JAC

[Tim Sheens]

This is good news. We don’t have the cap space to take the chance on a converted fullback at 750k a year. Losing young players on peanuts like Talau who is a starter is a double blow as you can’t replace him for the same money.

If true I would be trying to get Nick Meaney hugely underrated player. Treated poorly at the Dogs he’s the best fullback at the club.

I. would like a current Kangaroo, SOO player and premiership winner. Keep your Meaney's and DWZ's at the Bulldogs.

Meaney can play and would be a better goal kicking option than anyone we have. Fox is a gun but he’s a winger if it’s huge money it’s a risk we can’t take and lose a young player. It’s all relative.

What, Joey Leilua is on what $500k? Paying JAC $750k is a bargain. He's three times the player Leilua will ever be.

How many wingers do the roosters, Storm pay 750k? Losing a player we want like Talau on $250k and having to pay 450k to replace him makes zero sense. This is the issue it’s not in isolation. You will then spend 1.1m on a centre and a winger taking a punt he’s a fullback.

It could work but it’s the type of wild punt we can’t afford. BJ, Reynolds, Packer contracts have no relevance to doing a deal for a new player.

I’d pay Fox the contract we proposed any day but it won’t happen that way. He will want big money whether he plays wing or fullback and the Storm want Nofa or Talau.

I've posted it way back, recruit JAC and Saab. Nofoaluma to Storm.

If you release Nofa it will kill the culture of the squad. Have to keep your own that perform strongly. We should learn from past mistakes.

The losing culture?

Any culture he’s not the reason we are losing. Look at the best teams they never let performing players leave if the dollars are reasonable you have to keep your players. If not the next time someone comes good they leave. Loyalty goes both ways. It won’t always work but letting Nofa leave would be stupid. He’s the heart and soul of the club atm.

I like Nofa and he had a good year but I’d be going to him and saying, here’s a new deal on the same money, with incentives if you play rep footy and finals. We need more from you in the big games. Sign it now or it’s off the table. We can’t be mucking around wasting our time with upgrades when nobody, including him, is earning one.

He’s early an upgrade no idea what he’s on but 450k 3 year extension I’d offer tomorrow. Probably less than he will get elsewhere but it should be the way for long term players.

My point is, If we can’t lock up guys like him and Aloiai on team friendly deals, we’ve got no hope. You need your supposed loyal guys to just sign on and play good footy, not squeeze us for every drop.

And the club should also offer what they are worth in a show of good faith.

 

[Cairnstigers]

If he does go to Dogs I would be curious as to why. We can seemingly offer him just as good money, maybe a little worse, but what’s swaying his decision? His past experiences at the club? Not a fan of Madge? Thinks our club is crap? We need to figure out why someone like him wouldn’t want to be here and fix it. The obvious answer is our results but problem is we can’t get results unless we sign better players ?

Money pure and simple.

Or

Bulldogs are selling him a bright future with the money they are prepared to spend to achieve premiership success. Their new sponsor is splashing cash.

We can sell the pics of a centre of excellence and juniors coming through. No instant success.will take time.

The word is Dogs have offered us DWZ heavily subsidised. Tigers won’t bite until Fox makes a call. Madge believes he can get back to a rep level fullback. It’s the smart play although he was bad last year.

Well he has been moved on from two clubs. If our club can't take the hint we deserve everything we get.

Surely we are not interested one bit in DWZ

Yes I cannot understand why any consideration would be given to him.

It’s the Adam douei situation all over again

Lol, exactly.

Adding DWZ will be going sideways. Just another player whos average in a couple of positions.

The only way I'd be happy taking DWZ off Dogs, is if they took JRey. That would be a deal I'd jump at.

If they're not keen, then there's a reason for that, and forget DWZ.

That would work for me

 

[tiga4eva]

This is good news. We don’t have the cap space to take the chance on a converted fullback at 750k a year. Losing young players on peanuts like Talau who is a starter is a double blow as you can’t replace him for the same money.

If true I would be trying to get Nick Meaney hugely underrated player. Treated poorly at the Dogs he’s the best fullback at the club.

I. would like a current Kangaroo, SOO player and premiership winner. Keep your Meaney's and DWZ's at the Bulldogs.

Meaney can play and would be a better goal kicking option than anyone we have. Fox is a gun but he’s a winger if it’s huge money it’s a risk we can’t take and lose a young player. It’s all relative.

What, Joey Leilua is on what $500k? Paying JAC $750k is a bargain. He's three times the player Leilua will ever be.

How many wingers do the roosters, Storm pay 750k? Losing a player we want like Talau on $250k and having to pay 450k to replace him makes zero sense. This is the issue it’s not in isolation. You will then spend 1.1m on a centre and a winger taking a punt he’s a fullback.

It could work but it’s the type of wild punt we can’t afford. BJ, Reynolds, Packer contracts have no relevance to doing a deal for a new player.

I’d pay Fox the contract we proposed any day but it won’t happen that way. He will want big money whether he plays wing or fullback and the Storm want Nofa or Talau.

I've posted it way back, recruit JAC and Saab. Nofoaluma to Storm.

If you release Nofa it will kill the culture of the squad. Have to keep your own that perform strongly. We should learn from past mistakes.

The losing culture?

Any culture he’s not the reason we are losing. Look at the best teams they never let performing players leave if the dollars are reasonable you have to keep your players. If not the next time someone comes good they leave. Loyalty goes both ways. It won’t always work but letting Nofa leave would be stupid. He’s the heart and soul of the club atm.

I like Nofa and he had a good year but I’d be going to him and saying, here’s a new deal on the same money, with incentives if you play rep footy and finals. We need more from you in the big games. Sign it now or it’s off the table. We can’t be mucking around wasting our time with upgrades when nobody, including him, is earning one.

He’s early an upgrade no idea what he’s on but 450k 3 year extension I’d offer tomorrow. Probably less than he will get elsewhere but it should be the way for long term players.

My point is, If we can’t lock up guys like him and Aloiai on team friendly deals, we’ve got no hope. You need your supposed loyal guys to just sign on and play good footy, not squeeze us for every drop.

Neither would want to squeeze the Club for every drop, but both deserve their market value. Loyalty goes both ways, I wouldn’t begrudge either a fair upgrade. If the Club hasn’t budgeted for a reasonable increase for these 2, we will probably lose one or both of them.

 

[BAGNF05]

This is good news. We don’t have the cap space to take the chance on a converted fullback at 750k a year. Losing young players on peanuts like Talau who is a starter is a double blow as you can’t replace him for the same money.

If true I would be trying to get Nick Meaney hugely underrated player. Treated poorly at the Dogs he’s the best fullback at the club.

I. would like a current Kangaroo, SOO player and premiership winner. Keep your Meaney's and DWZ's at the Bulldogs.

Meaney can play and would be a better goal kicking option than anyone we have. Fox is a gun but he’s a winger if it’s huge money it’s a risk we can’t take and lose a young player. It’s all relative.

What, Joey Leilua is on what $500k? Paying JAC $750k is a bargain. He's three times the player Leilua will ever be.

How many wingers do the roosters, Storm pay 750k? Losing a player we want like Talau on $250k and having to pay 450k to replace him makes zero sense. This is the issue it’s not in isolation. You will then spend 1.1m on a centre and a winger taking a punt he’s a fullback.

It could work but it’s the type of wild punt we can’t afford. BJ, Reynolds, Packer contracts have no relevance to doing a deal for a new player.

I’d pay Fox the contract we proposed any day but it won’t happen that way. He will want big money whether he plays wing or fullback and the Storm want Nofa or Talau.

I've posted it way back, recruit JAC and Saab. Nofoaluma to Storm.

If you release Nofa it will kill the culture of the squad. Have to keep your own that perform strongly. We should learn from past mistakes.

The losing culture?

Any culture he’s not the reason we are losing. Look at the best teams they never let performing players leave if the dollars are reasonable you have to keep your players. If not the next time someone comes good they leave. Loyalty goes both ways. It won’t always work but letting Nofa leave would be stupid. He’s the heart and soul of the club atm.

I like Nofa and he had a good year but I’d be going to him and saying, here’s a new deal on the same money, with incentives if you play rep footy and finals. We need more from you in the big games. Sign it now or it’s off the table. We can’t be mucking around wasting our time with upgrades when nobody, including him, is earning one.

He’s early an upgrade no idea what he’s on but 450k 3 year extension I’d offer tomorrow. Probably less than he will get elsewhere but it should be the way for long term players.

My point is, If we can’t lock up guys like him and Aloiai on team friendly deals, we’ve got no hope. You need your supposed loyal guys to just sign on and play good footy, not squeeze us for every drop.

And the club should also offer what they are worth in a show of good faith.

You are worth what somebody is willing to pay, and some clubs like it or not have much deeper pockets than us, if Nofa is being lauded by us for his love of Tigers he needs to play for a bit less at this club. Brady did it for years in the NFL, and look at his record.

 

[Tiger5150]

This is good news. We don’t have the cap space to take the chance on a converted fullback at 750k a year. Losing young players on peanuts like Talau who is a starter is a double blow as you can’t replace him for the same money.

If true I would be trying to get Nick Meaney hugely underrated player. Treated poorly at the Dogs he’s the best fullback at the club.

I. would like a current Kangaroo, SOO player and premiership winner. Keep your Meaney's and DWZ's at the Bulldogs.

Meaney can play and would be a better goal kicking option than anyone we have. Fox is a gun but he’s a winger if it’s huge money it’s a risk we can’t take and lose a young player. It’s all relative.

What, Joey Leilua is on what $500k? Paying JAC $750k is a bargain. He's three times the player Leilua will ever be.

That’s crazy . Especially if he can’t play fullback . THAT would be repeating past mistakes .

A current Kangaroo, SOO player and current premiership winner. His contract would be ***paid for by gate earnings***. JAC, Talau, Kepaoa, Kei, Doueihi, Brooks. That is an exciting group of players.

Seen this a few times, so I thought Id jump in. Tigers dont receive any extra money for gate receipts if we get bigger crowds at ANZ or Bankwest.

 

[jirskyr]

Far out. The media is doing all it can to try to sway JAC to sign with the Dogs. How about an article about how pathetic the Dogs are from the Board down to the 2nd last placed football team? At least this information is current, rather than citing our recruitment issues pre Madge and Hartigan. If you want to go back to the past then cite how useless Barrett was as a coach overseeing a culture of infighting. How he makes a great assistant coach ala Jason Taylor, but will never see success as a head coach due to his incompetence as a man manager.

“ THE FOXX FAVOURING BULLDOGS OVER TIGERS RETURN
The Bulldogs are the favourite to land the signature of wantaway Storm winger Josh Addo-Carr for next season and beyond.
The NSW and Kangaroos winger is desperate to return to Sydney for family reasons and wants to play fullback and James Hooper believes the Belmore club has the upper hand in the hunt for his services.
“It is out of Canterbury and the Tigers, but I think he is leaning towards joining Trent Barrett at the Bulldogs,” Hooper said on Triple M’s Origin Rumble.
“I think that Trent is considering him and looking at playing him in the fullback role.
“The Tigers certainly thought they were holding all the aces, but as it has transpired over the course of the last six weeks I think it is more leaning towards Josh going to Belmore.”
Wendell Sailor pointed out it was a cruel twist of irony for the Tigers, who let Addo-Carr go to join the Storm in 2016 where he went on to become a representative star and premiership winner.
“Do you remember when Josh Addo-Carr was at the Tigers and talking to other clubs and I said to then coach Jason Taylor are you disappointed about losing Josh Addo-Carr?” Sailor recalled. “And he said, no not really.”
“The Tigers don’t get me started with their recruitment and retention policy over the course of the last 10 years,” Hooper fumed.
“From James Tedesco to Ryan Papenhuyzen to Josh Addo-Carr. Mitchell Moses is at Parramatta now. Aaron Woods should never have left.
“It has just been one bad decision after another and a big part of that has been the constant revolving door around coaches.

bloody hell, talk about sticking the boot in

Where was the [Pooper alert]? That's all it is, Pooper's opinions again. The bloke loves putting the boot into Tigers, apparently supports Tigers though, would hate to be his mate.

Can't stand him on Foxtel, turn it off the instant his face appears on TV. Very very punchable face.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

This is good news. We don’t have the cap space to take the chance on a converted fullback at 750k a year. Losing young players on peanuts like Talau who is a starter is a double blow as you can’t replace him for the same money.

If true I would be trying to get Nick Meaney hugely underrated player. Treated poorly at the Dogs he’s the best fullback at the club.

I. would like a current Kangaroo, SOO player and premiership winner. Keep your Meaney's and DWZ's at the Bulldogs.

Meaney can play and would be a better goal kicking option than anyone we have. Fox is a gun but he’s a winger if it’s huge money it’s a risk we can’t take and lose a young player. It’s all relative.

What, Joey Leilua is on what $500k? Paying JAC $750k is a bargain. He's three times the player Leilua will ever be.

How many wingers do the roosters, Storm pay 750k? Losing a player we want like Talau on $250k and having to pay 450k to replace him makes zero sense. This is the issue it’s not in isolation. You will then spend 1.1m on a centre and a winger taking a punt he’s a fullback.

It could work but it’s the type of wild punt we can’t afford. BJ, Reynolds, Packer contracts have no relevance to doing a deal for a new player.

I’d pay Fox the contract we proposed any day but it won’t happen that way. He will want big money whether he plays wing or fullback and the Storm want Nofa or Talau.

Storm would only get Nofo or Talau for one year though. From 2022 JAC continues to be a Tiger and WT get Nofo or Talau back
Something shoukd have been worked out minths ago, WT thought they were sitting in a NSW SOO player in Nofo so were not going to trade to storm and it didn't happen. Talau should have been the trade for one year

 

[Tigers_Tale]

How come other clubs want a player in return to close a deal, whereas we are happy to give Reynolds and Packer away without a swap yet no one bites...:-(

Because no club wants them

 

[GNR4LIFE]

How come other clubs want a player in return to close a deal, whereas we are happy to give Reynolds and Packer away without a swap yet no one bites...:-(

Because no club wants them

Feel like he knew the answer but there was an element of denial.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

This is good news. We don’t have the cap space to take the chance on a converted fullback at 750k a year. Losing young players on peanuts like Talau who is a starter is a double blow as you can’t replace him for the same money.

If true I would be trying to get Nick Meaney hugely underrated player. Treated poorly at the Dogs he’s the best fullback at the club.

I. would like a current Kangaroo, SOO player and premiership winner. Keep your Meaney's and DWZ's at the Bulldogs.

Meaney can play and would be a better goal kicking option than anyone we have. Fox is a gun but he’s a winger if it’s huge money it’s a risk we can’t take and lose a young player. It’s all relative.

What, Joey Leilua is on what $500k? Paying JAC $750k is a bargain. He's three times the player Leilua will ever be.

How many wingers do the roosters, Storm pay 750k? Losing a player we want like Talau on $250k and having to pay 450k to replace him makes zero sense. This is the issue it’s not in isolation. You will then spend 1.1m on a centre and a winger taking a punt he’s a fullback.

It could work but it’s the type of wild punt we can’t afford. BJ, Reynolds, Packer contracts have no relevance to doing a deal for a new player.

I’d pay Fox the contract we proposed any day but it won’t happen that way. He will want big money whether he plays wing or fullback and the Storm want Nofa or Talau.

I've posted it way back, recruit JAC and Saab. Nofoaluma to Storm.

If you release Nofa it will kill the culture of the squad. Have to keep your own that perform strongly. We should learn from past mistakes.

How so? He's had a good year in attack, poor defensively. He's been on what $450k for how many. years? I don't believe he has been particularly good value for money. for WTs. I get it he is. a Campbelltown junior.

lol I tend to like a lot of what you say , but you’re off your head this time . If you’ve ever been in a team atmosphere you’ll know that releasing/ firing a beloved member is a sure fire way to ruin culture .
Not to mention he’s literally the winger of the year

 

[hsvjones]

So South think he wants to go there and wants it sorted pretty quick although Dogs are trying best to poach him on big money. But he is happy to stay at storm another year if he needs to to make it happen. Few things concern me on this -
1. how do South have the money for him or will he take Min wage (cough Cough) ..
2. Where do they fit him as they one or if not the best backlines already in the comp?
3. He would prefer to go back to Storm on around 450k instead of us who are offering like 700k..

If this is the case we have some massive problems with recruitment or something as he has stated a lot he wants to come home for family reason but would stay away another year for 300k LESS to avoid us... Gees I hope this is wrong as other players must be under the same belief :disappointed: :disappointed:

 

[Tim Sheens]

This is good news. We don’t have the cap space to take the chance on a converted fullback at 750k a year. Losing young players on peanuts like Talau who is a starter is a double blow as you can’t replace him for the same money.

If true I would be trying to get Nick Meaney hugely underrated player. Treated poorly at the Dogs he’s the best fullback at the club.

I. would like a current Kangaroo, SOO player and premiership winner. Keep your Meaney's and DWZ's at the Bulldogs.

Meaney can play and would be a better goal kicking option than anyone we have. Fox is a gun but he’s a winger if it’s huge money it’s a risk we can’t take and lose a young player. It’s all relative.

What, Joey Leilua is on what $500k? Paying JAC $750k is a bargain. He's three times the player Leilua will ever be.

How many wingers do the roosters, Storm pay 750k? Losing a player we want like Talau on $250k and having to pay 450k to replace him makes zero sense. This is the issue it’s not in isolation. You will then spend 1.1m on a centre and a winger taking a punt he’s a fullback.

It could work but it’s the type of wild punt we can’t afford. BJ, Reynolds, Packer contracts have no relevance to doing a deal for a new player.

I’d pay Fox the contract we proposed any day but it won’t happen that way. He will want big money whether he plays wing or fullback and the Storm want Nofa or Talau.

I've posted it way back, recruit JAC and Saab. Nofoaluma to Storm.

If you release Nofa it will kill the culture of the squad. Have to keep your own that perform strongly. We should learn from past mistakes.

The losing culture?

Any culture he’s not the reason we are losing. Look at the best teams they never let performing players leave if the dollars are reasonable you have to keep your players. If not the next time someone comes good they leave. Loyalty goes both ways. It won’t always work but letting Nofa leave would be stupid. He’s the heart and soul of the club atm.

I like Nofa and he had a good year but I’d be going to him and saying, here’s a new deal on the same money, with incentives if you play rep footy and finals. We need more from you in the big games. Sign it now or it’s off the table. We can’t be mucking around wasting our time with upgrades when nobody, including him, is earning one.

He’s early an upgrade no idea what he’s on but 450k 3 year extension I’d offer tomorrow. Probably less than he will get elsewhere but it should be the way for long term players.

My point is, If we can’t lock up guys like him and Aloiai on team friendly deals, we’ve got no hope. You need your supposed loyal guys to just sign on and play good footy, not squeeze us for every drop.

And the club should also offer what they are worth in a show of good faith.

You are worth what somebody is willing to pay, and some clubs like it or not have much deeper pockets than us, if Nofa is being lauded by us for his love of Tigers he needs to play for a bit less at this club. Brady did it for years in the NFL, and look at his record.

Not a fair comparison for mine, as huge associated endorsements for Brady.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

someone said earlier you offer nofo 450k for 3 years no upgrade but bonuses if he playes origin or we make semi finals etc

 

[JC99]

Okay it’s November has he signed yet

 

[PrattenParkMagpie]

This is good news. We don’t have the cap space to take the chance on a converted fullback at 750k a year. Losing young players on peanuts like Talau who is a starter is a double blow as you can’t replace him for the same money.

If true I would be trying to get Nick Meaney hugely underrated player. Treated poorly at the Dogs he’s the best fullback at the club.

I. would like a current Kangaroo, SOO player and premiership winner. Keep your Meaney's and DWZ's at the Bulldogs.

Meaney can play and would be a better goal kicking option than anyone we have. Fox is a gun but he’s a winger if it’s huge money it’s a risk we can’t take and lose a young player. It’s all relative.

What, Joey Leilua is on what $500k? Paying JAC $750k is a bargain. He's three times the player Leilua will ever be.

How many wingers do the roosters, Storm pay 750k? Losing a player we want like Talau on $250k and having to pay 450k to replace him makes zero sense. This is the issue it’s not in isolation. You will then spend 1.1m on a centre and a winger taking a punt he’s a fullback.

It could work but it’s the type of wild punt we can’t afford. BJ, Reynolds, Packer contracts have no relevance to doing a deal for a new player.

I’d pay Fox the contract we proposed any day but it won’t happen that way. He will want big money whether he plays wing or fullback and the Storm want Nofa or Talau.

Storm would only get Nofo or Talau for one year though. From 2022 JAC continues to be a Tiger and WT get Nofo or Talau back
Something shoukd have been worked out minths ago, WT thought they were sitting in a NSW SOO player in Nofo so were not going to trade to storm and it didn't happen. Talau should have been the trade for one year

Where did you get the idea they wanted someone just for a year, the Storm want a player swap not a 1 year loan deal.

 

[hobbo1]

Okay it’s November has he signed yet

Pascoe failed to bring a pen

 

[OldMagpie]

1st November and nothings happened. I knew it !

 

[JC99]

Okay it’s November has he signed yet

Pascoe failed to bring a pen

His pen is on holidays

 

[mike]

JAC watch: Day 72

1st November 2020

 

[the_third]

And I thought I didn’t sleep much Mike