reports.

"I don't think they'll get Addo-Carr," Webster told Channel Nine's 100% Footy.
"I've sniffed around this today. I don't think the money that he wants is anywhere near what the Tigers are prepared to pay."

Further stalling any Addo-Carr-Tigers reunion is Melbourne's unwillingness to budge on receiving a player in return.

Upon granting Addo-Carr's release earlier this year the club were firm in their demands for a 'like-for-like' talent to compensate the loss of Addo-Carr, with reports they proposed a swap deal with the Tigers involving tryscoring star David Nofoaluma.

However, Tigers coach Michael Maguire recently shot down any suggestions of Nofoaluma, who currently leads the try-scorers list with a round remaining, being part of any player swap deal with the Storm.

"There is no way in the world that Dave is leaving," Maguire said recently.
"He loves this club and you can see by the way he plays. I also really enjoy coaching Dave."
Webster understands that unless the Tigers agree to let Nofoaluma go, a deal with the Tigers for Addo-Carr won't happen.
"The only way the Storm will let him go for next year is if they get Nofoaluma," he said.
"Now Nofoaluma's management has not had any calls from either the Storm or the Tigers about a swap deal or anything. If it's going to happen, it's a long way off."

Addo-Carr's demands for bigger money alongside his desire to switch to fullback in 2021 has raised eyebrows, the La Perouse junior now a household name on the wing for both NSW and Australia.

Former Blues coach Phil Gould was one to question the move, raising concerns money was the main motive behind Addo-Carr's desired switch.

"Fullbacks get a lot of money, so if you're going to sell yourself, sell yourself as a fullback," he told Wide World of Sports' Final Whistle recently.

"I don't want to see him play fullback, he's a winger. I know he's had a desire to come to Sydney for some time and he would be a good pick-up.

"He's a try-scorer, he's a match-winner, he's a match-saver, he's an Origin-class player, he's a terrific footballer - but he's not a fullback."

It appears any deal for Addo-Carr will be put off until after the season, with Storm coach Craig Bellamy declaring after Sunday's win over the Cowboys the club don't want it as a distraction during the finals.

It means Addo-Carr's wishes for a return home to Sydney could drag out into the pre-season.

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[Jedi_Tiger]

Let's keep Nofo who has had one good year and knock back JAC a proven SOO and Australian winger ...God help this club

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Webster is wrong based on logic.the only wayJAC goes back to the storm and asked for a release to the tigers Is if a contact has been agreed to , if not yet signed . We know this because the storm management were talking about how the compensation we want to give isn’t good enough all last week .

The Storm CEO didn't mention tigers directly, he said JAC's 'preferred club'. The article then went on to mention souths first, then tigers.

So is his preferred club WT or Souths?

No Bellamy did in his press conference. After the ceo talked in riddles during the week .

 

[Cairnstigers]

By the looks of it, its time we moved on from Addo-Carr
Get Momo back
Chase a few other players looking for a start
Both Broncos and Warriors are having a clean out
Stgeorge and Bulldogs will follow
Panthers, Roosters are likely to struggle with the cap
There will be other players that become available
Let's not be held to ransom

 

[tigerap]

By the looks of it, its time we moved on from Addo-Carr
Get Momo back
Chase a few other players looking for a start
Both Broncos and Warriors are having a clean out
Stgeorge and Bulldogs will follow
Panthers, Roosters are likely to struggle with the cap
There will be other players that become available
Let's not be held to ransom

Agree.... sounds like there is too
Much gamesmanship at play... stay at the Storm JAC there is always Stains for half the cost

 

[ElleryHanley]

JAC is a legit current Origin / Kangaroo.

In our history, we have never been able to land a legit / current Origin player / current Kangaroo.

He will / would have made a massive difference and given us legit X factor.

These things are why we don't succeed. You have to get these deals done when they present themselves...

 

[JD Tiger]

JAC is a legit current Origin / Kangaroo.

In our history, we have never been able to land a legit / current Origin player / current Kangaroo.

He will / would have made a massive difference and given us legit X factor.

These things are why we don't succeed. You have to get these deals done when they present themselves...

This could be an absolutely HUGE offseason for us. We could land JAC for next year, which would be great. Then we could also land an even bigger name (think million dollar a year player) for 2022. No idea who, but we would have the cash, and hot off the back of signing JAC we would be on a roll.

 

[avocadoontoast]

By the looks of it, its time we moved on from Addo-Carr
Get Momo back
Chase a few other players looking for a start
Both Broncos and Warriors are having a clean out
Stgeorge and Bulldogs will follow
Panthers, Roosters are likely to struggle with the cap
There will be other players that become available
Let's not be held to ransom

Disagree completely. Addo-Carr is a current SOO and Australian representative player and would be the best player in our team. Momirovski does nothing but take up a valuable spot on the roster. Noone is going to become available that is of his quality.

The only way we're going to get better is by signing better players, and he's the best one available by a country mile.

 

[happy_tiger]

By the looks of it, its time we moved on from Addo-Carr
Get Momo back
Chase a few other players looking for a start
Both Broncos and Warriors are having a clean out
Stgeorge and Bulldogs will follow
Panthers, Roosters are likely to struggle with the cap
There will be other players that become available
Let's not be held to ransom

Disagree completely. Addo-Carr is a current SOO and Australian representative player and would be the best player in our team. Momirovski does nothing but take up a valuable spot on the roster. Noone is going to become available that is of his quality.

The only way we're going to get better is by signing better players, and he's the best one available by a country mile.

I'd still be pushing MBye ..but he wants to get back to Qld as far as I've heard

 

[ElleryHanley]

JAC is a legit current Origin / Kangaroo.

In our history, we have never been able to land a legit / current Origin player / current Kangaroo.

He will / would have made a massive difference and given us legit X factor.

These things are why we don't succeed. You have to get these deals done when they present themselves...

This could be an absolutely HUGE offseason for us. We could land JAC for next year, which would be great. Then we could also land an even bigger name (think million dollar a year player) for 2022. No idea who, but we would have the cash, and hot off the back of signing JAC we would be on a roll.

It is an enormous few months for the club. It may well shape our long term future.

Benji going (rightly imo) will cause a big drop off in casual fans and media. Next season, with the current roster, will likely be dire (no way the current crop of halves get us to the finals).

But...add in JAC and you have a star and tons of interest, kids have a new hero after Benji etc etc.

Add in the guys the Pom mentioned (Staines and Hetherington) and things start to look good. The club absolutely have to get these things done. Other clubs somehow manage to do these things. We have to also.