the enforcer.
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Geez we would see different opinions of this fella if he was in a good quality team . I myself pre judged him, but he has undeniable talent.
OFFICIAL Jahream Bula #269
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So you don’t believe it’s the fullbacks job to make multiple tackle busts each game and create line breaks and/or try scoring opportunities for his team each game ?
One line break against Tino when playing the Titans last season doesn’t give a highly paid NRL player a free pass not to make hardly any tackle busts or line breaks the following season.
If you cannot see it, if Benji cannot see it and if the rest of our fans cannot see it, then we will just have to be happy to continue finishing in the bottom 2 each season.
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BAGNF05
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That’s the key thing mate, you have to judge Wests Tigers players on moments, not necessarily stats like tries, metres or line breaks, our team simply don’t generate enough good stats as a whole.
It’s also the reason our better players attract interest from the good judges at other clubs and normally perform up to standard when they move on. They see potential.
I couldn’t have Bula in the top 10 fullbacks in the game right now, but at a better club, he’s probably pushing top 5 based on his toughness and reliability.
BAGNF05
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You’re watching Reece Walsh play behind the best forwards in the comp and crediting him for his better moments.
Did you see him in origin two in a losing side?
So you reckon our forward pack makes it impossible for our backline tn shine each and every week ?
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BAGNF05
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No, I reckon all 13 as a unit aren’t good enough. A lot of momentum these days is created by classy wingers and centres, which we lack.
In a team sport, it’s not advised to judge individuals too harshly without considering the team.
king_sirro
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Hahaha...you just said if Benji can't see it and if the rest if the fans can't see it we will continue to finish bottom 2. So your right and everyone else is wrong?....that's one of the most arrogant posts I've seen
I agree that all 17 players have to contribute and the centres and wingers need to heavily contribute in metres made out of the danger zone.
Although this is definitely an area that needs improvement, there has been plenty of occasions where this has been done well.
The spine is obviously the teams x-factor and need to come up plays to create line breaks and try scoring opportunities and this is where we fail miserably despite having Api who many believe is one of the best attacking 9’s in the NRL.
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king_sirro
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I stand corrected, this is now the most arrogant post I've seen.
The argument is not whether Jareem Bula is a good footballer. It’s if his best fit for us is at Fullback.
Vicious and Balmain ball make good points and I think it was McCarry that stated the attributes that a fullback should have to contribute to a side attack or defence.
At the moment he would be at the bottom of most of those categories.
But you can see that his stature, fitness and leaping ability could be suited to covering the field from the back..
If the modern day centre/winger is your Lomax, Manu, Berry, Cobbo build then Bula is probably 5kgs off making that transition.
He seems most similar to the Hammer, Sloan and Kennedy with only Sloan having a slighter frame then him.
In my view if we to add one of those all rounder type fullbacks either by recruiting or from our pathways then Bula could find a long term home in the centres and make an excellent fist of it as well.
Vicious and Balmain ball make good points and I think it was McCarry that stated the attributes that a fullback should have to contribute to a side attack or defence.
At the moment he would be at the bottom of most of those categories.
But you can see that his stature, fitness and leaping ability could be suited to covering the field from the back..
If the modern day centre/winger is your Lomax, Manu, Berry, Cobbo build then Bula is probably 5kgs off making that transition.
He seems most similar to the Hammer, Sloan and Kennedy with only Sloan having a slighter frame then him.
In my view if we to add one of those all rounder type fullbacks either by recruiting or from our pathways then Bula could find a long term home in the centres and make an excellent fist of it as well.
Red88_Tiger
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I’d expect him to be up there in run metres and number of runs purely because as a losing team he’s bound to get more kick returns.
BAGNF05
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The spine gives the team structure, most teams have x-factor players out wide who can create points when there is no structure. Jahream has shown an ability to do that given limited opportunities. The challenge for Tigers recruitment is to find 3 or 4 other players who the defence needs to worry about. Luai and Turuva are a good start but I think we need Dom Young type winger also. When teams have to defend multiple threats, players like Jahream will have much more time and space, and you can't tell me you haven't liked seeing him in space.
When he accelerates and attacks the space it is great to watch, why is that only happening once or twice per game ?
The try where he combined with Jayden Sullivan against the Dragons is what should be happening much more often as should the wrap around play where he has been creating line break opportunities for Doueihi and Faatape over the last couple of games.
If this intent was there from kick off each and every week, we would not be having this argument and Wests Tigers would be a lot higher up the competition ladder.
Buttface
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Some of what you’re say has some merit but to say he can’t be developed, might still be premature, but yeah he needs some work. I said earlier in this thread that when the team starts doing the things that take no talent the players with talent will shine.
On Daine, he maybe a better attacking player but his D, and FB positioning was pretty average. I personally would prefer to be trying to develop Bula than Daine.
BAGNF05
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Go back and watch the try he scored against GC last year against a retreating D line. You can't simply break down a set defensive line in the NRL, the team needs to create the space by quick PTB's and offloads etc etc.
It's frustrating as hell watching us attack the line because we are so one dimensional, they slow down our ruck and then make sure Jahream is marked well. We need more threats.
The try he scored against the Sharks earlier this season was similar.
That is all good, but as I’ve stated doing that once or twice per game us not good enough.
BAGNF05
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And it will happen with better players around him because defenders have more to be concerned about. The form of our centres and wingers this year is much more of a concern than Jahream.
king_sirro
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Doing that once or twice a game isn't good enough? You can't be serious. If he ever got to thw point that he did that every game it would be amazing. No fullback does it every game. You have lost the plot with your campaign against this kid.
balmain boy
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It's not to say that other players aren't also playing below their bests but the facts are still clear.
Bula has 2 line breaks and 2 try assists this season from 15 games. I challenge you to find any other fullback in the comp with stats that come close to that.
Theoretically he can do it, but he's not doing it. Second year syndrome? Lack of confidence? Poor coaching? Low quality teammates in backline. Who knows. For me it's his lack of effort which is most disheartening.
At fullback he regularly receives broken play, open for him to potentially exploit a chink in the defence, he has more opportunity to do this than any other player we have. Yet he rarely creates an attacking opportunity for us.
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